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I-693 help! Being told I need another physical exam by Civil Surgeons

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Hi folks,

 

I am currently doing my AOS and need to get my I-693 filled out. I had the medical done in the UK complete with vaccinations less than a year ago, as far as I was aware, I would not need another physical exam as my UK one is valid for a year and that I would just need to show my vaccination report at a designated doctors when I got here. All the Civil Surgeons I have contacted have all said I would need to have all the tests done to get the I-693 signed off. This cannot be correct surely because why would you have the medical done in the UK beforehand?

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Unfortunately, many US based civil surgeons require another physical before they will provide a vaccination record.  You can shop around your area or bite the bullet depending on your circumstances.  There is a pinned thread at the top of the AOS section that may be helpful, or can click on the Civivl Surgeon tag and you will see many similar threads.

 

Good Luck!

 

 


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If the DS-3025 is complete already, then you can submit with that. Did you not complete all immunizations with the UK medical exam? If that is the case, then getting a CS to sign off on them can be a challenge..you need to shop around for who will sign off on the immunizations without doing a full medical.


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14 minutes ago, geowrian said:

If the DS-3025 is complete already, then you can submit with that. Did you not complete all immunizations with the UK medical exam? If that is the case, then getting a CS to sign off on them can be a challenge..you need to shop around for who will sign off on the immunizations without doing a full medical.

I have found a doctor that will sign off my vaccinations now, but it does not involve the form I-693, the doctor said that form is only used when doing a full physical and is 13 pages long, the vaccinations form is only one page. 

 

I did have all the vaccinations in the UK prior and have the DS-3025 to show them. Will not sending off a I-693 with the AOS cause issues? Or will they see that I am within the 1 year timescale at USCIS with my medical documents?

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23 minutes ago, Mr J said:

I have found a doctor that will sign off my vaccinations now, but it does not involve the form I-693, the doctor said that form is only used when doing a full physical and is 13 pages long, the vaccinations form is only one page. 

 

I did have all the vaccinations in the UK prior and have the DS-3025 to show them. Will not sending off a I-693 with the AOS cause issues? Or will they see that I am within the 1 year timescale at USCIS with my medical documents?

 

The instructions for the form tell what must be filled out. The doctor is not correct.

Take time to read the i-693 instructions. 

 

If you had all shots noted on you DS-3025, send a photocopy with your AOS. See a civil surgeon only if you get to your interview and your interviewer reviews your file and insists on a civil surgeon. 

 

 

 

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From what I was aware, I would need to see a doctor to have the vaccinations confirmed as done when I was applying for AOS, like I said, one Civil Surgeon has said they can do this but not using the I-693 form. So this is wrong, it has to be on an I-693 or not at all? Sorry if I am not making much sense, my brains fried from all the conflicting reading and calling doctors up asking for answers.

 

The instructions I found say thus...

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I had my medical in the UK but needed to still get my flu jab and tetanus shot. Once I got to the US and married, I got my health insurance, and those jabs are considered preventative so they were free (I got these done with a random Dr that my health insurance, Oscar, covered). Once I had copies of these, I found the nearest USCIS doctor and paid him I think $80 to fill in the form. He didn’t need to do a complete medical, just complete the page on vaccinations (google AOS medical vaccination form and it will come up). When filing for AOS I included the medical from London, as well as my new vaccination form. 

 

($80 is with a dr near NYC... other prices may vary in other areas).

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Yes, you must show proof that you complied with vaccination requirements. This is via the completed DS-3025 that you should have a copy of already.

Otherwise you would have to get the necessary vaccintions and submit the I-693 with noted sections completed.


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10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

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Also note!! When I called doctors about pricing they also told me I would need a full medical done until I told them that I was a k1 visa holder and only required a vaccination report

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4 minutes ago, Mr J said:

From what I was aware, I would need to see a doctor to have the vaccinations confirmed 

Confirmed again? No, this is not instructed anywhere.

 

as done when I was applying for AOS, like I said, one Civil Surgeon has said they can do this but not using the I-693 form. So this is wrong, it has to be on an I-693 or not at all?

 

Not at all. You already fulfilled the vaccination requirement overseas and your proof is a complete DS3025.

 

Sorry if I am not making much sense, my brains fried from all the conflicting reading and calling doctors up asking for answers.

 

The instructions I found say thus...

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You need to stop reading about the I693. You are confusing your K1 status with that of other Visa statuses who have not fulfilled the medical and vaccination requirement. 

You submit a photocopy of your copy of the DS3025 with the AOS application and bring your copy to the interview.

The ONLY EXCEPTION to that rule is if you get a degenerate IO officer at your interview and they pass the judgment that you need an I693 (which is wrong and totally contradictory to the Policy Manual that they are instructed to follow).

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1 hour ago, Mr J said:

From what I was aware, I would need to see a doctor to have the vaccinations confirmed as done when I was applying for AOS, like I said, one Civil Surgeon has said they can do this but not using the I-693 form. So this is wrong, it has to be on an I-693 or not at all? Sorry if I am not making much sense, my brains fried from all the conflicting reading and calling doctors up asking for answers.

 

The instructions I found say thus...

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Mr J-- yes those are the instructions which indicate a K1 is an exception the the entire I-693 full medical requirement for most who adjust status. 

 

Do you meet the requirements?

A. Yes, you got K1

B. n/a

C. Yes, you had visa medical in London

C1a. (Assuming you had no Class 1 condition like TB that requires further evaluation or treatment in US)

C2. Yes you have proof that you have had all the shots and they are ALL on the form DS3025 signed off by the doctor at Knightsbridge clinic. You have a photocopy, but the original is with the rest of your medical file in the white envelope at POE. 

 

And concerning what a civil surgeon would need to fill out IF you hadn't already been signed off on shots at Knightsbridge, for example the one who posted she got shots after arriving in the US.---

That is covered in C2:  Parts 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 9 of the form I-693.

 

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OP: It's best to look before you leap.

If you have

 

1) completed your UK medical and all shots are complete and signed off on as required

 

and

 

2) you have a copy of your DS-3025 from that medical

 

and

 

3) you are only just starting to fill out your AOS to send in

 

You do not need to do anything with an I-693 at all unless you:

 

1) receive a notice from the USCIS stating the DS-3025 you sent with your AOS is insufficient

 

 or

 

2) they lost your DS-3025 or the officer is new or not aware of the rules, or they couldn't be bothered to go find your original medical results

 

or

3) at an interview the officer requests a new medical directly.

 

If either of the first two scenarios happen you would need to find a US Civil Surgeon that would only recertify the vaccination portion of the form. Your only challenge will be finding one that will comply.


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3 hours ago, Wuozopo said:

 

The instructions for the form tell what must be filled out. The doctor is not correct.

Take time to read the i-693 instructions. 

 

If you had all shots noted on you DS-3025, send a photocopy with your AOS. See a civil surgeon only if you get to your interview and your interviewer reviews your file and insists on a civil surgeon. 

 

 

 

Try arguing with the Doctor. Ha Ha

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