8 killed in shooting at Texas' Santa Fe High School, CNN affiliates report

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 hour ago, JimandChristy said:

The easy access to guns certainly causes these incidents.

 

Any rational country on the face of the planet would recoil in horror and do anything possible to try rectify the situation. UK did after Dunblane, Australia did after Port Arthur. Gun enthuasiasts in the USA blame everything except the actual cause.

If we had easier much easier  access to guns 30 years ago , and did not have any of this why now. Access to guns is harder now.

 

That makes no logical sense 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

12 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

It would not. The death penalty is not a deterrent. 

Oh, it is.  It was, back when it was the norm.

 

When fines or jail time keep people from speeding or running red lights, it stands to reason that dying for killing someone is a deterrent.  

Edited May 19, 2018 by IDWAF

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

34 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

And another thing on these shootings.  We as a nation/state/whatever need to start prosecuting the parents of kids who take guns to school and kill people.  What kind of parent allows their children access to unlocked guns?  If the gun belongs to the parent, then there should be some sort of shared responsibility.

Spooks, I KNOW you are intelligent enough to get it.  But not everyone does.  They want to blame the guns, the NRA, or just about ANYTHING except those who are actually to blame.  

Almost every home I visited as a youth had a gun cabinet unlocked. Guess why we never touched them 

[bcking 3,157]

2 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

Oh, it is.  It was, back when it was the norm.

Last time I looked at the evidence I believe there isn't much to show that it is a deterrent. I could be wrong.

 

I personally favour a life sentences with solitary confinement and no outside contact. Keep them alive, keep them suffering. Then see if anyone else will be excited to join them.

[Unidentified 2,930]

3 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

Oh, it is.  It was, back when it was the norm.

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-about-deterrence-and-death-penalty

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

12 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

It would not. The death penalty is not a deterrent. 

Liberal talking point noted 

[Unidentified 2,930]

Just now, Nature Boy Flair said:

Liberal talking point noted 

It is not a talking point. It is based on facts. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-about-deterrence-and-death-penalty

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Just now, bcking said:

Last time I looked at the evidence I believe there isn't much to show that it is a deterrent. I could be wrong.

 

I personally favour a life sentences with solitary confinement and no outside contact. Keep them alive, keep them suffering. Then see if anyone else will be excited to join them.

The arguments go both ways, actually.  (See Thurgood Marshall, 1972)

 

The trouble with solitary and prison is that everyone forgets about the criminal who is suffering.  Enough so that it is no longer a deterrent.  Meanwhile, if we eliminated those who kill, then killing would NOT be such a glorified thing to do to make headlines.  You’d only make the obituary.

2 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-about-deterrence-and-death-penalty

https://deathpenalty.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000983 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

2 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

It is not a talking point. It is based on facts. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-about-deterrence-and-death-penalty

Deathpenalty.com  that's funny  that's like going to Tommy Chongs website, to research pros and cons of Weed legalization 

Edited May 19, 2018 by Nature Boy Flair

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

3 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

It is not a talking point. It is based on facts. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-about-deterrence-and-death-penalty

If you kill someone you die.

 

If you kill someone, you get famous.

 

Now honestly, which method do YOU think will reduce murder?

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

3 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

The arguments go both ways, actually.  (See Thurgood Marshall, 1972)

 

The trouble with solitary and prison is that everyone forgets about the criminal who is suffering.  Enough so that it is no longer a deterrent.  Meanwhile, if we eliminated those who kill, then killing would NOT be such a glorified thing to do to make headlines.  You’d only make the obituary.

Bingo brother. We just smoked one here in Ga, that had been on death row since 1996. Nobody remembers him or what he did. Now had it been on the courthouse square 6 months after the crime, it would be a big deal. 

[Boiler 43,683]

1 hour ago, IDWAF said:

I know many will call me a brute or inhumane for this.  But if we just execute them every time a shooter does this, the problem would be less likely to occur.

Could we not just give them a cuddle?

[TBoneTX 43,404]

12 hours ago, Boiler said:

Beware of Greeks bearing gifts.

Actually, considering the story of the Trojan Horse, this should be "beware of gifts bearing Greeks."

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Wonder if someone from the MDL will have the duty this weekend ?

[Boiler 43,683]

Watching the Wedding and fuming about the injustice.