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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Canada
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Hello, I have my EAD/AP and am waiting for my green card through my US citizen wife. We are taking a vacation and coming back through JFK airport together. Has anyone traveled in this circumstance (one spouse is USC and other spouse is pending)? If so, at the PoE/airport in the US on the way back, should:

 

1) we both go to the US Citizen line and approach immigration together (advantage: line is shorter/quicker and we are together)

2) she go to US Citizen line and I go to "other/visitor" line and we approach immigration separately (advantage: we are both in the "correct" line); or

3) we both go the "other/visitor" line and approach immigration together (advantage: I am not in the US Citizen line thereby avoiding the appearance of seeking to be treated as a US Citizen, and we are together)

 

This is for JFK if that makes a difference (it shouldn't). Any thoughts or has anyone done this?

 

Note: i will be bringing my NOAs and marriage certificate as well as the EAD/GC so not worried about the documents I need. 

Edited by KeratNY
Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Ukraine
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I think you both should go to the 'other/visitor' line and then walk up to the booth as a couple, based on previous threads I've read.

K1 / K2 Visa

Service Center: California Service Center

Consulate: Kyiv, Ukriane

 

I-129-F mailed to USCIS 2017-11-10

Case Status received (NOA1) by USCIS: 2017-11-14

Check cashed: 2017-11-17

Case Received Email Notification: 2017-11-17

Case status available on myUSCIS: 2017-11-20

NOA1 Hardcopy received by mail: 2017-11-24

NOA2 Approval (204 days): 2018-06-06

Approval status updated on  new website: 2018-06-08

-- no updates on old website, no text, no email --

NOA2 Hardcopy received by mail: 2018-06-12

NVC Case Number Generated (21 days since NOA2): 2018-06-27

Case Left NVC: 2018-07-10 (13 days at NVC)

Case Received by Embassy: 2018-07-12 (2 days travel time!)

Medical Exam: 2018-07-16

Interview: 2018-08-08 (Approved)

Entry: 2018-09-19 (Chicago POE)

Marriage: 2018-10-12

 

"New" Case Status website: https://myaccount.uscis.dhs.gov/

"Old" Case Status website: https://egov.uscis.gov/casestatus/landing.do

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Germany
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The 2 times my fiancée and I entered the US together, we went to different lines—she went to the citizens line while I went to the visa holders line.  The 1st time was in Newark, and the officer didn‘t say anything.  The 2nd time was in Baltimore, and that officer recommended that next time we both go to the visa line together.  That‘s what we‘ll do in the future. 

Posted

You are required to have one customs form per family - therefore you should go to a desk together.

Accompany her to the US citizen line.

 

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Canada
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1 hour ago, mindthegap said:

You are required to have one customs form per family - therefore you should go to a desk together.

Accompany her to the US citizen line.

 

3 replies,  3 different answers! My lawyer told me I should not go to the US Citizen line "for obvious reasons" which I interpret as "not trying to pretend I'm a USC." Can't tell if he's just being overly conservative though. Do you have experience as a intending immigrant in the USC line?

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Canada
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4 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

There are always officials around to guide people into the correct lines, just ask ...they may put you into a faster line than you expect.

 

I don't trust them, I think they'll make it up on the spot 

5 hours ago, RLA said:

The 2nd time was in Baltimore, and that officer recommended that next time we both go to the visa line together.  That‘s what we‘ll do in the future. 

Which line though? USC or "other/visitor"?

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Canada
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5 hours ago, x_driven_x said:

I think you both should go to the 'other/visitor' line and then walk up to the booth as a couple, based on previous threads I've read.

Why not the USC line? Seems mean/weird to force her into a longer line than she would otherwise be in on her own. 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Morocco
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My husband and I just returned last week from a trip abroad (he is the beneficiary, I am the USC). I went with him through the visitor/'other' visa line. I'm glad I did too, because we were pulled aside and had to wait about 30 additional minutes as they checked his passport and AP documents just to make sure everything was ok. If we had gone in separate lines, I would have lost him and had to wait for him not knowing where he was (no phones were allowed in the 2nd waiting area where they checked his documents).

 

Regardless of which line you choose, I think it's important to stay together in the event that you face any additional questioning, especially if it's your first time traveling with AP.

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December 19, 2016: NOA1 receive date 

May 5, 2017: NOA2 hardcopy (still listed as 'received' online...)

May 23, 2017: NVC case number assigned

July 10, 2017: Interview
July 14, 2017: Visa in hand
July 27, 2017: POE at ORD

August 5, 2017: Married!

 

 

 

AOS Process    

Spoiler

 

AOS Process  

September 8, 2017 : Mailed AOS Packet

September 16, 2017 : NOA1 text/emails (receive date Sept. 12)

October 2, 2017 : Biometrics Appointment

October 13, 2017 : RFIE letter received in mail (they want an English translated Birth Certificate, which we included in the original petition...)

January 24, 2018: EAD/AP Combo Card in hand

August 9, 2018: AOS Interview (Approved)

August 9, 2018: "Card in Production"

August 16, 2018: Green card in hand

 

 

May 2020: ROC!

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Canada
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4 minutes ago, RJandHamid said:

My husband and I just returned last week from a trip abroad (he is the beneficiary, I am the USC). I went with him through the visitor/'other' visa line. I'm glad I did too, because we were pulled aside and had to wait about 30 additional minutes as they checked his passport and AP documents just to make sure everything was ok. If we had gone in separate lines, I would have lost him and had to wait for him not knowing where he was (no phones were allowed in the 2nd waiting area where they checked his documents).

 

Regardless of which line you choose, I think it's important to stay together in the event that you face any additional questioning, especially if it's your first time traveling with AP.

Thanks that's helpful. I agree, our priority is to stay together, especially since we are a married couple and it defies common sense that we should be in different lines. We don't want the stress of her waiting for me and not knowing what is happening. 2nd, I assume I will face less pressure/questioning when I an with my USC wife. 

 

Why did you not both go through the USC line though?

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Morocco
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3 minutes ago, KeratNY said:

Thanks that's helpful. I agree, our priority is to stay together, especially since we are a married couple and it defies common sense that we should be in different lines. We don't want the stress of her waiting for me and not knowing what is happening. 2nd, I assume I will face less pressure/questioning when I an with my USC wife. 

 

Why did you not both go through the USC line though?

We were directed to go through the 'other' line because the USC line at our airport (ORD) is only for USC, green card holders, or those with ESTA. The USC line at this airport (not sure if all airports are like this) also has the automated passport kiosks where you scan your passport and it takes your photo, and I don't think he would have been able to use that machine. Honestly, the line that we waited in wasn't really that long. There were maybe 15 people ahead of us on a Sunday afternoon. The longest part was waiting in the 2nd waiting room after, and even that wasn't too bad as we weren't really questioned, just made to wait as they reviewed the documents. 

If you are going through the visa process and will be interviewing in Casablanca, Morocco, join us over at the

US-Morocco Visa Discussion Facebook Group! :) 

 

K1 Visa Process                                                                                                   

Spoiler

 

December 19, 2016: NOA1 receive date 

May 5, 2017: NOA2 hardcopy (still listed as 'received' online...)

May 23, 2017: NVC case number assigned

July 10, 2017: Interview
July 14, 2017: Visa in hand
July 27, 2017: POE at ORD

August 5, 2017: Married!

 

 

 

AOS Process    

Spoiler

 

AOS Process  

September 8, 2017 : Mailed AOS Packet

September 16, 2017 : NOA1 text/emails (receive date Sept. 12)

October 2, 2017 : Biometrics Appointment

October 13, 2017 : RFIE letter received in mail (they want an English translated Birth Certificate, which we included in the original petition...)

January 24, 2018: EAD/AP Combo Card in hand

August 9, 2018: AOS Interview (Approved)

August 9, 2018: "Card in Production"

August 16, 2018: Green card in hand

 

 

May 2020: ROC!

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Germany
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21 minutes ago, KeratNY said:

Which line though? USC or "other/visitor"?

The line for visa holders, which has always been very short at BWI.  If I remember correctly, BWI has one line for USC, LPR, and ESTA holders (left) and one for visa holders (right). 

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Canada
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Posted
4 minutes ago, RJandHamid said:

We were directed to go through the 'other' line because the USC line at our airport (ORD) is only for USC, green card holders, or those with ESTA. The USC line at this airport (not sure if all airports are like this) also has the automated passport kiosks where you scan your passport and it takes your photo, and I don't think he would have been able to use that machine. Honestly, the line that we waited in wasn't really that long. There were maybe 15 people ahead of us on a Sunday afternoon. The longest part was waiting in the 2nd waiting room after, and even that wasn't too bad as we weren't really questioned, just made to wait as they reviewed the documents. 

Makes sense. Sometimes the "other" line can be 3 hours long while the USC line is 15 minutes long. That's what I dread honestly. In that case it's gonna be so hard to not just go to the USC line with my USC wife. 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Germany
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11 minutes ago, KeratNY said:

Why did you not both go through the USC line though?

I think CBP might not allow that.  The officers at the USC/LPR/ESTA line might not have the training to handle more complex subjects such as visas, AP, or re-entry permits. 

Posted (edited)
39 minutes ago, KeratNY said:

Do you have experience as a intending immigrant in the USC line?

Yes, with the CR-1, and also as a non-immigrant when travelling with my USC spouse for the reason that as you are married it is one customs form per family (https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/441/~/travelers-eligible-to-file-a-joint-or-family-declaration-on-a-cbp-form-6059b) you can't share the customs form (which gets stamped by the immigration officer) if in different lines.   

If the customs form isn't stamped by the immigration officer, you will have major issues at the customs exit check. Ask me how I know this!

 

Your spouse can use the USC line, therefore you accompany her. You are way over thinking this.

 

Edited by mindthegap

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

 
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