N400 filing while waiting for Removal of Conditions

[radrac 2]

Hi!

My husband is filing his N400 paperwork.  We filed the Removal of Condition paperwork like 2 1/2 years ago and are still waiting for an interview.  We will be filing the N400 paperwork and asking them to adjudicate the two cases at the same time.

 

Do we need to include evidence of our marriage with the N400 in this situation?  I saw somewhere that we do, but am not sure….

 

Thank you!!

[Zak0204 8]

Hello radrac,

 

the supporting documents required for the N-400 are slightly different than those of the I-751 Removal of Conditions. 2-1/2 yes seems a lot to me, there has to be something off about this situation, I recommend contacting USCIS about your I-751 case, do you know what's the current status of it as of now? And what is your filing office where you sent your forms and documents?

 

the document checklist for the N-400 Naturalization is below,  please review it and send the required copies not the original. 

 

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/guides/M-477.pdf

[Crazy Cat 41,976]

If he is filing under the 3 year rule, then yes.   Refer to this checklist

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/guides/M-477.pdf

 

[radrac 2]

23 minutes ago, Zak0204 said:

Hello radrac,

 

the supporting documents required for the N-400 are slightly different than those of the I-751 Removal of Conditions. 2-1/2 yes seems a lot to me, there has to be something off about this situation, I recommend contacting USCIS about your I-751 case, do you know what's the current status of it as of now? And what is your filing office where you sent your forms and documents?

 

the document checklist for the N-400 Naturalization is below,  please review it and send the required copies not the original. 

 

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/guides/M-477.pdf

Unfortunately, the i751 processing times are averaging 22-38 months….  We are through the Nebraska Service Center.  Status is: Currently Awaiting Interview.  But none has been scheduled yet.  Thanks for the info!

[Crazy Cat 41,976]

1 minute ago, radrac said:

Unfortunately, the i751 processing times are averaging 22-38 months….  We are through the Nebraska Service Center.  Status is: Currently Awaiting Interview.  But none has been scheduled yet.  Thanks for the info!

We filed my wife's I-751 in late March of 2019.  We are still waiting for the interview, too.

[radrac 2]

3 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

We filed my wife's I-751 in late March of 2019.  We are still waiting for the interview, too.

It’s crazy…. I hate being in limbo

[sumbunny 566]

41 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

If he is filing under the 3 year rule, then yes.   Refer to this checklist

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/guides/M-477.pdf

 

Hi! Not the OP, but we plan on filing under the 3 year rule for my husband later this month. Can you tell me if we need to send the piles and piles and piles of these documents trying to prove a genuine marriage like we did for I-751 or is it literally just 3 years of IRS transcripts is all that's required like the list makes it seem? It seems like filing N-400 is easier, but I dont know if I am missing something somewhere? Thanks for the help!

[radrac 2]

I have a new question:  my husband came on a K1 in Dec 2016.  He got his 2 year GC in Aug of 2017.  So what do we file as?  Does the 3 year rule apply based on when he got his green card or when he entered the US?  
 

Based on his GC, it will be 4 1/2 years…

[Crazy Cat 41,976]

3 minutes ago, sumbunny said:

Hi! Not the OP, but we plan on filing under the 3 year rule for my husband later this month. Can you tell me if we need to send the piles and piles and piles of these documents trying to prove a genuine marriage like we did for I-751 or is it literally just 3 years of IRS transcripts is all that's required like the list makes it seem? It seems like filing N-400 is easier, but I dont know if I am missing something somewhere? Thanks for the help!

When we file my wife's N-400, I plan to send the items on the checklist.  I don't plan to include all the items we sent for ROC.

[Crazy Cat 41,976]

4 minutes ago, radrac said:

I have a new question:  my husband came on a K1 in Dec 2016.  He got his 2 year GC in Aug of 2017.  So what do we file as?  Does the 3 year rule apply based on when he got his green card or when he entered the US?  
 

Based on his GC, it will be 4 1/2 years…

Date of Green Card approval.  He was not a legal resident until the Green card was approved.

Edited January 12, 2022 by Crazy Cat

[Rocio0010 5,579]

10 minutes ago, sumbunny said:

Hi! Not the OP, but we plan on filing under the 3 year rule for my husband later this month. Can you tell me if we need to send the piles and piles and piles of these documents trying to prove a genuine marriage like we did for I-751 or is it literally just 3 years of IRS transcripts is all that's required like the list makes it seem? It seems like filing N-400 is easier, but I dont know if I am missing something somewhere? Thanks for the help!

This is a great question. My understanding is that it's either OR the items in the list, so the evidence should not be nearly as bulky as the ROC evidence.

[Dashinka 24,583]

51 minutes ago, sumbunny said:

Hi! Not the OP, but we plan on filing under the 3 year rule for my husband later this month. Can you tell me if we need to send the piles and piles and piles of these documents trying to prove a genuine marriage like we did for I-751 or is it literally just 3 years of IRS transcripts is all that's required like the list makes it seem? It seems like filing N-400 is easier, but I dont know if I am missing something somewhere? Thanks for the help!

We only sent the required information based on the N400 Instructions.  The material is separated as to what needs to be submitted and what needs to be available for the interview.  We filed by mail, but many that file online upload all the interview material.

 

1 hour ago, Crazy Cat said:

If he is filing under the 3 year rule, then yes.   Refer to this checklist

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/guides/M-477.pdf

 

Just more confusion from USCIS.  In the N400 instructions, this information is only requested for the interview.  My wife only submitted the required evidence and was fine (1 and 4 did not apply to her).  She brought all the other stuff to the interview where the IO ignored it all, but that may have been because the IO had the complete I751 package on her desk.

 

Below is a list of documents to submit with your Form N-400.

1. Photographs. Only applicants who reside overseas must provide two identical color photographs of yourself taken recently. The photos must have a white to off-white background, be printed on thin paper with a glossy finish, and be unmounted and unretouched. Passport-style photos must be 2” x 2”. The photos must be in color with full face, frontal view on a white to off-white background. Head height should measure 1” to 1 3/8” from top of hair to bottom of chin, and eye height is between 1 1/8” to 1 3/8” from bottom of photo. Your head must be bare, unless contrary to your religious beliefs. Using a pencil or felt pen, lightly print your name and A-Number (if any) on the back of the photo.

2. Photocopy of Permanent Resident Card. Provide a photocopy of the front and back of your Form I-551 (Permanent Resident Card). USCIS must be able to read the information on the photocopy. If you have lost your Form I-551, attach a photocopy of any other entry document or a photocopy of a receipt showing that you have filed Form I-90, Application to Replace Permanent Resident Card.

3. Photocopy of your Current Legal Marital Status Document. Provide a photocopy of your current marriage certificate, divorce, annulment decree, or death certificate of former spouse. 4. Documents for Military Personnel or Spouses of Military Personnel: A. Form N-426 (Request for Certification of Military or Naval Service). If you are a current member of the U.S. Armed Forces, provide a completed and certified Form N-426. If you are separated from the military, provide an uncertified Form N-426.

 

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/forms/n-400instr.pdf

Edited January 12, 2022 by Dashinka

[.yana 597]

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[Scott Br 164]

1 hour ago, sumbunny said:

Hi! Not the OP, but we plan on filing under the 3 year rule for my husband later this month. Can you tell me if we need to send the piles and piles and piles of these documents trying to prove a genuine marriage like we did for I-751 or is it literally just 3 years of IRS transcripts is all that's required like the list makes it seem? It seems like filing N-400 is easier, but I dont know if I am missing something somewhere? Thanks for the help!

We just filed N400 for my wife yesterday under the 3 year rule (still waiting on ROC). The amount of documentation is nowhere near the amount that was required for both K1 and the ROC. Apply online, and you can upload supporting documents right in the website. The online process is so much easier and convenient.

[Lloydh123 13]

4 hours ago, radrac said:

Unfortunately, the i751 processing times are averaging 22-38 months….  We are through the Nebraska Service Center.  Status is: Currently Awaiting Interview.  But none has been scheduled yet.  Thanks for the info!

That seems too long. On USCIS it says 16-32 months. I was in the Nebraska office too and mine just got approved in June 2021 after waiting 7 months only. And From talking to a bunch of others on here, 12-14 months seems the longest. Sorry you have had to wait so long!!