How do i make this sound good?

[Regan L 1]

Heres the story, im sponsoring my wife and i dont make enough money to sponsor her here on my own, so my grandpa said he would think about it. He says he wants to know what he is getting into first b4 he signs anything. hes a stubborn man so i have to make this joint sponsor thing sound as simple and least risky as possible, basically, i need to make it sound like its not a big deal. Otherwise ill never see my wife and my baby thats being born in 2 months. I am 19 btw and work as hard as i can but cant meet the amount of money required to sponsor her. I would never take advantage of my grandpa and am not tricking him. Its simply the only way. Ive asked everyone and noone else will even consider it. I would never even beging to dream about applying orrecieving any type of aid from anyone that might be counted as being a pubilc charge. I would stay completely away from all of that aid. I would be nervous even to apply for aid i knew she was allowed to get. I would never run the risk of putting him in a position were he would have to pay anythign back. I need a way to phrase the joint sponsorship role in a very veyr positive light while still letting him know that its not to be taken too lightly. Can anyone help me out, like i said hes stubborn, i only have one chance at this, id like the cumination of all of your ideas. Thank you in advance, btw could any of you tell me exactly what supporting documents he would need to submit along with his I-864 because im getting mixed messages as far as what he should include.

[Ryan H 3,812]

Since he wants to know what he's getting into, have him read the contract portion of the form. Terms such as "simple", "least risky", and "not a big deal" do not apply to joint sponsorship. It's a huge responsibility and not one that should be entered into lightly.

Edited July 19, 2012 by Ryan H

[calibob 73]

Full disclosure is the best so show him the forms and fill him in on your life, you'll earn GPa's respect for openness and honesty. May not get his sponsorship but will show you have some maturity. Maybe you might learn a thing or two from Gpa along the way. Good luck....

Bob

[Penguin_ie 5,994]

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It is a big deal Op, and unless your granpa isn't very bright, he will realise that.

What you can focus on that if your wife falls on hard times, they will come after you first, not your grandpa. So if your grandpa has faith in you and you getting a better paying job soon,k he will hopefully have nothing to worry about.

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

To start with one of you is signing up to pay for the birth of the baby if you wife is here when she gives birth. That is a huge expense.

[belinda63 3,038]

The baby would be a USC so it would be eligible for benefits, although not a great way to start a new life and marriage. Gramps needs to read the contract (never sign anything without reading it) and understand that if she receives any means tested benefits they could come after you first and him if they can't get the money from you. The contract remains in effect until she has 40 quarters of qualifying work, becomes a citizen, dies, or loses her green card so it could potentially be for life. Even if things do not work out and you divorce it does not negate the contract.

[Anh map 2,098]

He has to sign the sponsor's contract, so all the obligations are set out there for him to read.

What you can tell him is that you are the primary sponsor and only if you cannot satisfy any obligation will he be pursued.

[JohnR! 5,495]

In addition to what others said here, my suggestions is that you take the form to your grandpa and read the fine print with him. It will also give you and him the opportunity to find out what it is he is NOT getting into. Have your computer with you and take him to the site of the USCIS so he can learn what all is involved. In other words, help him understand and feel he is a part of something and not only a signature in a piece of paper. Share your journey with him, in other words.

Good luck!

[dwheels76 5,468]

In addition to what others said here, my suggestions is that you take the form to your grandpa and read the fine print with him. It will also give you and him the opportunity to find out what it is he is NOT getting into. Have your computer with you and take him to the site of the USCIS so he can learn what all is involved. In other words, help him understand and feel he is a part of something and not only a signature in a piece of paper. Share your journey with him, in other words.

Good luck!

Share the journey. Excellent.

[Ning 619]

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It is a big deal Op, and unless your granpa isn't very bright, he will realise that.

What you can focus on that if your wife falls on hard times, they will come after you first, not your grandpa. So if your grandpa has faith in you and you getting a better paying job soon,k he will hopefully have nothing to worry about.

Unless Granpa isnt very bright? That sounds better than what I said and you removed?

[LSnBigBear 61]

I like what dwwheels said :-) being honest and open is the best. You're young and the economy is bad so if you are a go getter then you will earn enough to support her. I was young and poor just starting out at your age with my first son many years ago. Just make sure you are ready for this when your wife is here. marriage is hard enough and having money issues makes it worse. Even at my age of 46 I waited some 9 months after leaving my fiancee so i Knew i had a steady job and enough money to cover all te expenses coming up with her travels AOS etc. Just food for thought. I know you are in tough position. Everyone wants to be with teir loved ones. Good luck with Grandpa andnyour Journey

[Mike B. 231]

Regan,

I've been following your posts, such as when you refused to read any information provided by USCIS, complained that people on here were being mean when they suggested you read the guides, and asked if one of us would put all of our life savings at risk by sponsoring you, someone we don't know, so you could continue to study. Now you are essentially asking for advice on how to mislead your grandfather into signing something.

When I was your age, I was a totally immature wreck who spent my time sitting around drinking and goofing off, so I'm not one to judge. That being said, you're a married man and you are going to be a father in two months. My honest-to-god advice to you is to man up and approach these problems like a mature adult. Mature adults don't run around trying to downplay what their grandfather is getting into, nor do they say "the entire future of my family is on the line, but screw it, I don't want to have to sit around reading this #######!" Mature adults take charge of the situation and do whatever they have to do to make sure their family has it as good as it can get.

I don't know what the solution to all of your problems it, and I wish you the best in resolving them, but it seems to me that you need to adopt a new attitude.

[lierre 224]

Listen to what everyone's been saying.

This USCIS thing is a HUGE DEAL.

[pam_ellis 0]

Look,

I have a Greek father in law, so he is VERY stubborn and not that easy with money.... well, he was my co-sponsor and my AOS was accepted last week.

What he did to convince himself it was not a big deal was see a lawyer, he took the contract there and asked his risks and doubts. He saw it was not that big deal for him, it's just til your wife becomes a USC, she can do that i guess in 3 yrs and well, it's only if she claims for benefits for the U.S gov. So make sure she wont.

this contract it's between the U.S gov. and your co-sponsor, so if your wife asks the U.S gov. for help for food and medication, the gov. will say:" ok, gonna get the money from your Co-sponsor and give it to you".

That's what i understood. Well, ask your Grandpa to see a lawyer and get it explained to him =)

Good luck!

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

The baby would be a USC so it would be eligible for benefits, although not a great way to start a new life and marriage. Gramps needs to read the contract (never sign anything without reading it) and understand that if she receives any means tested benefits they could come after you first and him if they can't get the money from you. The contract remains in effect until she has 40 quarters of qualifying work, becomes a citizen, dies, or loses her green card so it could potentially be for life. Even if things do not work out and you divorce it does not negate the contract.

The baby would be covered by the mother not. One C section can wipe out lots of savings