All of Those ‘Hysterical’ Women Were Right

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For half a decade, Republicans gaslighted Democrats about Trump’s Court nominees’ views on abortion. The jig is up.

 

 

Updated at 10:35 p.m. ET on September 2, 2021

Last night, the Supreme Court quietly green-lit the most extreme abortion ban the United States has seen in half a century: a Texas law that prohibits abortions at six weeks from a woman’s last period, even in cases of rape or incest, and that deputizes citizens to spy on women and sue anyone who helps someone obtain a prohibited abortion.

The rest of the states now have a road map to ban abortion almost entirely and put bounties on women and doctors without court intervention. The constitutional right to abortion until viability is no longer being enforced. Republicans have been looking forward to this moment for decades. But some have mysteriously gone quiet. Even the loudest of the anti-abortion senators, Ted Cruz, who happens to hail from Texas, had managed, as of this writing, to refrain from gloating about the victory on Twitter.

Mary Ziegler: The deviousness of Texas’s new abortion law

Perhaps they don’t want the big headlines, because overturning Roe v. Wade is consistently unpopular with American voters. But another motivation could explain the silence: For half a decade, Republicans—especially self-described moderate members of the party—have been gaslighting America on the issue of abortion rights, pretending they didn’t know that Donald Trump’s Supreme Court picks were always planning to overturn Roe. A central goal of the conservative judicial movement that these justices came out of is overturning Roe. The Federalist Society handpicked them for that reason. It’s a transparently phony act, one that’s now been exposed as such.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/trump-supreme-court-abortion-ban/619963/

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https://thefederalist.com/2021/09/03/abortion-seekers-fleeing-texas-are-getting-a-taste-of-what-anti-lockdowners-have-felt-for-a-year-and-a-half/

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

Yeah that's exactly the same abridgment of liberty 🗽

 

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[jg121783 3,908]

So if my body my choice applies here does it also apply to mandatory vaccinations?

[TBoneTX 43,420]

1 minute ago, jg121783 said:

So if my body my choice applies here does it also apply to mandatory vaccinations?

Of course not, because you're under orders from The Elite.

[Ban Hammer 12,880]

24 minutes ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

Last night, the Supreme Court quietly green-lit the most extreme abortion ban the United States has seen in half a century:

 

holy hyperbole, batman.
meanwhile, abortion is still legal in texas

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

1 minute ago, Ban Hammer said:

holy hyperbole, batman.
meanwhile, abortion is still legal in texas

Is the law a complete ban on abortions?

The law bars abortions once cardiac activity can be detected in the embryo. This typically occurs around the sixth week of pregnancy.

That is very early in a pregnancy, and many women do not know they are pregnant at that point. By the time a pregnant woman misses her period, she is four weeks pregnant, as doctors usually define it.

Under the Texas law, then, a woman would have about two weeks to recognize her condition, confirm the pregnancy with a test, make a decision about how to manage the pregnancy and obtain an abortion.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/01/health/texas-abortion-law-facts.html

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1 hour ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

Is the law a complete ban on abortions?

The law bars abortions once cardiac activity can be detected in the embryo. This typically occurs around the sixth week of pregnancy.

That is very early in a pregnancy, and many women do not know they are pregnant at that point. By the time a pregnant woman misses her period, she is four weeks pregnant, as doctors usually define it.

Under the Texas law, then, a woman would have about two weeks to recognize her condition, confirm the pregnancy with a test, make a decision about how to manage the pregnancy and obtain an abortion.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/01/health/texas-abortion-law-facts.html

I've purchased houses, and vehicles, and made big business decisions in far less than two weeks.  If I didn't want a child, I could easily make that decision in a few hours, and still have 13 days and a few hours left over.

 

Since you seem to disagree with the new TX law, what do YOU consider is a reasonable timeframe after which abortion shouldn't happen?  I have heard arguments from "missed period" up until birth.  But life begins far, FAR before birth, I think we can agree.  

And of course, there are the medical reasons, but let's not go there for this thread.  That should occur after a lengthy discussion with one's doc, and not be a part of this new law.

[Dashinka 23,371]

Did SCOTUS rule on the merits of the Texas law?

[Neonred 3,461]

Well it seems we can at least say that the author of the article, Laura Bassett, is a hysterical woman.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,330]

4 hours ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

Is the law a complete ban on abortions?

The law bars abortions once cardiac activity can be detected in the embryo. This typically occurs around the sixth week of pregnancy.

That is very early in a pregnancy, and many women do not know they are pregnant at that point. By the time a pregnant woman misses her period, she is four weeks pregnant, as doctors usually define it.

Under the Texas law, then, a woman would have about two weeks to recognize her condition, confirm the pregnancy with a test, make a decision about how to manage the pregnancy and obtain an abortion.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/01/health/texas-abortion-law-facts.html

It will be overturned.  From my reading of it SCOTUS turned it around for procedure reasons. Without ok the law

2 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Did SCOTUS rule on the merits of the Texas law?

No from my understanding 

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

27 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

It will be overturned.  From my reading of it SCOTUS turned it around for procedure reasons. Without ok the law

No from my understanding 

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A divided Supreme Court late Wednesday declined to block a restrictive Texas law banning abortions after a fetal cardiac activity can be detected, or as early as six weeks into pregnancy, and allowing anyone in the country to sue abortion providers or others who help women get the procedure after that time frame.

 

The vote was 5-4, with Chief Justice John Roberts dissenting with the three liberal justices, Elena Kagan, Stephen Breyer and Sonia Sotomayor. Each wrote a separate opinion opposing the majority decision.

 

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4 hours ago, Neonred said:

Well it seems we can at least say that the author of the article, Laura Bassett, is a hysterical woman.

 

4 hours ago, LIBrty4all said:

I've purchased houses, and vehicles, and made big business decisions in far less than two weeks.  If I didn't want a child, I could easily make that decision in a few hours, and still have 13 days and a few hours left over.

 

Since you seem to disagree with the new TX law, what do YOU consider is a reasonable timeframe after which abortion shouldn't happen?  I have heard arguments from "missed period" up until birth.  But life begins far, FAR before birth, I think we can agree.  

And of course, there are the medical reasons, but let's not go there for this thread.  That should occur after a lengthy discussion with one's doc, and not be a part of this new law.

Have you ever been in the position to decide on whether you need to choose or for a termination?

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2 minutes ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

 

Have you ever been in the position to decide on whether you need to choose or for a termination?

No, I make better choices than to have been in that situation.

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

It will be overturned.  From my reading of it SCOTUS turned it around for procedure reasons. Without ok the law

No from my understanding 

Most likely in the long run, in the meantime many patients and health care providers will be caught in the middle. 

 

Politically, some republicans are in denial of what this means at the ballot box, others get it. 

Just now, LIBrty4all said:

No, I make better choices than to have been in that situation.

Ahh, you are a man.