8 killed in shooting at Texas' Santa Fe High School, CNN affiliates report

[Steeleballz 7,550]

3 hours ago, X Factor said:

So sad that our kids everywhere have to deal with this instead of being kids

 

  Not everywhere, but certainly becoming a pattern in America. 

[JimandChristy 1,689]

2 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Not everywhere, but certainly becoming a pattern in America. 

But the rest of the first world is wrong apparently.

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9 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Not everywhere, but certainly becoming a pattern in America. 

Its become a pattern because the attacker is glorified and gets press. Apparently Cruz has been getting tons of fan letters and love letters. This guy, now that his name and social media info has been plastered every where will be the same. The seeds for the next attack were sown just hours ago.

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[Steeleballz 7,550]

Just now, JimandChristy said:

But the rest of the first world is wrong apparently.

 

   We seem to have an easy time looking at other cultures and pointing out what is wrong. Some foreign country has barbaric practices, the other country does things backwards. Not so easy to look in the mirror and point at ourselves. 

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Just now, Sonea said:

Its become a pattern because the attacker is glorified and gets press. Apparently Cruz has been getting tons of fan letters and love letters. This guy, now that his name and social media info has been plastered every where will be the same. The seeds for the next attack were sown just hours ago.

Yep, the Drive Bys love it.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

16 minutes ago, Sonea said:

Its become a pattern because the attacker is glorified and gets press. Apparently Cruz has been getting tons of fan letters and love letters. This guy, now that his name and social media info has been plastered every where will be the same. The seeds for the next attack were sown just hours ago.

 

    Many studies I have come across say media coverage may contribute to some of these incidents. I don't believe I have ever seen anything or anyone involved with these types of studies suggest that they media coverage is the primary reason. 

 

   Case in point. There was a mass shooting at a school in Canada on  Jan 22 2016. There was extremely intense media coverage of the event in Canada and yet there has not been another school shooting to this date in Canada. Sorry, but part of this "phenomenon" is American culture and our whole approach to firearms. There is no easy way to getting around that, and I think it's safe to say that the current approach is not working.

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13 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    Many studies I have come across say media coverage may contribute to some of these incidents. I don't believe I have ever seen anything or anyone involved with these types of studies suggest that they media coverage is the primary reason. 

 

   Case in point. There was a mass shooting at a school in Canada on  Jan 22 2016. There was extremely intense media coverage of the event in Canada and yet there has not been another school shooting to this date in Canada. Sorry, but part of this "phenomenon" is American culture and our whole approach to firearms. There is no easy way to getting around that, and I think it's safe to say that the current approach is not working.

Canada only has a population of 39million, so its equiv. to a US state in terms of frequency. They have had an additional mass shooting in 2017 + the van attack last month. 

 

If you look at the frequency attacks there, they are accelerating as well. 

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12 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

Sorry, but part of this "phenomenon" is American culture and our whole approach to firearms. There is no easy way to getting around that, and I think it's safe to say that the current approach is not working.

It's too late to try legislation as some kind of fix.  There are already plenty of laws in place....if these armed invaders were law abiding citizens...........it's time to stop talking....it's time to place trained, armed response personnel in every school.

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We have school shooting after school shooting and nothing is every done. Kids fear going to school and the politicians doesn't care.

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3 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

We have school shooting after school shooting and nothing is every done. Kids fear going to school and the politicians doesn't care.

Politicians can't protect our children..Laws can't protect them....

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It appears he used a pistol and shotgun. Which is what I have always said was so absurd about the Ar-15 absolute stupidity. If I wanted to do maximum damage in a group an AR would never be my first choice.  The fact that someone thinks you could ban AR-15's and stop these animals is beyond ridiculous and nothing more than uninformed people buying into the media hype.

 

Just for the record when I said animals I was referring to the shooters and not all students. Just in case anyone misunderstood. 

 

1 hour ago, Sonea said:

Its become a pattern because the attacker is glorified and gets press. Apparently Cruz has been getting tons of fan letters and love letters. This guy, now that his name and social media info has been plastered every where will be the same. The seeds for the next attack were sown just hours ago.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

25 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

We have school shooting after school shooting and nothing is every done. Kids fear going to school and the politicians doesn't care.

so what do you propose. An ar ban would not have affected this one at all 

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Just now, Nature Boy Flair said:

It appears he used a pistol and shotgun. Which is what I have always said was so absurd about the Ar-15 absolute stupidity. If I wanted to do maximum damage in a group an AR would never be my first choice.  The fact that someone thinks you could ban AR-15's and stop these animals is beyond ridiculous and nothing more than uninformed people buying into the media hype.

 

Just for the record when I said animals I was referring to the shooters and not all students. Just in case anyone misunderstood. 

 

You used the proper pronoun ("these") so we wouldn't.

 

If you said something like "and stop students" and wanted to refer just to the shooters then it would have been confusing.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

26 minutes ago, Sonea said:

Canada only has a population of 39million, so its equiv. to a US state in terms of frequency. They have had an additional mass shooting in 2017 + the van attack last month. 

 

If you look at the frequency attacks there, they are accelerating as well. 

 

   If you are talking about all mass shootings, and not just school shootings, I think the media coverage aspect is less applicable. I don't think the rate or frequency in Canada (or other western countries) approaches the USA. 

 

  Having lived in Canada, one difference compared to the USA is it's harder to get handguns in general, and harder for teenagers to get any type of gun. I guess that might be two differences but I think the gun culture plays a role. Too many people I've come across think guns are glorified toys and that is part of the problem. No disrespect to all the responsible gun owners out there, but there are just too many who are irresponsible.  

[Steeleballz 7,550]

36 minutes ago, missileman said:

It's too late to try legislation as some kind of fix.  There are already plenty of laws in place....if these armed invaders were law abiding citizens...........it's time to stop talking....it's time to place trained, armed response personnel in every school.

 

    Many of these schools have had an armed liaison officer in place when the shootings occurred. When the shooter is a student at the school they know when the officer is on parking lot duty, when he is eating lunch and every other time and place where they can avoid the officer. Even at my daughters school, I know the officer is outside directing traffic at 07:50 and at 14:55. I'm sure every student knows that too.  Maybe you need 2 officers or 3, but people don't want to pay for the one they already have. I think too many people are hoping the problem solves itself, but that's not going to happen.