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Hi all!

 

I have two friend in Spain (an American citizen and a Spanish citizen) that are "pareja de hecho" or common law married in Spain. I was wondering if they could apply for an IR-1 or CR-1 visa or the K-1 would be the better option for them. 

Thank you in advance!

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As far as I know, there has to be a legal marriage ceremony.  I know in Canada, where common-law marriage is also a thing, it isn’t always recognized for things requiring a legal marriage. 

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1 minute ago, Mary&Rafa said:

Hi all!

 

I have two friend in Spain (an American citizen and a Spanish citizen) that are "pareja de hecho" or common law married in Spain. I was wondering if they could apply for an IR-1 or CR-1 visa or the K-1 would be the better option for them. 

Thank you in advance!

I would get a legal, documented marriage in Spain, then file for a CR-1/IR-1 if I had a choice between the 2.  There aren't many advantages to a K-1 if the couple is already living together outside the US.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

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______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Just now, Cryssiekins said:

As far as I know, there has to be a legal marriage ceremony.  I know in Canada, where common-law marriage is also a thing, it isn’t always recognized for things requiring a legal marriage. 

 

Just now, missileman said:

I would get a legal, documented marriage in Spain, then file for a CR-1/IR-1 if I had a choice between the 2.  There aren't many advantages to a K-1 if the couple is already living together outside the US.

What if (and this is hypothetical) they do not want to have an actual marriage, just remain with the common law marriage?

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1 minute ago, Mary&Rafa said:

 

What if (and this is hypothetical) they do not want to have an actual marriage, just remain with the common law marriage?

I think they would probably find themselves in the position of being too married for a K-1 and not married enough for a CR1/IR1.    My advice would be to get a documented marriage certificate, and proceed with a spousal visa.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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1 minute ago, little immigrant said:

Then the US citizen cannot sponsor the foreign spouse. 

they would need to file for K-1 then right?

1 minute ago, missileman said:

I think they would probably find themselves in the position of being too married for a K-1 and not married enough for a CR1/IR1.    My advice would be to get a documented marriage certificate, and proceed with a spousal visa.

I see that's quite the pickle they would get themselves into...

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Just now, Mary&Rafa said:

they would need to file for K-1 then right?

Not necissarily.  If the Consulate Officer thinks they are married by local custom, then it make a denial very likely.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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4 minutes ago, Eugenia2017 said:

Hola matrimonio de hecho no son válidos . Se necesita matrimonio civil en España o Usa para aplicar a una visa de cónyuge para la CR1 para visa de prometido K1 les dan  90 días para q se casen cuando entran a USA

Hola,

 

The if they are pareja de hecho they could apply for K-1 right?

2 minutes ago, missileman said:

Not necissarily.  If the Consulate Officer thinks they are married by local custom, then it make a denial very likely.

Hmmmm. They have lots to think about. 

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2 minutes ago, Eugenia2017 said:

Hola matrimonio de hecho no son válidos . Se necesita matrimonio civil en España o Usa para aplicar a una visa de cónyuge para la CR1 para visa de prometido K1 les dan  90 días para q se casen cuando entran a USA

Please use English unless you are in the regional sub-forums...Thanks.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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2 minutes ago, Mary&Rafa said:

they would need to file for K-1 then right?

I see that's quite the pickle they would get themselves into...

Exactly as stated above. Countries that recognize common law marriage only do so for limited things.  I would expect the US (which is also common law) may recognize the union for things like health insurance benefits (between 2 citizens) but for something like immigration, it would need to be a legal marriage.  Not a big fancy wedding either, just the paper :)

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1 minute ago, Eugenia2017 said:

Si la visa fiancé es para los q estás comprometidos y se conocen mínimo 2 años y cuando la aprueban y entran a Usa tienen 90 días para casarse 

Then it wouldn't really work for "pareja de hecho"

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1 minute ago, Eugenia2017 said:

Si la visa fiancé es para los q estás comprometidos y se conocen mínimo 2 años y cuando la aprueban y entran a Usa tienen 90 días para casarse 

Please use English in upper forums....

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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