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My fiance had his interview this morning, and I'd expected it to go well. My two kids and I lived with him for 3 months this summer (was supposed to be longer, but I had to come home because of my business). People get approved having just met once - we were together for a long time! My income is well above the minimum, we both speak each other's languages fluently, we had tons of pictures. What could possibly go wrong?

My fiance said he was the last one to be called of all the K-1 applicants, and he was also the only guy. The other applicants were done in 5 minutes. His interview took about 15 minutes. He said the CO was fairly friendly and positive, but he started asking him questions about the civil union he listed on an application for a B-2 visa (this application was subsequently denied). The CO asked why my fiance said he had never been married, but on an old DS-160, he said he was in a civil union with another girl. My fiance said it was because a civil union in Russia means that two people are living together and sharing finances, but aren't actually married legally. It was a very stupid thing to put down on his application. To me, civil union is for people who want to get married but cannot - like in countries where gay marriage is illegal.

The CO then asked why, the last time my fiance applied for a B-2 visa, he didn't list me as family or as a contact person. My fiance said because there was no where to put my name (it's true - I'm not a family member, and that's what the application asked for), and his reason for visiting was truly tourism. I hate this whole process of getting a visa - you absolutely will not get a visa if you say you're coming to visit a girlfriend, and you absolutely will not get a visa if you are a young, unmarried person who's coming just for tourism. Then, you'll later be interrogated for any answer you gave before.

He wasn't given an answer either way because he is having is medical done tomorrow (both the clinic and the consulate said this is fine because his interview was scheduled literally 2 days after the consulate received the packet). He was also told to email his resume to the CO - which he was prepared for. They did keep his passport. And again, the CO wasn't rude or unfriendly. I'm so frustrated. There's nothing I can do, nothing my fiance can do, nothing. Now we can only hope that the CO will focus on the fact that my kids and I were there for 3 months this summer - something we would not have done if the relationship between my fiance and me weren't bona fide.

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Thread is moved from the K-1 Process forum to the K-1 Case Progress subforum.


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Hang in there! I interpret their keeping his passport as a positive sign.


USCIS

Married: 08/12/2016

I-130 sent: 08/16/2016

NOA1: 08/18/2016

Received email 09/19/2016 that I-130 was approved 09/17/2016.

On 09/21/2016, I-130 approval date changed to 09/19/2016.

I-130 approved: 09/19/2016

Received hard copy NOA2: 09/23/2016

Sent to NVC: 10/11/2016 No text or email from USCIS. Had to log into USCIS account to find out.

NVC

NVC Received: 10/18/2016

Case # and IIN#: 10/27/2016

Choice of Agent -DS-261: 10/27/2016

AOS Fee Invoiced: 10/29/2016

AOS Fee Paid: 10/29/2016

DS-261 reviewed over the phone: 10/31/2016

IV Fee Invoiced: 11/02/2016

IV Fee Paid: 11/02/2016

DS-260 Completed: 11/04/2016

Sent AOS & IV Package: 11/03/2016

Scan Date: 11/07/2016

RFE: 11/09/2016 (NVC wants I-864 instead of I-864EZ)

RFE Response Submittal: 11/09/2016

Case Complete by phone call: 11/10/2016

Case Complete by email: 11/18/2016

Interview Appointment letter by email: 12/01/2016

Left NVC: 12/02/2016

Embassy

Case Ready at Embassy: 12/05/2016

Case Ready and "touched" at Embassy" 12/16/2016

Medical Date: 12/21/2016 Sputum testing required so this sets us back at least a few months.

Interview Date: 01/04/2017  Interview went well.  We are in "administrative Processing" until negative Sputum Test result is received in March.  The consulate will then issue the Immigrant Visa. So there is nothing further for us to do.  We agreed to have the consulate cancel My wife's B1/B2 visa from an older passport and it was stamped "cancelled without prejudice".  We did this now so she would not have to go back to the consulate to have it done later.

Visa Issued:  03/07/2017

Visa in Hand: 03/08/2017

POE:  03/29/2017 Charlotte, NC  Processed quickly at airport (about 20 minutes with CBP) and was not even asked any questions.

Social Security Card:  Received 04/07/2017 (processed through CBP at POE)

Green Card Issued:  4/19/2017

 

Removal of Conditions

File ROC (I-751):  eligible 12/29/2018

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I wouldn't worry too much. They have to make sure that he was not "inventing ties to home" in order to get the visa by putting a civil union on there (I think he was sort of exaggerating in order to get the visa — "my SERIOUS gf is back in Russia!"). And then not subsequently hiding ties to the US by omitting you from the form as a girlfriend.

The validness or your relationship does not overcome a material misrepresentation; that is visa law. I don't think he has a material misrep, but they have to check out these stories, and judge his reaction when they ask him about it.


AOS for my husband
8/17/10: INTERVIEW DAY (day 123) APPROVED!!

ROC:
5/23/12: Sent out package
2/06/13: APPROVED!

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I wouldn't worry too much. They have to make sure that he was not "inventing ties to home" in order to get the visa by putting a civil union on there (I think he was sort of exaggerating in order to get the visa — "my SERIOUS gf is back in Russia!"). And then not subsequently hiding ties to the US by omitting you from the form as a girlfriend.

The validness or your relationship does not overcome a material misrepresentation; that is visa law. I don't think he has a material misrep, but they have to check out these stories, and judge his reaction when they ask him about it.

Thanks for your explanation. :) It all comes down to waiting - the CO said he would make a decision in a week. I wonder how they check out these things? Do they go on our facebooks or something? Listen to our old skype calls or something? I actually hope so in this case, because it would only help. Although it's kind of creepy to think about.

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Thanks for your explanation. :) It all comes down to waiting - the CO said he would make a decision in a week. I wonder how they check out these things? Do they go on our facebooks or something? Listen to our old skype calls or something? I actually hope so in this case, because it would only help. Although it's kind of creepy to think about.

No. They look over the evidence you sent. But even if they listened to your skype calls if he lied then it's over. The lying and your relationship are separate issues.


AOS for my husband
8/17/10: INTERVIEW DAY (day 123) APPROVED!!

ROC:
5/23/12: Sent out package
2/06/13: APPROVED!

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Thanks for your explanation. :) It all comes down to waiting - the CO said he would make a decision in a week. I wonder how they check out these things? Do they go on our facebooks or something? Listen to our old skype calls or something? I actually hope so in this case, because it would only help. Although it's kind of creepy to think about.

Sorry that you're feeling discouraged! This whole process IS stressful! My husband was rejected for a B-2 as well because of our marriage and the fact that he left his university. Very frustrating... :crying:

I heard that facebook profiles can be checked. Don't know about Skype. Sometimes it's you (as the USC) they are looking out for, they might want to make sure your fiance isn't a liar or somehow who could be using you. It does seem like overkill but for them I suppose it's just regular protocol. COs are trained to be skeptical of all applicants, it's just their job. Still hard not to get frustrated about it sometimes! :girlwerewolf2xn:

And yes, male Russian fiances/spouses are rarer than their female counterparts, but I don't really think it's a factor. I know two American ladies who successfully got their Russian husbands over via Moscow so hopefully everything will work out for you in the end, too!

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26-Jul-2016: Married abroad :3
21-Dec-2016: I-130 filed at Embassy
29-Dec-2016: I-130 approved! Yay! 

17-Jan-2017: Case number received :]

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview - approved!

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail

31-Jul-2017: SSN arrived via mail, hurrah!

                     I-90 GC Replacment (for Erroneous GC)

Spoiler

22-Jul-2017: GC arrives in the mail – middle name is cut off 😕

01-Aug-2017: Sent in I-90 online via website

05-Aug-2017: Biometrics scheduled

23-Aug-2017: Biometrics done @ USCIS office; kept GC!

16-Jul-2018: RFE for supporting docs!! D:<

31-Jul-2018: USCIS Appointment at local field office..

22-Aug-2018: Mailed GC back to USCIS in response to RFE

29-Aug-2018: GC received by USCIS

17-Sept-2018: Received CORRECTED GC in the mail! Finally!!

 

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No. They look over the evidence you sent. But even if they listened to your skype calls if he lied then it's over. The lying and your relationship are separate issues.

That makes sense. I feel confident about everything we submitted because I put everything together. My fiance said the CO was scrutinizing only the photos of us when we were outside.

I wouldn't say my fiance lied. He marked that he was in a common law marriage (sorry - I said civil union earlier), which he was, but then he also marked he was single. His rationale was that he wanted to be as honest as possible, and he thought he was because he was living with someone BUT he wasn't married. There was also some discrepancy about the question on DS-160 for the B-2 application, "How will be you be traveling?" He marked single or alone, or something. So this led to some misunderstanding. The CO said it sounded strange and he needed to review the dates over the next week.

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The visa situation is just so unfair. I really hate it. :(

I hope they do check our FB's -- I don't think they'd find much, other than we're friends, he <3's all my status updates and pics. But I don't post anything personal about my life on FB, and neither does he. You can see our photos, and that's it. So we'll see. I'm so anxious and feeling a little hopeless right now because I've read so many bad outcomes.

Sorry that you're feeling discouraged! This whole process IS stressful! My husband was rejected for a B-2 as well because of our marriage and the fact that he left his university. Very frustrating... :crying:

I heard that facebook profiles can be checked. Don't know about Skype. Sometimes it's you (as the USC) they are looking out for, they might want to make sure your fiance isn't a liar or somehow who could be using you. It does seem like overkill but for them I suppose it's just regular protocol. COs are trained to be skeptical of all applicants, it's just their job. Still hard not to get frustrated about it sometimes! :girlwerewolf2xn:

And yes, male Russian fiances/spouses are rarer than their female counterparts, but I don't really think it's a factor. I know two American ladies who successfully got their Russian husbands over via Moscow so hopefully everything will work out for you in the end, too!

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If you don't mind me asking, what professtion is your Fiance in?

My (soon-to-be-) fiance is in Aerospace, so I already know we are going to be needing a resume and admin processing. I say soon to be since we are waiting for his divorce to be finalized before we let it become offical. Him and his soon to be ex-wife are trying to make agreements, they have been apart for 2 years now. And he would be leaving to go to Russia soon.

I do wish you a really quick approval.

Edited by CM&KV

I am the USC.

Visa Type - CR-1

Service Center - Texas

Engaged: Oct 19th 2017

Married: October 23rd, 2017 

Sent I-130 Petition: Jan 2nd 2018 

PD: Jan 3rd 2018

E-notification: Jan 8th 2018

NOA1 Hard copy: Jan 12th 2018

NOA2: June 28th 2018, new website. Old website: July 17th sent to DOS (finally appeared July 29th, after 206 days after petition sent and stating not found) Emails & texts: nothing. Hard Copy states NoA2 is June 27, 2018.

NOA2: Hard copy: July 2nd 2018

Sent to DOS: New Website: July 18th 2018. Old website July 17th (Case number was finally found after 206 days of submitting petition, appeared on July 29th.)

Received NVC: July 24th 2018, per calling NVC option 5. 

New Case number #: Via email August 21st 2018. While on the phone with the hubby. Case is PIVOT.

Fees paid August 21st 2018. Marked as paid on August 23rd 2018.

DS-260 filled and submitted:  August 27th 2018

AOS documents filled and submitted: August 29th, 2018

IV Documents: Submitted August 31st, 2018

Case Complete: September 11th 2018 via website 

Spoiler

Our visits

Him: J1 Visa (no 2 home requirement) May 2015-Nov2016 Offically met: Late July 2015 Started relationship mid-Aug 2015

Business trip B1 (Him): May 2017 - Nov 2017

2nd Business trip (Him): Feb 2018 - May 31st 2018

Visit Russia: 1st visit - hoping for end of Dec 2018 or his interview

2nd visit hopefully when he moves to the USA.

 

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If you don't mind me asking, what professtion is your Fiance in?

My (soon-to-be-) fiance is in Aerospace, so I already know we are going to be needing a resume and admin processing. I say soon to be since we are waiting for his divorce to be finalized before we let it become offical. Him and his soon to be ex-wife are trying to make agreements, they have been apart for 2 years now. And he would be leaving to go to Russia soon.

I do wish you a really quick approval.

Yep! Mechanical engineering. The CO asked some questions about his work history, too.

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I'm hoping that all they are waiting on is the medical part, and he will be granted his visa.

You and I are in the same boat, besides me not having a pending K1.


I am the USC.

Visa Type - CR-1

Service Center - Texas

Engaged: Oct 19th 2017

Married: October 23rd, 2017 

Sent I-130 Petition: Jan 2nd 2018 

PD: Jan 3rd 2018

E-notification: Jan 8th 2018

NOA1 Hard copy: Jan 12th 2018

NOA2: June 28th 2018, new website. Old website: July 17th sent to DOS (finally appeared July 29th, after 206 days after petition sent and stating not found) Emails & texts: nothing. Hard Copy states NoA2 is June 27, 2018.

NOA2: Hard copy: July 2nd 2018

Sent to DOS: New Website: July 18th 2018. Old website July 17th (Case number was finally found after 206 days of submitting petition, appeared on July 29th.)

Received NVC: July 24th 2018, per calling NVC option 5. 

New Case number #: Via email August 21st 2018. While on the phone with the hubby. Case is PIVOT.

Fees paid August 21st 2018. Marked as paid on August 23rd 2018.

DS-260 filled and submitted:  August 27th 2018

AOS documents filled and submitted: August 29th, 2018

IV Documents: Submitted August 31st, 2018

Case Complete: September 11th 2018 via website 

Spoiler

Our visits

Him: J1 Visa (no 2 home requirement) May 2015-Nov2016 Offically met: Late July 2015 Started relationship mid-Aug 2015

Business trip B1 (Him): May 2017 - Nov 2017

2nd Business trip (Him): Feb 2018 - May 31st 2018

Visit Russia: 1st visit - hoping for end of Dec 2018 or his interview

2nd visit hopefully when he moves to the USA.

 

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The visa situation is just so unfair. I really hate it. :(

I hope they do check our FB's -- I don't think they'd find much, other than we're friends, he <3's all my status updates and pics. But I don't post anything personal about my life on FB, and neither does he. You can see our photos, and that's it. So we'll see. I'm so anxious and feeling a little hopeless right now because I've read so many bad outcomes.

Bad outcomes for people trying to bring Russians are bad outcomes in general? Maybe the K-1 is more likely to be rejected than a CR-1/IR-1? It seems to me that a lot of people on this forum actually end up getting approved in the end (for both spouse and fiance/e visas), so hopefully everything will be fine for you too. :) Keep us updated!

Edited by millefleur

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                  🇷🇺  ♥  CR-1 via DCF in Moscow! ♥  🇺🇸

Spoiler

26-Jul-2016: Married abroad :3
21-Dec-2016: I-130 filed at Embassy
29-Dec-2016: I-130 approved! Yay! 

17-Jan-2017: Case number received :]

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview - approved!

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail

31-Jul-2017: SSN arrived via mail, hurrah!

                     I-90 GC Replacment (for Erroneous GC)

Spoiler

22-Jul-2017: GC arrives in the mail – middle name is cut off 😕

01-Aug-2017: Sent in I-90 online via website

05-Aug-2017: Biometrics scheduled

23-Aug-2017: Biometrics done @ USCIS office; kept GC!

16-Jul-2018: RFE for supporting docs!! D:<

31-Jul-2018: USCIS Appointment at local field office..

22-Aug-2018: Mailed GC back to USCIS in response to RFE

29-Aug-2018: GC received by USCIS

17-Sept-2018: Received CORRECTED GC in the mail! Finally!!

 

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