Criminal record and dual citizenship

[Genzo10 16]

My fiancé asked for the criminal record of his country of origin but he never lived there, he just has the nationality by his parents. He was born and has always lived in France.

 

You think he doesn't need it for the interview?

 

Thank you

[Mike E 11,740]

The embassy asked for it explicitly?

[Genzo10 16]

1 minute ago, Mike E said:

The embassy asked for it explicitly?

 

No, i read on website only for country where we lived more than 6 months.

 

 

[Crazy Cat 41,981]

1 hour ago, Genzo10 said:

he just has the nationality by his parents. He was born and has always lived in France.

Then, why would he need a police report from a place he has never lived?

[Genzo10 16]

10 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Then, why would he need a police report from a place he has never lived?

He did not know and asked but we wanted to be sure.

[Lil bear 4,252]

15 minutes ago, Genzo10 said:

He did not know and asked but we wanted to be sure.

As confusing as the official instructions are .. they are accurate and complete when read fully. But I'm pretty sure we all understand how you feel… i well remember the head spinning and panic thoughts that try to take hold ! 

[Crazy Cat 41,981]

20 minutes ago, Genzo10 said:

He did not know and asked but we wanted to be sure.

Thanks.  I had to think about that question for a while, myself.  Good luck on your journey.....

[Genzo10 16]

3 minutes ago, Lil bear said:

As confusing as the official instructions are .. they are accurate and complete when read fully. But I'm pretty sure we all understand how you feel… i well remember the head spinning and panic thoughts that try to take hold ! 

 

1 minute ago, Crazy Cat said:

Thanks.  I had to think about that question for a while, myself.  Good luck on your journey.....

 

Thank you

[SteveInBostonI130 3,467]

3 hours ago, Genzo10 said:

My fiancé asked for the criminal record of his country of origin but he never lived there, he just has the nationality by his parents. He was born and has always lived in France.

 

You think he doesn't need it for the interview?

 

Thank you

No.

 

Per US State Department:  https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/the-immigrant-visa-process/step-5-collect-financial-evidence-and-other-supporting-documents/step-7-collect-civil-documents.html

 

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If you are 16 years of age or older, you must obtain a photocopy of a police certificate from all countries you have lived in using below criteria:

If you ...	AND you...	THEN submit a police certificate from...
Are 16 years old or older	Lived in your country of nationality for more than 6 months at any time in your life	Your country of nationality
Are 16 years old or older	Have lived in your country of current residence (if different from nationality) for more than 6 months	Your country of current residence
Have ever lived in another country for 12 months or more	Were 16 years or older at the time you lived there	The country where you used to live.
Were arrested for any reason, regardless of how long you lived in that city or country, and no matter what age you were		The city and/or country where you were arrested.

Note: Present and former residents of the United States do NOT need to submit any U.S. police certificates.

Important: Police certificates expire after two years, unless the certificate was issued from your country of previous residence and you have not returned there since the police certificate was issued.

 

 

[JeanneAdil 6,559]

he will have a French birth certificate and his passport will show he didn't live elsewhere

my nieces born in France also say Moroccan nationality but never lived there

your fiancee can go thru the process to apply for French citizenship if he does not already have it/ u can apply when u have lived there 5 continuous years

brother in law just did that for his oldest daughter

 

[Genzo10 16]

5 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

he will have a French birth certificate and his passport will show he didn't live elsewhere

my nieces born in France also say Moroccan nationality but never lived there

your fiancee can go thru the process to apply for French citizenship if he does not already have it/ u can apply when u have lived there 5 continuous years

brother in law just did that for his oldest daughter

 

 

He has french citizenship because born in France but other citizenship from his parents. About passports he does not have old passports only new.

[JeanneAdil 6,559]

1 minute ago, Genzo10 said:

 

He has french citizenship because born in France but other citizenship from his parents. About passports he does not have old passports only new.

My nieces did not as both parents were Moroccan so they have to apply after 5 years of age

 

[Mike E 11,740]

3 hours ago, Genzo10 said:

 

No, i read on website only for country where we lived more than 6 months.

 

 

Then I am puzzled why you created this topic.  
 

1. He never lived there so the following the website he doesn’t need a police certificate from there.  
 

2. I can tell you from experience that what the website says about places where a K-1 has flies and general conventional wisdom are not always correct:

 

* First, a licensed immigration attorney on the California state bar and a member of AILA explained to me that as K-1 is a non immigrant visa, Congress does not require police certificates.  This does not mean an embassy or consulate cannot require police certificates 

 

* Second, each embassy and consulate has their own policy.
 

 I made the mistake of following state department policy and conventional wisdom and sent my fiancée on a Grand Tour of all the places she lived in for 6 months or more for the past 20 years.  Plane tickets.  Hotels.  Police Fees.  “Special” fees (wink wink) were paid. It took weeks for the ink on my fiancée’s lovely finger tips to wash off. She got fabulous photos from her sentimental journey and so many likes on her FB 

 

She then took these half dozen or so beautiful police certificates to an attorney for a notarial translate complete with that all important gold seal that impresses paper pushers.  To say that these were art pieces truly under states their grandeur.  
 

Finally we were ready to request a visa interview.  We got a response.  After reviewing her case they determined they only needed the police certificate from the city she was currently living.  Literally the police station was a 5 minute walk from her home. 
 

I said to her, “but that can’t be right because several  weeks prior they said they wanted all these certificates”. So I weighed her down with the excess certificates. She brought them to the embassy. And walked back out with them, as the CO was not interested.  
 

I still have these beautiful works of art with their equally grand translations. Every once in a while I remove them from the bound folder I bought especially to safe guard these treasures  to admire them.    I mean I paid $5000 for them, so it’s my bloody right to enjoy them.  
 

So, my advice is to not worry about police certificates until it is time to worry about police certificates.  

Edited May 7, 2022 by Mike E