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I realized the CR greencard was expiring in 2 weeks after I bought international tickets! hastily sent in i751 same day, now im worried

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Wife's gc is expiring on the 14th of april and the day she was flying out is the day we both found out. I am a US citizen and had no clue this thing is not renewable like a driver's license. 

Her return date is after the expiry and we're both anxious about what's going to happen. Many weddings and celebrations are going to be missed and thousands of dollars wasted if she returns immediately. she wanted to spend time with her mom and dad after so long.

 

We filed out the 751 the same day and signed it but I sent out the package the next day with just the following:

 

copies of her green card

copies of her state id to prove address 

one tax return transcript we have filed jointly in 2017

our daughter's birth certificate 

daughters passport

wife's health insurance card

my passport for name verification - thats it. 

 

THATS IT. I didnt send anything else. i didnt know if it was going to be a big deal. We dont have joint bank account but I have given her a joint credit card. I so nervous!!

 

what should I do? Can she go to the embassy overseas and get some kind of stamp? what if i get an RFE for bank account? she cant open on since shes not here. man im worried. i wish i sent a single picture

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1 minute ago, longdistance12345 said:

We filed out the 751 the same day and signed it but I sent out the package the next day with just the following:

 

copies of her green card

copies of her state id to prove address 

one tax return transcript we have filed jointly in 2017

our daughter's birth certificate 

daughters passport

wife's health insurance card 

my passport for name verification - thats it.  

 

THATS IT. I didnt send anything else. i didnt know if it was going to be a big deal. We dont have joint bank account but I have given her a joint credit card. I so nervous!!

Well, there's a high chance they will issue an RFE basically asking for more evidence if they aren't convinced.

 

Wait, did you send the $680 filing fee? If not, they will probably send the entire thing back to you... :unsure:

 


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 🇷🇺  CR-1 via DCF in Moscow* (2016-2017) 🇺🇸 Info about my DCF experience here and here.

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26-Jul-2016: Married abroad (USC + Russian husband) 👩‍❤️‍👨
21-Dec-2016: I-130 filed at Moscow USCIS field office*
29-Dec-2016: I-130 approved! Yay! 🎊 

17-Jan-2017: Case number received

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview at Embassy - approved! 🎉

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX 🛩️

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail 📬

31-Jul-2017: SSN arrived via mail, hurrah!

 

*NOTE: The USCIS Field Office in Moscow is now CLOSED.

 

I-90 GC Replacment (for Erroneous GC)

22-Jul-2017: GC arrives in the mail – error in middle name 😕

01-Aug-2017: Sent in I-90 online via website

05-Aug-2017: Biometrics scheduled

23-Aug-2017: Biometrics done @ USCIS office; told to keep GC!

16-Jul-2018: RFE for original card!! 🤬

31-Jul-2018: USCIS Appointment at local field office..

22-Aug-2018: Mailed GC back to USCIS in response to RFE

29-Aug-2018: GC received by USCIS

17-Sept-2018: Received CORRECTED GC in the mail! Finally!! 😂

 

📑 I-751 Removal of Conditions - NBC (Apr-2019-???) 📝 MSC I-751 filers: Track your case here!

Spoiler

28-Jun-2019: Conditional GC expires

30-Mar-2019: Eligible to apply for ROC

01-Apr-2019: ROC in the mail to Phoenix AZ lockbox! 📫

03-Apr-2019: ROC packet delivered to lockbox

09-Apr-2019: USCIS cashed check

09-Apr-2019: Case number received via text - MSC 📲

12-Apr-2019: Extension letter arrives via mail 

??-???-2019: TBA...

Mar-30-2020: N-400 early filing window opens! 🇺🇸

 

 

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15 minutes ago, longdistance12345 said:

Wife's gc is expiring on the 14th of april and the day she was flying out is the day we both found out. I am a US citizen and had no clue this thing is not renewable like a driver's license. 

Her return date is after the expiry and we're both anxious about what's going to happen. Many weddings and celebrations are going to be missed and thousands of dollars wasted if she returns immediately. she wanted to spend time with her mom and dad after so long.

 

We filed out the 751 the same day and signed it but I sent out the package the next day with just the following:

 

copies of her green card

copies of her state id to prove address 

one tax return transcript we have filed jointly in 2017

our daughter's birth certificate 

daughters passport

wife's health insurance card

my passport for name verification - thats it. 

 

THATS IT. I didnt send anything else. i didnt know if it was going to be a big deal. We dont have joint bank account but I have given her a joint credit card. I so nervous!!

 

what should I do? Can she go to the embassy overseas and get some kind of stamp? what if i get an RFE for bank account? she cant open on since shes not here. man im worried. i wish i sent a single picture

Did you submit the fees?  Anyway, based on what you provided, it seems rather short on documentation requirements.  I suggest planning on getting her back to the USA BEFORE her Green Card expiration.  Otherwise, she will likely not even be able to board the aircraft for the return flight and you may not see her for quite a while.


Removal of Conditions

12/29/2018  Sent ROC package to Dallas PO Box by USPS Priority Mail. 

12/30/2018  ROC package arrived & ready for pickup at Dallas PO Box at 7pm.

12/31/2018  USCIS received date

01/03/2019  Credit card transaction alert received at 7:10am authorizing charge of $680 to USCIS Dallas Lockbox

01/03/2019  Received text message from USCIS stating original receipt to follow in mail and a receipt number starting with MSC.

01/07/2019  Added receipt number to myaccount.uscis.dhs.gov/ and it shows case received and nothing to do at this time.

01/11/2019  Received US Postal Service Informed Delivery email at 8:20am showing incoming letter from USCIS.

01/11/2019  Received biometric appointment in the mail.  Biometric appointment is for 01/22/2019

01/14/2019  Completed walk-in biometric at Tampa Field Office.

01/29/2019  Filed an online e-request due to no I-797 receipt mailed to date.  Received automated email to expect a reply by Feb. 20.

01/30/2019  E-request response received.  They will send a duplicate receipt and we should receive it within 30 days.

02/04/2019  Informed delivery show an incoming letter form USCIS.  Won't know if it is a copy or original extension letter as we are out of country for about another 2 weeks and mail is on hold until then.

02/19/2019  USPS delivered our "hold mail" today.  Received an original 18 month extension letter.   Notice date is 01/30/2019.

04/13/2019  Checked case status online.  Case is ready to be scheduled for an interview as of 04/04/2019

 

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4 minutes ago, longdistance12345 said:

Wife's gc is expiring on the 14th of april and the day she was flying out is the day we both found out. I am a US citizen and had no clue this thing is not renewable like a driver's license. 

Her return date is after the expiry and we're both anxious about what's going to happen. Many weddings and celebrations are going to be missed and thousands of dollars wasted if she returns immediately. she wanted to spend time with her mom and dad after so long.

 

We filed out the 751 the same day and signed it but I sent out the package the next day with just the following:

 

copies of her green card

copies of her state id to prove address 

one tax return transcript we have filed jointly in 2017

our daughter's birth certificate 

daughters passport

wife's health insurance card

my passport for name verification - thats it. 

 

THATS IT. I didnt send anything else. i didnt know if it was going to be a big deal. We dont have joint bank account but I have given her a joint credit card. I so nervous!!

 

what should I do? Can she go to the embassy overseas and get some kind of stamp? what if i get an RFE for bank account? she cant open on since shes not here. man im worried. i wish i sent a single picture

She should NOT leave the US until she has the letter from USCIS confirming they have received the Removal  of Conditions application and also the Extension of the Green Card letter . Overseas consulates cannot assist with expired temporary green card.  Without the confirmation of the 751 application and the extension letter , she does not have legal status to stay in or return to the US..    Read into that ... she remains overseas and you file for another immigration visa. 12 months +, all fees again ++ 

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1 minute ago, longdistance12345 said:

yeah i sent the check but i thought the child would be a strong case for a bonafide marriage. its hard travelling 20+ hours on a plane and now  she has to come back within 10 days

A  child only means two people had sex, it is not a strong case for a bonafide marriage..  When she gets back, you need to do joint financial accounts.  Really, if something happened to you, how would your wife be able to financially take care of herself and a child.  


Removal of Conditions

12/29/2018  Sent ROC package to Dallas PO Box by USPS Priority Mail. 

12/30/2018  ROC package arrived & ready for pickup at Dallas PO Box at 7pm.

12/31/2018  USCIS received date

01/03/2019  Credit card transaction alert received at 7:10am authorizing charge of $680 to USCIS Dallas Lockbox

01/03/2019  Received text message from USCIS stating original receipt to follow in mail and a receipt number starting with MSC.

01/07/2019  Added receipt number to myaccount.uscis.dhs.gov/ and it shows case received and nothing to do at this time.

01/11/2019  Received US Postal Service Informed Delivery email at 8:20am showing incoming letter from USCIS.

01/11/2019  Received biometric appointment in the mail.  Biometric appointment is for 01/22/2019

01/14/2019  Completed walk-in biometric at Tampa Field Office.

01/29/2019  Filed an online e-request due to no I-797 receipt mailed to date.  Received automated email to expect a reply by Feb. 20.

01/30/2019  E-request response received.  They will send a duplicate receipt and we should receive it within 30 days.

02/04/2019  Informed delivery show an incoming letter form USCIS.  Won't know if it is a copy or original extension letter as we are out of country for about another 2 weeks and mail is on hold until then.

02/19/2019  USPS delivered our "hold mail" today.  Received an original 18 month extension letter.   Notice date is 01/30/2019.

04/13/2019  Checked case status online.  Case is ready to be scheduled for an interview as of 04/04/2019

 

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Co-mingling of finances is something we never cared for. I pay for all the bills and she takes classes and is a home maker for now. I guess I should take care of this asap. 

 

if it wasnt for the weddings and her trip plans, we would have completely missed the whole thing. silver lining i suppose

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3 minutes ago, longdistance12345 said:

yeah i sent the check but i thought the child would be a strong case for a bonafide marriage. its hard travelling 20+ hours on a plane and now  she has to come back within 10 days

It’s unfortunately the impact of not filing the ROC earlier in the 90 day window. Time to do what has to be  done... 

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The plastic green card expires---does not mean her LPR status expires....

 

That being said, safer for her to fly back beforehand as some airlines will not allow her to board with an expired green card.

 

EDITED TO ADD:  Just so you're aware, if/after the ROC is approved she will then receive a 10-year green card.  She can continue to renew the GC by filing a i-90 form, if she wishes to remain a LPR, or file the N400 (after 3 years from the issue date of the initial GC minus 90 days) if she wishes to apply for citizenship.

Edited by Going through

Applied for Naturalization based on 5-year Residency - 96 Days To Complete Citizenship!

July 14, 2017 (Day 00) -  Submitted N400 Application, filed online

July 21, 2017 (Day 07) -  NOA Receipt received in the mail

July 22, 2017 (Day 08) - Biometrics appointment scheduled online, letter mailed out

July 25, 2017 (Day 11) - Biometrics PDF posted online

July 28, 2017 (Day 14) - Biometrics letter received in the mail, appointment for 08/08/17

Aug 08, 2017 (Day 24) - Biometrics (fingerprinting) completed

Aug 14, 2017 (Day 30) - Online EGOV status shows "Interview Scheduled, will mail appointment letter"

Aug 16, 2017 (Day 32) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Interview Scheduled, read the letter we mailed you..."

Aug 17, 2017 (Day 33) - Interview Appointment Letter PDF posted online---GOT AN INTERVIEW DATE!!!

Aug 21, 2017 (Day 37) - Interview Appointment Letter received in the mail, appointment for 09/27/17

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Naturalization Interview--- read my experience here

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Oath Ceremony Notice mailed"

Sep. 28, 2017 (Day 75) - Oath Ceremony Letter PDF posted online--Ceremony for 10/19/17

Oct. 02, 2017 (Day 79) -  Oath Ceremony Letter received in the mail

Oct. 19, 2017 (Day 96) -  Oath Ceremony-- read my experience here

 

 

 

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if she goes to the embassy and asks for a any stamp or extension will it be possible? I feel so sorry for her that she's unable to relax as planned :( I was supposed to meet up with her in May and we'd be coming back together. that would be possible if I get the 797 NOA

 

I found a ticket and reserved it. Will buy within 24 hours but i am actively looking for any solution that will help. I might call USCIS and see what they say. I heard they dont send RFE twice and causes a major problem. dont want that to happen

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3 minutes ago, longdistance12345 said:

if she goes to the embassy and asks for a any stamp or extension will it be possible?

From the USCIS website about travel document/boarding foil:

 

If you are an LPR with an expired Green Card or are traveling with a child under 2 years old, please read the Special Instructions section to determine whether you need to file Form I 131A.

 

 

If you are an LPR with an expired Green Card

If you have an expired Green Card, you may not need to file Form I-131A. Although regulations generally require an LPR to travel with a valid Green Card, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) policy permits a transportation carrier bound for the United States to allow you to board without carrier documentation if you:

  • Are an LPR with an expired Green Card that was issued with a 10-year expiration date (and you have been outside of the U.S. for less than a year);
  • Are an LPR who has an expired Green Card with a two-year expiration date and you also have Form I-797, Notice of Action, showing that you filed a Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence, or Form I-829, Petition by Entrepreneur to Remove Conditions on Permanent Resident Status (and you have been outside of the U.S. for less than a year). The Notice of Action extends the validity of the card for a specified length of time, generally one year; or
  • Are an LPR military service member or employee of the U.S. government (or an LPR dependent of such an individual) on official U.S. military or government travel orders, regardless of time outside of the United States.

Check with your airline or transportation carrier before you file Form I-131A because, in some situations, they may still refuse to let you board even if you are in one of the categories above. In that case, you will need to file a Form I-131A.

 

https://www.uscis.gov/i-131a 


Applied for Naturalization based on 5-year Residency - 96 Days To Complete Citizenship!

July 14, 2017 (Day 00) -  Submitted N400 Application, filed online

July 21, 2017 (Day 07) -  NOA Receipt received in the mail

July 22, 2017 (Day 08) - Biometrics appointment scheduled online, letter mailed out

July 25, 2017 (Day 11) - Biometrics PDF posted online

July 28, 2017 (Day 14) - Biometrics letter received in the mail, appointment for 08/08/17

Aug 08, 2017 (Day 24) - Biometrics (fingerprinting) completed

Aug 14, 2017 (Day 30) - Online EGOV status shows "Interview Scheduled, will mail appointment letter"

Aug 16, 2017 (Day 32) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Interview Scheduled, read the letter we mailed you..."

Aug 17, 2017 (Day 33) - Interview Appointment Letter PDF posted online---GOT AN INTERVIEW DATE!!!

Aug 21, 2017 (Day 37) - Interview Appointment Letter received in the mail, appointment for 09/27/17

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Naturalization Interview--- read my experience here

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Oath Ceremony Notice mailed"

Sep. 28, 2017 (Day 75) - Oath Ceremony Letter PDF posted online--Ceremony for 10/19/17

Oct. 02, 2017 (Day 79) -  Oath Ceremony Letter received in the mail

Oct. 19, 2017 (Day 96) -  Oath Ceremony-- read my experience here

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Going through said:

If you are an LPR with an expired Green Card

If you have an expired Green Card, you may not need to file Form I-131A. Although regulations generally require an LPR to travel with a valid Green Card, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) policy permits a transportation carrier bound for the United States to allow you to board without carrier documentation if you:

Filing fee: $575. Yikes...might be cheaper for the OP to just buy a return ticket or book and earlier flight!

 

Thanks for correcting me @Going through, she won't lose status but the thing is that she wasn't technically allowed to travel without the proper extension documents. Conditional GC's are conditional for a reason and they come with a whole set of rules and regulations that CBP will expect to be followed. Even in the best case scenario if she was allowed back in with the expired card and no letter/stamp/travel foil, CBP most likely will not be nice to her about why she didn't follow the rules she agreed to when given a conditional GC.

Edited by millefleur

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 🇷🇺  CR-1 via DCF in Moscow* (2016-2017) 🇺🇸 Info about my DCF experience here and here.

Spoiler

26-Jul-2016: Married abroad (USC + Russian husband) 👩‍❤️‍👨
21-Dec-2016: I-130 filed at Moscow USCIS field office*
29-Dec-2016: I-130 approved! Yay! 🎊 

17-Jan-2017: Case number received

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview at Embassy - approved! 🎉

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX 🛩️

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail 📬

31-Jul-2017: SSN arrived via mail, hurrah!

 

*NOTE: The USCIS Field Office in Moscow is now CLOSED.

 

I-90 GC Replacment (for Erroneous GC)

22-Jul-2017: GC arrives in the mail – error in middle name 😕

01-Aug-2017: Sent in I-90 online via website

05-Aug-2017: Biometrics scheduled

23-Aug-2017: Biometrics done @ USCIS office; told to keep GC!

16-Jul-2018: RFE for original card!! 🤬

31-Jul-2018: USCIS Appointment at local field office..

22-Aug-2018: Mailed GC back to USCIS in response to RFE

29-Aug-2018: GC received by USCIS

17-Sept-2018: Received CORRECTED GC in the mail! Finally!! 😂

 

📑 I-751 Removal of Conditions - NBC (Apr-2019-???) 📝 MSC I-751 filers: Track your case here!

Spoiler

28-Jun-2019: Conditional GC expires

30-Mar-2019: Eligible to apply for ROC

01-Apr-2019: ROC in the mail to Phoenix AZ lockbox! 📫

03-Apr-2019: ROC packet delivered to lockbox

09-Apr-2019: USCIS cashed check

09-Apr-2019: Case number received via text - MSC 📲

12-Apr-2019: Extension letter arrives via mail 

??-???-2019: TBA...

Mar-30-2020: N-400 early filing window opens! 🇺🇸

 

 

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14 minutes ago, longdistance12345 said:

if she goes to the embassy and asks for a any stamp or extension will it be possible? I feel so sorry for her that she's unable to relax as planned :( I was supposed to meet up with her in May and we'd be coming back together. that would be possible if I get the 797 NOA

 

I found a ticket and reserved it. Will buy within 24 hours but i am actively looking for any solution that will help. I might call USCIS and see what they say. I heard they dont send RFE twice and causes a major problem. dont want that to happen

Temporary Permanemt residency cannot be extended apart from the application to Remove Conditions. 

 

13 minutes ago, millefleur said:

Filing fee: $575. Yikes...might be cheaper for the OP to just buy a return ticket or book and earlier flight!

 

Thanks for correcting me @Going through, she won't lose status but the thing is that she wasn't technically allowed to travel without the proper extension documents. Conditional GC's are conditional for a reason and they come with a whole set of rules and regulations that CBP will expect to be followed. 

 

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