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My husband is filing his N400 paperwork.  We filed the Removal of Condition paperwork like 2 1/2 years ago and are still waiting for an interview.  We will be filing the N400 paperwork and asking them to adjudicate the two cases at the same time.

 

Do we need to include evidence of our marriage with the N400 in this situation?  I saw somewhere that we do, but am not sure….

 

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Hello radrac,

 

the supporting documents required for the N-400 are slightly different than those of the I-751 Removal of Conditions. 2-1/2 yes seems a lot to me, there has to be something off about this situation, I recommend contacting USCIS about your I-751 case, do you know what's the current status of it as of now? And what is your filing office where you sent your forms and documents?

 

the document checklist for the N-400 Naturalization is below,  please review it and send the required copies not the original. 

 

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/guides/M-477.pdf

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If he is filing under the 3 year rule, then yes.   Refer to this checklist

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/guides/M-477.pdf

 

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August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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23 minutes ago, Zak0204 said:

Hello radrac,

 

the supporting documents required for the N-400 are slightly different than those of the I-751 Removal of Conditions. 2-1/2 yes seems a lot to me, there has to be something off about this situation, I recommend contacting USCIS about your I-751 case, do you know what's the current status of it as of now? And what is your filing office where you sent your forms and documents?

 

the document checklist for the N-400 Naturalization is below,  please review it and send the required copies not the original. 

 

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/guides/M-477.pdf

Unfortunately, the i751 processing times are averaging 22-38 months….  We are through the Nebraska Service Center.  Status is: Currently Awaiting Interview.  But none has been scheduled yet.  Thanks for the info!

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1 minute ago, radrac said:

Unfortunately, the i751 processing times are averaging 22-38 months….  We are through the Nebraska Service Center.  Status is: Currently Awaiting Interview.  But none has been scheduled yet.  Thanks for the info!

We filed my wife's I-751 in late March of 2019.  We are still waiting for the interview, too.

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Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

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August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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41 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

If he is filing under the 3 year rule, then yes.   Refer to this checklist

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/guides/M-477.pdf

 

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Hi! Not the OP, but we plan on filing under the 3 year rule for my husband later this month. Can you tell me if we need to send the piles and piles and piles of these documents trying to prove a genuine marriage like we did for I-751 or is it literally just 3 years of IRS transcripts is all that's required like the list makes it seem? It seems like filing N-400 is easier, but I dont know if I am missing something somewhere? Thanks for the help!

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3 minutes ago, sumbunny said:

Hi! Not the OP, but we plan on filing under the 3 year rule for my husband later this month. Can you tell me if we need to send the piles and piles and piles of these documents trying to prove a genuine marriage like we did for I-751 or is it literally just 3 years of IRS transcripts is all that's required like the list makes it seem? It seems like filing N-400 is easier, but I dont know if I am missing something somewhere? Thanks for the help!

When we file my wife's N-400, I plan to send the items on the checklist.  I don't plan to include all the items we sent for ROC.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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4 minutes ago, radrac said:

I have a new question:  my husband came on a K1 in Dec 2016.  He got his 2 year GC in Aug of 2017.  So what do we file as?  Does the 3 year rule apply based on when he got his green card or when he entered the US?  
 

Based on his GC, it will be 4 1/2 years…

Date of Green Card approval.  He was not a legal resident until the Green card was approved.

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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10 minutes ago, sumbunny said:

Hi! Not the OP, but we plan on filing under the 3 year rule for my husband later this month. Can you tell me if we need to send the piles and piles and piles of these documents trying to prove a genuine marriage like we did for I-751 or is it literally just 3 years of IRS transcripts is all that's required like the list makes it seem? It seems like filing N-400 is easier, but I dont know if I am missing something somewhere? Thanks for the help!

This is a great question. My understanding is that it's either OR the items in the list, so the evidence should not be nearly as bulky as the ROC evidence.

FROM F1 TO AOS

October 17, 2019 AOS receipt date 

December 09, 2019: Biometric appointment

January 15, 2020 RFE received

January 30, 2020  RFE response sent

Feb 7: EAD approved and interview scheduled

March 18, 2020 Interview cancelled

April 14th 2020: RFE received

April 29, 2020 Approved without interview

May 1, 2020 Card in hand

 

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

February 1, 2022 package sent

March 28, 2022 Fingerprints reused

July 18, 2023 approval

July 20, 2023 Card in hand

 

N400 

January 30,2023: Online filing

February 4th, 2023: Biometric appointment

June 15th, 2023: Case actively being reviewed

July 11th, 2023: Interview scheduled.

August 30th, 2023: Interview!

August 31st, 2023: Oath ceremony scheduled.

Sept 19th, 2023: Officially a US citizen!

 


 

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51 minutes ago, sumbunny said:

Hi! Not the OP, but we plan on filing under the 3 year rule for my husband later this month. Can you tell me if we need to send the piles and piles and piles of these documents trying to prove a genuine marriage like we did for I-751 or is it literally just 3 years of IRS transcripts is all that's required like the list makes it seem? It seems like filing N-400 is easier, but I dont know if I am missing something somewhere? Thanks for the help!

We only sent the required information based on the N400 Instructions.  The material is separated as to what needs to be submitted and what needs to be available for the interview.  We filed by mail, but many that file online upload all the interview material.

 

1 hour ago, Crazy Cat said:

If he is filing under the 3 year rule, then yes.   Refer to this checklist

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/guides/M-477.pdf

 

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Just more confusion from USCIS.  In the N400 instructions, this information is only requested for the interview.  My wife only submitted the required evidence and was fine (1 and 4 did not apply to her).  She brought all the other stuff to the interview where the IO ignored it all, but that may have been because the IO had the complete I751 package on her desk.

 

Below is a list of documents to submit with your Form N-400.

1. Photographs. Only applicants who reside overseas must provide two identical color photographs of yourself taken recently. The photos must have a white to off-white background, be printed on thin paper with a glossy finish, and be unmounted and unretouched. Passport-style photos must be 2” x 2”. The photos must be in color with full face, frontal view on a white to off-white background. Head height should measure 1” to 1 3/8” from top of hair to bottom of chin, and eye height is between 1 1/8” to 1 3/8” from bottom of photo. Your head must be bare, unless contrary to your religious beliefs. Using a pencil or felt pen, lightly print your name and A-Number (if any) on the back of the photo.

2. Photocopy of Permanent Resident Card. Provide a photocopy of the front and back of your Form I-551 (Permanent Resident Card). USCIS must be able to read the information on the photocopy. If you have lost your Form I-551, attach a photocopy of any other entry document or a photocopy of a receipt showing that you have filed Form I-90, Application to Replace Permanent Resident Card.

3. Photocopy of your Current Legal Marital Status Document. Provide a photocopy of your current marriage certificate, divorce, annulment decree, or death certificate of former spouse. 4. Documents for Military Personnel or Spouses of Military Personnel: A. Form N-426 (Request for Certification of Military or Naval Service). If you are a current member of the U.S. Armed Forces, provide a completed and certified Form N-426. If you are separated from the military, provide an uncertified Form N-426.

 

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/forms/n-400instr.pdf

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Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

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Timeline:

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AOS Journey:

Spoiler

 

08/19/2016 - day 0 - I-485, I-130, I-765 sent to USCIS office in Chicago (PD: 08/23/2016)

08/31/2016 - day 9 - electronic NOAs received via text and email, check is cashed.

09/08/2016 - day 17 - biometrics appointment notice received in the mail (appointment date 09/19/2016).

09/13/2016 - day 22 - early biometrics walk in.

10/28/2016 - day 67 - EAD status changed to "New Card Is Being Produced".

11/16/2016 - day 87 - EAD card received in mail.

06/27/2017 - day 309 - contacted the congressman office.

07/28/2017 - day 340 - finally received an interview appointment in mail (online status has not changed).

08/31/2017 - day 374 - Interview; I-485 status changed to 'New Card Is Being Produced'

09/08/2017 - day 382 - greencard received in mail

I-751 & N400 Journey:

Spoiler

06/20/2019 - day 1036 - ROC packet mailed (PD: 06/21/2019)

06/29/2019 - day 1045 - NOA/Extension letter received in the mail (new GC expiration date is 2/28/2021)

01/17/2020 - day 1256 - biometrics appointment

06/03/2020 - day 1382 - N400 filed online (PD: 06/04/2020)

02/01/2021 - day 1626 - Biometric Reuse notice uploaded to my online account

02/08/2021 - day 1634 - Interview Appointment notice uploaded to my online account

03/16/2021 - day 1670 - N400 Interview - passed; due to I-751 stuck in another office 'No decision can be made at this time'

06/01/2021 - day 1747 - with help of Sen. Sanders' office, I-751 file finally forwarded to St. Albans field office

06/28/2021 - day 1774 - I-751 status changed to 'New Card is Being Produced'; N400 status changed to 'Oath Ceremony Will Be Scheduled'

08/19/2021 - day 1826 (exactly 5 years since day 0) - Oath Ceremony (notice received on 7/19/21)

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, sumbunny said:

Hi! Not the OP, but we plan on filing under the 3 year rule for my husband later this month. Can you tell me if we need to send the piles and piles and piles of these documents trying to prove a genuine marriage like we did for I-751 or is it literally just 3 years of IRS transcripts is all that's required like the list makes it seem? It seems like filing N-400 is easier, but I dont know if I am missing something somewhere? Thanks for the help!

We just filed N400 for my wife yesterday under the 3 year rule (still waiting on ROC). The amount of documentation is nowhere near the amount that was required for both K1 and the ROC. Apply online, and you can upload supporting documents right in the website. The online process is so much easier and convenient.

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4 hours ago, radrac said:

Unfortunately, the i751 processing times are averaging 22-38 months….  We are through the Nebraska Service Center.  Status is: Currently Awaiting Interview.  But none has been scheduled yet.  Thanks for the info!

That seems too long. On USCIS it says 16-32 months. I was in the Nebraska office too and mine just got approved in June 2021 after waiting 7 months only. And From talking to a bunch of others on here, 12-14 months seems the longest. Sorry you have had to wait so long!!

 

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