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How to go about providing chats/sms evidence when you are arguing alot?

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Guyana
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well when you go for interview you have to take lots of evidence. some of that is normally bbm/sms chats. However, is it a good idea to take that if in those chats you are normally arguing and fighting alot? It will seem bad right? But if you take NONE wouldn't it look suspicious? whats your advises on this delicate matter?? take those crazy chats or none at all? well in case you are wondering why there is alot of arguments in these chats well it just happens and then things are ok after that. But an outsider will misunderstand completely.


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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Kosova
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well when you go for interview you have to take lots of evidence. some of that is normally bbm/sms chats. However, is it a good idea to take that if in those chats you are normally arguing and fighting alot? It will seem bad right? But if you take NONE wouldn't it look suspicious? whats your advises on this delicate matter?? take those crazy chats or none at all? well in case you are wondering why there is alot of arguments in these chats well it just happens and then things are ok after that. But an outsider will misunderstand completely.

Do you mean arguing or healthy discussions? I think people can have animated discussions about things but remain civil and not bash each other. So I guess what I'm trying to say is, are these actual fights or just discussions? How do you get along in person?


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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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In the petition we excluded the chats were we fought, anything pg rated or something LOL.. It would be best if you print out the chat logs where you professed your love for each other. It worked for us. When I went for my interview I brought more chat logs and screen shots but the Consular didn't even bother to look at it.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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married couples are human and have disagreements i don't see anything worng with including a couple to show the USCIS that you can agree to disagree and work things through respectfully with eachother. If they are arguments with insults and accusations than I would leave them out.



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No one is going to want to read thru someone elses chat history, let alone a history of fighting.

I'd leave anything like that out, period. Stick with the good stuff. Hopefully you have more of that than the bad!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Providing chat logs is the way to proceed. If applicable and feasible, be sure that any inflammatory message titles are not included.


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09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

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01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Algeria
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...is it a good idea to take that if in those chats you are normally arguing and fighting alot? It will seem bad right? But if you take NONE wouldn't it look suspicious?

This implies you never have good chats or sms messages. Surely you must have some good ones? Just use those.

If you do not have any, I would say you have other things to worry about as well.

Try to focus and find all the positive proof you have - maybe facebook posts, pictures, notarized letters from family and friends, etc. and best of luck!

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Filed: Other Country: China
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well when you go for interview you have to take lots of evidence. some of that is normally bbm/sms chats. However, is it a good idea to take that if in those chats you are normally arguing and fighting alot? It will seem bad right? But if you take NONE wouldn't it look suspicious? whats your advises on this delicate matter?? take those crazy chats or none at all? well in case you are wondering why there is alot of arguments in these chats well it just happens and then things are ok after that. But an outsider will misunderstand completely.

Be selective in choosing the examples you bring.


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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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anything pg rated or something LOL..

I was thinking about whether to include our online chats because some of them had some things that were not for general audiences ;-)


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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Guyana
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ok this makes sense. yea we don't have major disagreements mostly about silly things that we laugh about later. I am going to pick out some of the nice chats. thanks for the feedback.

I do wish to add that when arguing with a woman its seems like it will never end :no:


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Although this article is about Stokes interviews rather than regular relationship evidence for a petition, I did find it amusing and informative, especially on the topic of arguing for USCIS officials. In one case cited near the end of the article, the bickering just served to further the authenticity of the relationship in the officials' minds!

http://www.nytimes.c...?pagewanted=all

The point is, be authentic in your evidence and the bonafide relationship will be easier to note.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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<br />Be selective in choosing the examples you bring.<br />
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I agree, don't provide intimate details.


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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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I was thinking about whether to include our online chats because some of them had some things that were not for general audiences ;-)

I would leave out the some that have "things that are not for general audiences."


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September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
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April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
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September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
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September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
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November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Thailand
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My wife brought chat logs and emails to the interview and the officer there did go through and read through some of them. I was told to not include anything in these that you would not someone else reading. More specifically I was told not to include any comments where we talked about sex or money. I was told that you did not want the officer to think that i just wanted her for sex and she just wanted me for money. This was actually quite difficult, since what couple does not talk about sex and money. And that stuff was in and around quite a few of the "approved" topics that I wanted to include. It was quite difficult. Fortunately I am a software engineer and am quite adept at editing things like that. :whistle:


3-5-2011: I-129F Sent

3-9-2011: NOA1

6-24-2011: NOA2

6-30-2011: NOA2 Hard Copy

7-19-2011: Received Case Number from NVC

08-08-2011: Sent Packet 3 to Embassy

09-12-2011: Received Packet 4 Instructions

09-28-2011: Interview: Approved

10-06-2011: Point of Entry

11-03-2011: Married

AOS:

11-17-2011: Filed AOS Packet

12-09-2011: AOS Check Cashed

01-01-2012: Biometrics

01-31-2012: Received EAD

07-20-2012: AOS Approved

08-01-2012: Received Green Card

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