"High fraud" and "Low fraud" countries.

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

MENA is middle east north africa

High fraud is any place where people for economic/social/political/religious/terrorism reasons would see fit to dupe a USC into believe a romantic relationship exists solely for the purpose of gaining access to life in the US. The country is higher fraud is there is a wide access to fake documents and the country has poor record keeping habits making these forged documents harder to detect. For example many Nigerians have multiple Nigerian passports in more than one name .

[Peter_Pan 661]

As a petitioner whose fiance is from a "high fraud" country I do sometimes feel it's unfair to punish everyone for the bad behavior of a few.

I'd like to see a statistics about how few they really are.

[TBoneTX 43,157]

Which countries are considered "high" and which countries are considered "low?"

A few years ago, when we were being hosed by the evil, ####### Guayaquil consulate, I asked an immigration attorney this exact question. (He had himself served as a CO in Yemen and Aruba.) His quick reply was "Any poor country." He went on to say that of course there's no list, although Nigeria is #1.

[CaroSL 68]

What are the MENA countries and what does MENA mean?

Middle East and North Africa.

[CaroSL 68]

There is no such thing. Except in the imagination of VJ posters. There also is no "NOA1" or "NOA2" More VJ lingo.

each consulate is empowered to handle the issuance of visas as they see fit to insure that the process is not abused. Different consulates apply different rules, procedures and expectations. Ths is specifically allowed by law and by Department of State policy.

The terms "high fraud" and "low fraud" do not exist in any "list" nor in any government procedure. There are consulates generally more difficult to deal with, some are VERY difficult to deal with and the reasons are determined by the consulate.

Read the consulate reviews for the consulate you will use. Ignore any fabricated terms like "high fraud" and concentrate on the experiences of people and what to expect.

Yes, I guess we tend to use "VJ lingo" as gary put it, to make things more simple when we post... Saves us time, but is not always so accurate. Thanks for pointing out Gary (as I do that myself, I'll be more careful now, cause when I think about it, I don't really like that "high fraud" vs "low fraud" either...)

[awesome87 0]

girls from India are the highest in doing fraud.

[Jan and Joan 0]

Middle East and North Africa.

thanks for enlightening me

[lunaboriken 2]

I know it's crazy to think this way. When my husband and I started our journey we weren't married yet but we dated 2 years. We went to an Immigration lawyer for a consultation since we had No idea how this works at all. After getting our basic information, the first thing the Lawyer asked was if I was paid by his family or anyone to get him the green card. I was like "what!?" why would you think that!? I said no.

She then explained that my country was on the list of high fraud and I would need to be very careful with the process. I couldn't believe what she said. She told me it's very common in my country for people to pay the process plus commission to the bride or groom to go through visa process.

I was so upset. Thanks to the people who do these things, those like me who are clear have to go through these high alert procedures.

My husband and I did the process without the lawyer and everything was approved fine. When you are clear about what you are doing there is nothing to fear.

What to know country?.... Puerto Rico.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Puerto Rico is not a country...

[reese1 68]

Puerto Rico is not a country...

It is a U.S. territory and its people are U.S. citizens.

[loladolly 51]

France, i think i am fine ! And yea this is a country i wouldn't want to leave but i do it for my fiance and because he is taking forever to learn french.

[CaroSL 68]

and because he is taking forever to learn french.

I am with you on this...

[GodsGift225 54]

There is no such thing. Except in the imagination of VJ posters. There also is no "NOA1" or "NOA2" More VJ lingo.

each consulate is empowered to handle the issuance of visas as they see fit to insure that the process is not abused. Different consulates apply different rules, procedures and expectations. Ths is specifically allowed by law and by Department of State policy.

The terms "high fraud" and "low fraud" do not exist in any "list" nor in any government procedure. There are consulates generally more difficult to deal with, some are VERY difficult to deal with and the reasons are determined by the consulate.

Read the consulate reviews for the consulate you will use. Ignore any fabricated terms like "high fraud" and concentrate on the experiences of people and what to expect.

:thumbs: Very well said!

[Boiler 43,541]

France, i think i am fine ! And yea this is a country i wouldn't want to leave but i do it for my fiance and because he is taking forever to learn french.

He can always practice when checking out from Home Depot.

[bsd058 296]

I think USCIS would define high fraud countries as those countries with a high rate of fraud. The causes are outlined in this thread, like lower standards of living, government corruption, below standard healthcare, etc.. But the actual definition would have to be that these countries actually have high rates of immigration fraud. The stats would probably indicate this, and therefore they scrutinize beneficiaries from these countries more than lower fraud countries. It's not the beneficiaries' fault, but it's not USCIS' fault either either. And they must make sure fraud is not being committed for the sake of society and the individuals involved. It's their job.

Anyway, it makes sense. Sucks that there has to be such a high percentage of people who wish to enter the US in a dishonest manner, but blame them, not USCIS.