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9 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  I wasn't saying no one called him out. I am saying a couple of people seem to have taken a more defensive approach. The posts are all there. Most people realize what Gaetz did was wrong, legally and morally, and are able to just come out and say that.

Morals and elected “leaders” in Washington DC, that’s a laugh.  :rofl:

 

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5 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Who has said that?  The closest thing I found is let the investigation conclude, but I don’t see anyone from any political bent defending him here.  Of course we get some “whataboutisms”, which is fairly typical and pretty much used by everyone at some time or another.  So please show where anyone is defending Gaetz’s behavior, or at least what is publicly known about it?

Someone on the last page minimized the seriousness of a grown man having sex with a 17 year old girl.

 

It's a good thing the DOJ doesn't take that point of view. 

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1 hour ago, laylalex said:

Someone on the last page minimized the seriousness of a grown man having sex with a 17 year old girl.

 

It's a good thing the DOJ doesn't take that point of view. 

So you are certain all that happened?  I mean the DOJ investigation has not completed yet, and we know how a lot of those end.  We shall see, but at this point, I will agree he seems pretty sleazy, sort of in the same vein as an Swalwell.

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I know this is not fair but he looks sleazy, super sleazy.

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14 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

So you are certain all that happened?  I mean the DOJ investigation has not completed yet, and we know how a lot of those end.  We shall see, but at this point, I will agree he seems pretty sleazy, sort of in the same vein as an Swalwell.

No, I'm not certain. I have never said that. But it is NOT a good look to minimize even allegations of sex with children.

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9 minutes ago, laylalex said:

No, I'm not certain. I have never said that. But it is NOT a good look to minimize even allegations of sex with children.

Except when they may be false.  How many people have been ruined over false allegations?

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Except when they may be false.  How many people have been ruined over false allegations?

Seriously, can we just agree that allegations of sex with children that are being investigated by the FBI are kind of a big deal? Why the effort to minimize this? When I was calling for consequences for Cuomo who sexually harassed adults, I didn't get any pushback. 

 

This is serious. Being the target of an investigation by the FBI into child sex trafficking is serious. Yes, of course it may turn out not to be true. If he is exonerated, GOOD. I would like this to be untrue! But right now this is what we know, and as the days go by, things are looking worse for Gaetz. 

 

Ugh, I think I need a drink and I do NOT day drink.

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Former lawmaker says Gaetz fought ‘revenge porn’ law: ‘He thought that any picture was his to use as he wanted’

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In this March 3, 2016 file photo, Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fort Walton Beach, speaks during the legislative session in Tallahassee, Fla.
In this March 3, 2016 file photo, Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fort Walton Beach, speaks during the legislative session in Tallahassee, Fla. (Steve Cannon/AP)
 

While serving in the Florida Legislature, U.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz opposed a bill meant to stop people from sharing sexually explicit images of their ex-lovers because Gaetz believed that recipients of those images had a right to share them, according to the sponsor of the legislation.

Former state Rep. Tom Goodson, a Republican from Brevard County, spent three years sponsoring legislation to outlaw nonconsensual pornography — sometimes called “revenge porn

 

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-ne-matt-gaetz-revenge-porn-20210405-5qbme6ilzna3rhry6gzqeevwpq-story.html

 

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9 hours ago, laylalex said:

Seriously, can we just agree that allegations of sex with children that are being investigated by the FBI are kind of a big deal? Why the effort to minimize this? When I was calling for consequences for Cuomo who sexually harassed adults, I didn't get any pushback. 

 

This is serious. Being the target of an investigation by the FBI into child sex trafficking is serious. Yes, of course it may turn out not to be true. If he is exonerated, GOOD. I would like this to be untrue! But right now this is what we know, and as the days go by, things are looking worse for Gaetz. 

 

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Not sure where I said an investigation of this nature is not a big deal.  That being said, we know the track record of the DOJ, so it is hard not to see that this could be a purely political activity.  We shall see what happens and if the allegations are in fact true, will there be a reasonable prosecutor willing to pursue anything.  Gaetz seems like an sleaze ball, but until anything is proven true, he has the presumption of innocence or at least he should have.

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Nobody has said he isn't innocent until proven guilty! But it is hypocritical to basically say we need to wait for the investigation and trial of Gaetz while also saying Cuomo should go without the benefit of the same. I think they should both go. Gaetz should go whether or not there are pictures of him with child prostitutes (he was the one who brought it up on Tucker Carlson). His other behavior -- substantiated by a number of other people -- surrounding showing explicit photos of women on the House floor is enough for me to say he needs to go. I have been on the other end of something similar, not nude pics but provocative nevertheless and it crushed me when I found out. I take this sort of non-consensual sharing of photos personally. 

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Report: Matt Gaetz sought a preemptive pardon from Trump

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Not long before former President Donald Trump left office, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) privately approached the White House and asked for blanket preemptive pardons for himself and unidentified congressional allies to cover any crimes they may have committed, two people with knowledge of the discussions told The New York Times.

 

Last week, the Times reported that Gaetz is the subject of a Department of Justice inquiry, which is said to be an investigation into whether Gaetz had sex with a 17-year-old girl and paid women he recruited to have sex. People familiar with the matter told the Times this is part of a larger probe into one of Gaetz's associates, Joel Greenberg, the former tax collector of Seminole County, Florida. Greenberg has been charged with child sex trafficking

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On 4/5/2021 at 7:37 AM, Steeleballz said:

   If Biden does touch a child, it's kind of strange to me that there are a group of people who actually imagine that as pedophilia.   

Let's be clear, the definition of Pedophilia is a sexual attraction to children.

 

When someone targets little girls, singles them out in a group while ignoring the boys, as Joe has repeatedly done, and kisses them on the cheek, the forehead, whispers in their ears, puts his hands on their waist and shoulders, Girls who he has NO relation to and is meeting for the first time, you'd have to be BLIND not to see the sexual attraction in that. 

 

 

On 4/5/2021 at 7:37 AM, Steeleballz said:

 Republicans have been concocting pedophilia conspiracies since the 70's. Probably longer than that.

  

Yep, were NOT to believe what we SEE with our own eyes, NOT to make our own assessment as a parent, Instead, were supposed to believe what the media tells us, that "Joe is just a decent and a affectionate guy, and isn't that what America needs in a President?" 

 

It's clear in my eyes that we have a Pedophile as our President, A Sexual Predator as NY Governor and a Statutory Rapist as our Congressman from California.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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