Fraud / Renewal on Provisional Green Card

[lacakid 0]

Hey! Question on fraud! Filed for my to be spouse to come here from the Philippines back in 2013 got here in June 2014, got married in July 2014.. Provisional green card received in December 2014. I had dated the spouse since 2011, Turned out to be a very angry, aggressive person once they found out that all Americans are not rich and do not have lots of money and do not live in mansions something that was well known before the arrival here in the USA in June!! After getting here noticed almost immediately phone apps for dating getting loaded on the phone, was aware of the angry temper rarely to violence but since landing and jet lag wearing off I was being evaluated on my poorness (As I was told I was, fat, old, poor, ugly etc, you name it) that I was just total $hit and poor! Glass would get thrown across the floor, late night going out without me to strange bars clubs etc. tons of new texts on the phone from people that were “new” and it just never ended. Fights were always. Tried to kick the room window out and was successful on the 5^th attempt, I would get hit many times and hurt on occasion, yelled at all the time at me. Wanted space all the time, not talking to me was regular, friends would come over conversations always in Tagalog. Then spouse learned the “911” on the cell phone and would called the Police FOR NOTHING! I would leave the house because if I had stayed one of us would have gotten arrested, that’s the law here on a Domestic Violence call, one time the police actually came over we were both here and spouse was asked to not call the anymore for false complaints, it didn’t last. There was no engaging on my part, I would just get hurt and allow it, as I was stupid and in love. Spouse moved out after I was falsy arrested in March 2015 for a fake DV call, when I got out 10 hours later from jail was getting laughed at until 2 days later spouse left the house not to be seen ever again this was mid – late March 2015. I let it go, I wrote the DHS at some office sent it USPS Priority and the Philippines Consulate and of course never hear a thing, I explained everything to them in the letter. There were also some sexually transmitted diseases caught not to me and not from me during the 8 months spent at my home from the I am guessing having sex for money as the spouse was probably doing, I’m still clean to this day 15 months later J. My dogs got abused mildly, glass thrown and the house getting banged up from heavy things being thrown around and TV’s getting destroyed, computers having water poured into them, trying to catch the house on fired by cutting all the electrical wires in the house. There is a lot more but let’s just say so people don’t go after me too much!! I was in love the last thing I wanted to do was engage the Police and the spouse lie and I go to jail and the spouse would get citizenship from fake domestic violence charges against me, I felt extremly trapped! Finally got served divorce paperwork on April 29^th 2016 guess I had been trying to be served since 01/29/2016 but was never home when they came by. The divorce has been delayed until November 2016 and the spouses provisional green card does not get renewed until 12/2016. Since my spouse has not lived here I have given no financials support and none is being asked for in the divorce, we have no kids, no mutual property, no credit cards in both our names, nothing in both our names. There is no evidence to support my spouse to stay here in the USA or that is a legitimate marriage, I think wants to marry someone else probably dating since leaving here in March 2015 so I was told anyway.

So why I am writing is to ask this! Is there any way possible to get my spouse deported for fraud? and I am going for annulment and fraud for the response to the divorce here in California and that will be a struggle based on fraud! At our marriage counselor many times in 2014 I heard stated “I am only here to make money and send money back to the Philippines” stated to me and the marriage counselor and then the “I don’t love you!” would follow, only here for money! and then the “When I am angry I need to destroy things”… Again I admit being in love and being stupid! so let’s go to the solution… After all this ALL I WANT is deportation and charges of fraud not for jail time but so the DHS will have record of it and not allow a future marriage in the USA to someone else and also no future visas or green cards due to fraud!

If ANYONE has been in this situation PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE email me or respond to this and give me some advice, I have a divorce / immigration attorney, even they don’t want to help…. I’m not sure if they can and I know it’s also motivated by money they can make off of me… All they want to do is the divorce L L

ALSO PLEASE do not debate as to the reasons why I want this for justice? for the abuse to me? for the illegal acts of violence? It can happen again to the next person easily they just run out of money! and I am sure it will repeat…

If I posted to the wrong forum please tell me where to repost it and I will correct it!!!

Thanks,

Pat

aka lacakid

Edited September 6, 2016 by lacakid

[Anitafeliz 1,133]

Well luckly you are out of it.

I suspect she filed for divorce and is filing for VAWA you do have a DV on you so thats all she needs.

She will be able to remove conditions and get her ten year green card.

I doubt you can stop it.

I assume attornies wont help because they know or belive you dont have a case.

Edited September 6, 2016 by Anitafeliz

[lacakid 0]

No I don't want to be out of it! and for the record let's say it's a "he" not that it matters at all, it really doesn't...

I was never charged with anything nor ever had to go to court ALL the cases maybe 3? were dropped by the investigators, if

that is tried I would think the VAWA needs proof! Solid proof...... you can't just say "I was abused" and then be

the abuser and get away with lies... I want justice I am sure someone has done this before and don't want to

let it go, there has to be someone to defend me! This is fraud! clearly when you ADMIT it to your marriage

counselor on every meeting that you have defrauded the government and your spouse (in front of) you have just

convicted yourself! There are hist friends that were told I am sure also that he was defrauding me, I never

knew, I really didn't or I would have never got married and shipped him back in mid 2014..

So I just want to get referred to the right person or agency? Federal District Attorney? I mean someone, Trumph??

Who?? and IF someone has gone through this and been successful I want to know...

Again tell me where to post! I gladly will!

--Pat

[Lotofdoubts 18]

She can remove condition without your help, I know this is not what you wanna hear/read but is a fact. The only thing you can do is to write a letter to USCIS and maybe even hand it personally in an Infopass appointment in your local office, but honestly that won't affect much her case, if any. I understand you are hurt and is painful beyond words but since her arrival you saw so many red flags and kept going, maybe it was love, need, loneliness, stubbornness, you name it... but right now, there is nothing you can do or should do... Forget about her, not that she worth even a thought from you... and if what you want is love, look in people you can trust, people you can see daily and can show you their true colors, not people in the other side of the world that can easily be scamming you or using you. Don't make impulsive decisions and analize the people you get involved with, before you get your feelings control you... Good luck.

[Anitafeliz 1,133]

No I don't want to be out of it! and for the record let's say it's a "he" not that it matters at all, it really doesn't...

I was never charged with anything nor ever had to go to court ALL the cases maybe 3? were dropped by the investigators, if

that is tried I would think the VAWA needs proof! Solid proof...... you can't just say "I was abused" and then be

the abuser and get away with lies... I want justice I am sure someone has done this before and don't want to

let it go, there has to be someone to defend me! This is fraud! clearly when you ADMIT it to your marriage

counselor on every meeting that you have defrauded the government and your spouse (in front of) you have just

convicted yourself! There are hist friends that were told I am sure also that he was defrauding me, I never

knew, I really didn't or I would have never got married and shipped him back in mid 2014..

So I just want to get referred to the right person or agency? Federal District Attorney? I mean someone, Trumph??

Who?? and IF someone has gone through this and been successful I want to know...

Again tell me where to post! I gladly will!

--Pat

You sound angry. Any professional that you can go to with your case if they felt you had a leg to stand on would help you.

Be it he she or whomever per your own statement got you on a DOMESTIC BATTERY charge whether or not it went to trial. You spent the night. That ALONE is enough for them to get attention for their VAWA angle.

You cannot just "ship" anyone off you didnt bye a human via visa its a partner.

Edited September 6, 2016 by Anitafeliz

[abhi_meli 150]

There is no use of beating the dead horse now.Sorry you had to go through this.You had many chances to take action but you decided otherwise.As you said you did it "out of love" so let it go and move on in your life.

[Rc123rc 528]

I am sorry for your tragic situation. The short answer to your question is no, there is no way you can have your former spouse deported. This topic has come up many many times. You can't have them deported. All you can do is report it. They can attempt a ROC on their own and it seems like they are smart enough to try it with a DV background. Your big mistake was not reporting them for DV the first time they did it and every time after.

[EM_Vandaveer 2,368]

Well luckly you are out of it.

I suspect she filed for divorce and is filing for VAWA you do have a DV on you so thats all she needs.

She will be able to remove conditions and get her ten year green card.

I doubt you can stop it.

I assume attornies wont help because they know or belive you dont have a case.

VAWA is NOT applicable as spouse already has a GC. VAWA is for getting a GC. There is an abuse waiver on ROC, but that is NOT VAWA (and abuse waiver ROC is rarely used as bona fide marriage still has to be proven with it, but you also have to prove abuse, the divorce waiver is much easier as only bona fide marriage and divorce proof is required). Edited September 6, 2016 by EM_Vandaveer

[EM_Vandaveer 2,368]

She/he arrived here in June 2014, immediately loaded phone with dating apps and you still married her/him in July 2016?

Let it go. You CANNOT deport your ex-spouse. All you can do is what you have already done, write a letter to USCIS.

In the unlikely event that you secure an annulment based on fraud, send evidence of this with a new letter to USCIS, no guarantees if this would make an effect, either.

If there really is no evidence of financial co-mingling, it is possible her or his ROC will be denied. There are many illegal immigrants in this country, there is no guarantee that even if the ROC is denied she/he would be deported.

She/he can move to a different address, for example and I doubt ICE will start a huge manhunt for her/him.

Edited September 6, 2016 by EM_Vandaveer

[Anitafeliz 1,133]

VAWA is NOT applicable as spouse already has a GC. VAWA is for getting a GC. There is an abuse waiver on ROC, but that is NOT VAWA (and abuse waiver ROC is rarely used as bona fide marriage still has to be proven with it, but you also have to prove abuse, the divorce waiver is much easier as only bona fide marriage and divorce proof is required).

ahh thank you i didnt know that

[TBoneTX 43,057]

About all that you can do is to hand over a copy of your USCIS letter, and hard evidence, to the FDNS officer during an InfoPass appointment. However, acting like an outraged former spouse might prevent you from being able to do this.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

You waited too long to be effective in my opinion but you have good evidence with her admission that she only married you

for the money to send home. How will you prove it in writing ? I assume the counselor will say it is a confidential matter.

A letter to USCIS is fine and on the bottom of this page in the disclaimer is the ICE email and phone number you can contact.

Evidence is the key, not just a narration of what happened.

Then let it go and move on, you do your part and it is up to them how they will proceed, don't get attached to the outcome.

[zorus40k 21]

So why I am writing is to ask this! Is there any way possible to get my spouse deported for fraud?

After all this ALL I WANT is deportation and charges of fraud not for jail time but so the DHS will have record of it and not allow a future marriage in the USA to someone else and also no future visas or green cards due to fraud!

If ANYONE has been in this situation PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE email me or respond to this and give me some advice, I have a divorce / immigration attorney, even they don’t want to help…. I’m not sure if they can and I know it’s also motivated by money they can make off of me… All they want to do is the divorce L L

Hey Pat

Sorry it all happened to you and can't imagine what you needed to go through.

You can check forums here and search similar cases, not the first one and not the last one for sure.

But. It looks like you did everything possible from your side. Divorce (which will take some time to finalize right?), report to DHS/USCIS.

You can definitely try to send some evidence if any to back your claims in your letter.

Legally that's all you can do pretty much and that's the reason why attorneys will not help you.

She's permanent resident as of now and that's for DHS to decide to give his/her 10y GC or not.

On a bright side at least no one abused your affidavit of support.

Edited September 6, 2016 by zorus40k

[Cheezees 1,514]

Your fellow VJ forum members are going off of the posts that you have provided, telling you what you should do, what can or cannot be done, what should have should not have been done and why. We have seen many many many posts like yours and offered similar advice. Because you are upset and maybe don't like the advice you are hearing, you choose to attack and demean the very people who are trying to help you. What a disgusting response about Trumph and "1/2 the people on this board". This site is NOT for people like you. Go away!

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

You were given advice already. Follow it.