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Obama OK’d $310 million in free legal advice to illegal immigrants

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Isn't it ironic that generally speaking the only time a majority of people speak good about a president is when he is dead.


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On 12/7/2018 at 12:23 PM, Chris Duffy said:

Of course he did, he was an illegal himself

 

He cared more about non American than he did about American Citizen

Very true. I was working on my wife's immigration case towards the end of Obama's presidency. If I had hired an attorney it would have cost at least a few grand. I wish this legal assistance was available for legitimate applicants and their USC sponsors. Instead I did all the work myself because I couldn't afford the cost of an attorney at the time (and because the people here at visajourney showed me I didn't need an attorney if I put in the time doing the research and paperwork). This is one example of illegals actually being treated better than legal applicants and their USC sponsors.


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1 hour ago, jg121783 said:

Very true. I was working on my wife's immigration case towards the end of Obama's presidency. If I had hired an attorney it would have cost at least a few grand. I wish this legal assistance was available for legitimate applicants and their USC sponsors. Instead I did all the work myself because I couldn't afford the cost of an attorney at the time (and because the people here at visajourney showed me I didn't need an attorney if I put in the time doing the research and paperwork). This is one example of illegals actually being treated better than legal applicants and their USC sponsors.

This money went to unaccompanied children - that means kids under 18 with no parent-

 

You are an adult not a 5yr old child. Seriously do you expect a 5yr old to be able to fill out forms and represent themselves in immigration court all alone? (and they do appear in court alone many times sadly). Perhaps VJ should add a coloring book guide for those kids? 

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54 minutes ago, Damara said:

This money went to unaccompanied children - that means kids under 18 with no parent-

 

You are an adult not a 5yr old child. Seriously do you expect a 5yr old to be able to fill out forms and represent themselves in immigration court all alone? (and they do appear in court alone many times sadly). Perhaps VJ should add a coloring book guide for those kids? 

All children under 18 are not 5.  Logical fallacy.

 

The money would have been better spent deporting the children and reuniting them with their parents.  No child is better off without their parents unless the parents are abusing them.

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Of course not all the kids are 5. Some are older, some are younger. At what age do you think a child should be representing themselves in court??

 

High numbers of the children helped by this money do claim abuse, neglect or abandoned (SIJ) others claim refugee status. In 2015 90% of the kids who had no representation were deported. Lots of statistics in this link- Im sure someone will find one to tear apart. 

 

https://www.infoplease.com/us/immigration/migrant-minors-faqs-facts-and-statistics

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2 hours ago, jg121783 said:

Very true. I was working on my wife's immigration case towards the end of Obama's presidency. If I had hired an attorney it would have cost at least a few grand. I wish this legal assistance was available for legitimate applicants and their USC sponsors. Instead I did all the work myself because I couldn't afford the cost of an attorney at the time (and because the people here at visajourney showed me I didn't need an attorney if I put in the time doing the research and paperwork). This is one example of illegals actually being treated better than legal applicants and their USC sponsors.

Obama Presidency was just a fad, similar to the pet rock in the 70's,  Beanie Bears in the 90's, and Fidget Spinner recently.

 

He will be judge harshly in the future, similar to Jimmy Carter. 

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1 hour ago, Damara said:

Of course not all the kids are 5. Some are older, some are younger. At what age do you think a child should be representing themselves in court??

 

High numbers of the children helped by this money do claim abuse, neglect or abandoned (SIJ) others claim refugee status. In 2015 90% of the kids who had no representation were deported. Lots of statistics in this link- Im sure someone will find one to tear apart. 

 

https://www.infoplease.com/us/immigration/migrant-minors-faqs-facts-and-statistics

If a child were actually being abused, and the money helped them, then good. I admit I have become pretty cynical towards programs that are supposed to help people (red cross comes to mind) when the monies are unaccounted for and executives have large salaries. 

 

I also know many kids were dumped at the border by parents hoping they had a better chance of remaining in the US without the parent.

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4 hours ago, Chris Duffy said:

He will be judge harshly in the future

Only by racists and bigots.


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7 hours ago, Chris Duffy said:

Obama Presidency was just a fad, similar to the pet rock in the 70's,  Beanie Bears in the 90's, and Fidget Spinner recently.

 

He will be judge harshly in the future, similar to Jimmy Carter. 

Only difference is though he was an ineffective president Carter meant well and has done a lot of good for our society after being president. Obama on the other hand was actively trying to divide and destroy our country. The only things I have seen him do after his presidency have been things that benefit himself financially. It's not fair to compare the two.


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8 hours ago, Damara said:

This money went to unaccompanied children - that means kids under 18 with no parent-

 

You are an adult not a 5yr old child. Seriously do you expect a 5yr old to be able to fill out forms and represent themselves in immigration court all alone? (and they do appear in court alone many times sadly). Perhaps VJ should add a coloring book guide for those kids? 

First of all I am a little skeptical of this claim. We were told most of the migrants were children and it turns out most were military aged men. We were also told DACA recipients were all children when the definition of a child in this case was anyone under 30. Regardless it is illegal to use tax money to help an illegal alien avoid deportation. This is well established in the courts but Obama was never one who cared what the law says. Also in my case my 10 year old step son immigrated here with his mother. He is a child. Where was his government funded legal assistance?


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10 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

First of all I am a little skeptical of this claim. We were told most of the migrants were children and it turns out most were military aged men. We were also told DACA recipients were all children when the definition of a child in this case was anyone under 30. Regardless it is illegal to use tax money to help an illegal alien avoid deportation. This is well established in the courts but Obama was never one who cared what the law says. Also in my case my 10 year old step son immigrated here with his mother. He is a child. Where was his government funded legal assistance?

All valid points, thanks for sharing.

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