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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Japan
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My wifes green card expired 1/03/2022.  The 2 year Extension I-90 expired 1/03/2024. During the 4 years of the 2 year Green Card and 2 year Extensions she has traveled back to Japan about 8 or 9 times to see her mother.

Her mother died last week and without a thought we booked her flight for the following morning and off she went.  She was supposed to return yesterday but due to the fact the Green Card and i-90 expired on 01/03/2024 obviously she is not here with me or I would not be typing this right now.

1st thing she did was go to the US Embassy in Tokyo Japan, they told her to go on the USCIS website and file a form I-131.  

I called USCIS and they told me that is not the form needed and to go on the US Embassy website and find the correct form there.

They would not tell me what form to file.

Then I called back and they said to schedule an appointment, but you can not make the appointment from here in the US and there is no link on the website to make an appointment either... kind of like the old man joke in Coming to America--- "Where's the spoon... Aaaahaaaaa"

 

I filed a form DS-160, Hope that's the correct form.

 

I have never had a problem with this process but now I am super pissed off.

 

Has anyone had an issue with leaving the US with an expired Green Card and how did you get back or get an exception?

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The I-131a is the correct form from USCIS  to apply for a boarding foil.  

Application for Carrier Documentation | USCIS

 

Lost or Stolen Green Cards - U.S. Embassy & Consulates in Japan (usembassy.gov)

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

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Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

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August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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21 minutes ago, Zumbadaddy said:

During the 4 years of the 2 year Green Card and 2 year Extensions she has traveled back to Japan about 8 or 9 times to see her mother.

She should have gotten a 4 year extension letter after filing an I-751 for removal of conditions.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

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August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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4 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

The I-131a is the correct form from USCIS  to apply for a boarding foil.  

Application for Carrier Documentation | USCIS

 

Lost or Stolen Green Cards - U.S. Embassy & Consulates in Japan (usembassy.gov)

 

 

This was recommended as well by 1 USCIS rep but another rep said not because her Green Card was not Lost or stolen.

Just now, Crazy Cat said:

She should have gotten a 4 year extension letter after filing an I-751 for removal of conditions.

The USCIS website on her account says its pending and only 6 more months to go.

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29 minutes ago, Zumbadaddy said:

 

 

This was recommended as well by 1 USCIS rep but another rep said not because her Green Card was not Lost or stolen.

If I understand the situation, she has an expired 2 year Green Card and an expired extension letter.  If so, she cannot, to my knowledge, board without a boarding foil.  

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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4 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

If I understand the situation, she has an expired 2 year Green Card and an expired extension letter.  If so, she cannot board without a boarding foil.  

How do we get the boarding foil?

Will she be able to travel back in 6-8 weeks?- see below

 

And here's another issue. 

 

She has to go back to Japan end of April to finalize her mothers funeral ceremony... this custom requires a final ceremony 49 days after the cremation and obviously she wants to comply with her mothers wishes, and it's not an option for me to say no to her.

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3 minutes ago, Zumbadaddy said:

How do we get the boarding foil?

Follow the procedure under "How to apply":

Lost or Stolen Green Cards - U.S. Embassy & Consulates in Japan (usembassy.gov)

 

It instructs you to go here for an appointment: Boarding Foil Appointment Request Form - U.S. Embassy & Consulates in Japan (usembassy.gov)

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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21 minutes ago, Zumbadaddy said:

She has to go back to Japan end of April to finalize her mothers funeral ceremony..

She will need either a valid extension to accompany the expired Green Card...or she needs to get an ADIT stamp from USCIS in order to return after that trip. 

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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19 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

She will need either a valid extension to accompany the expired Green Card...or she needs to get an ADIT stamp from USCIS in order to return. 

Is the boarding foil another $575.00 fee?

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4 minutes ago, Zumbadaddy said:

Is the boarding foil another $575.00 fee?

Filing Fee
$575.

There is no biometric services fee. Anyone may pay this fee from anywhere in the world, as long as they enter the correct first and last names, date of birth, and A-Number because this information will appear on your boarding foil. You can find this information on your Green Card, reentry permit or advance parole document. Whoever pays the fee must pay through our online payment system using a credit or debit card or U.S. bank account.

When you send a payment, you agree to pay for a government service. Filing and biometric service fees are final and non-refundable, regardless of any action we take on your application, petition, or request, or if you withdraw your request.

Pay each filing fee separately. We are transitioning to electronically processing immigration benefit requests, which requires us to use multiple systems to process your package. Because of this, you must pay each filing fee separately for any form you submit. We may reject your entire package if you submit a single, combined payment for multiple forms.

If you receive an error message when paying the fee, you should contact a Consular Section at a U.S. Embassy or Consulate with the error message for assistance. You cannot use a fee waiver for this form.

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Can't she just file the I-90 and bring the receipt with the expired GC with her to the PoE? That's what some LPRs do when returning to the US with expired GCs. 

03/04/2016 AOS (EB2-NIW concurrent with I-485) mailed to Lewisville TX Lockbox
03/07/2016 AOS delivered to USCIS and signed
03/12/2016 Case received by Nebraska Service Center (NSC)
03/14/2016 Text notification received for I-140/I-485/I-765/I-131.
04/08/2016 Biometrics notice received for 04/21
04/13/2016 Biometrics early walk-in completed.
04/15/2016 EAD/AP combo card received in mail.

 

Long wait begins...

 

11/04/2016 I-140/485 cases transferred from Nebraska to TCS
12/01/2016 Prepared package for EAD/AP renewal (expires 04/09/2017)
12/23/2016 USCIS suddenly changes several forms, invalidating my EAD/AP renewal package (not yet sent)
12/27/2016 USCIS suddenly reforms the entire NIW criteria system, replacing a 20 years old one. Uncharted waters. 
01/07/2017 (Saturday!) EAD/AP renewal package with new forms received in Phoenix "reception desk"
01/17/2017 EAD/AP renewal case accepted; text/email with receipt numbers was received
01/30/2017 Law firm finally confirms that USCIS has suspended processing all EB2-NIW cases due to new criteria. 
02/23/2017 USCIS slowly starts adjudicating NIW cases again.
04/21/2017 Extended EAD/AP received in mail. Valid for 2 years. 
05/06/2017 Received a massive RFE on I-140 NIW case.
07/20/2017 RFE response received by USCIS (a very long response with 30 pages of docs)
09/14/2017 I-140 NIW approved!!! 
11/28/2017 RFE for new medical issued (plus another request re Supp J for employment which is clearly issued in error)
12/04/2017 RFE received in mail
12/07/2017 repeated medical exam for I-485
12/08/2017 Attorney receives documents for responding to I-485 RFE
12/21/2017 Response to RFE received by USCIS 
02/09/2018 I-485 approval (text, email) :)
02/08/2018 I-485 approval notice issued (the "welcome letter") - I'm LPR now
02/16/2018 Green card received
 
11/14/2022 Filed N-400 online; receipt and biometrics reuse form received online
03/07/2023 N-400 Interview scheduled 
04/xx/2023 N-400 approved, same-day Oath ceremony completed. I'm a US citizen.
05/xx/2023 US passport in hand

 

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11 minutes ago, randomstairs said:

Can't she just file the I-90 and bring the receipt with the expired GC with her to the PoE? That's what some LPRs do when returning to the US with expired GCs. 

What's LPR?

 

This is the 1st I'm hearing of this.

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17 minutes ago, randomstairs said:

Can't she just file the I-90 and bring the receipt with the expired GC with her to the PoE? That's what some LPRs do when returning to the US with expired GCs. 

The I90 Expired 01/03/2024 3 months ago. 

I-90 Application to Replace Permanent Resident Card

Submitted on November 5, 2021Receipt # IOE98049XXX123
View PDF

Your next milestone: receive your case decision.

Time until decision:

approx. 6 months

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10 minutes ago, Zumbadaddy said:

The I90 Expired 01/03/2024 3 months ago. 

I-90 Application to Replace Permanent Resident Card

Submitted on November 5, 2021Receipt # IOE98049XXX123
View PDF

Your next milestone: receive your case decision.

Time until decision:

approx. 6 months

Wait a minute.....Why was an I-90 filed?  Wasn't this a 2 year Green Card?  Your timeline seems to indicate she received a 2 year card.

 

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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