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Hello,

 

I tried to find any posts or threads on this but nothing materialized. I was wondering if anyone knew there are any differences or advantages/disadvantages to submitting the N400 online or through the mail. And if covid stands the change any of those differences at all.

N-400 PROCESS:

COLORADO|APPLYING AFTER FIVE YEARS|GC THROUGH "SPECIAL IMMIGRANT INTERNATIONAL BROADCASTER" STATUS

N-400 FILED ONLINE: MARCH 18, 2021

BIOMETRICS REUSE NOTICE ONLINE: MARCH 18, 2021

RECEIPT NOTICE ONLINE: MARCH 18, 2021

INTERVIEW NOTICE ONLINE: JULY 13, 2021

INTERVIEW NOTICE RECEIVED IN MAIL: JULY 19, 2021

INTERVIEW DATE: AUGUST 17, 2021

APPROVAL, OATH CEREMONY AND CERTIFICATE: AUGUST 17, 2021

PASSPORT PROCESS:

Aug. 17: Applied for US passport+book at metro Denver USPS, expedited processing, 1-2 express delivery, barcoded application from online wizard.
Aug. 20: Online status changed to “In Process” with locator number 34 (Charleston, SC). 
Aug. 23: Check cashed. 

Sep. 21: Status changed to "Approved” then “Shipped” later in the day.

Sep. 23: Passport book delivered, next-gen passport regular book. Label on envelope says Charleston, SC.

Sep. 25: Passport card delivered. 
Oct. 4: Naturalization certificate delivered. 

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13 minutes ago, EternalForeigner said:

Hello,

 

I tried to find any posts or threads on this but nothing materialized. I was wondering if anyone knew there are any differences or advantages/disadvantages to submitting the N400 online or through the mail. And if covid stands the change any of those differences at all.

Yes-submitting it online is much quicker, you don't have to worry it was lost in the mail, wait for a NOA1 to show up, worry if you signed everything, paid the correct fee etc. I see no reason why someone wouldn't submit it online actually. You will receive your NOA1 and biometrics notices on the computer before snail mail as well. 

Our K1 Journey    I-129f

Service Center : Texas Service Center   Transferred? California Service Center on 8/11/14

Consulate : Port au Prince, Haiti             I-129F Sent : 4/14/2014

I-129F NOA1 : 4/24/14                            I-129F NOA2 : 9/10/14

NVC Received : 9/24/14                          NVC Left : 9/26/14

Consulate Received : 10/6/14 CEAC status changed to ready

Packet 3 Received : 10/27/14 packet received by petitioner in USA ( beneficiary never received packet 3)

Medical: 10/30/14 Dr. Buteau                  Medical picked up: 11/3/14

Packet 3 Sent : 11/10/13.. Had to schedule interview appointment and attach confirmation receipt to packet

Interview Date : 12/1/14                           Interview Result : Approved !

Visa Received : 12/10/14 picked up at Jacmel location

US Entry : 12/15/14 Fort Lauderdale, Florida

Apply for Social Security Card: 12/30/14 Connecticut

Marriage: 1/26/15

 

Adjustment of Status

CIS Office : Hartford                                  Filed : 3/18/15

NOA : 3/25/15                                            Biometrics : 4/15/15

Approved: 8/31/15                                     Received: 9/8/15

 

EAD

CIS Office : Hartford                                  Filed : 3/18/15

NOA : 3/25/15                                            Approved: 6/12/15

Received: 6/20/15

 

Removal of Conditions I-751

Filed: 8/14/17 at VSC                                 NOA: 8/15/17 Received 8/21 by mail

Biometrics: Dated: 8/25/17   Received 9/2/17   Appointment 9/11/17 

Approved: 10/23/18 -no interview

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OO! I'd love to know the answer to this question as well!

All that we are and all that will be we dedicate to the One who brought us together

Timeline:

K-1 Journey:

Petition sent: 03/27/2014

Interview date!!! 10/06/2014

AOS:

Packet received at Chicago Lockbox: 2/2/2015

EAD approved! 2/26/2015

AP approved! 2/26/2015

Green card received!! 09/24/2015

ROC: 

I-751 sent off to CSC: 7/25/2017

NOA1: 7/27/2017

Filed Inquiry into Biometrics status: 9/18/2017

10 Year Green Card Approved!!! 10/22/2018

 

Next Stop, Citizenship! 

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3 minutes ago, Luckycuds said:

Yes-submitting it online is much quicker, you don't have to worry it was lost in the mail, wait for a NOA1 to show up, worry if you signed everything, paid the correct fee etc. I see no reason why someone wouldn't submit it online actually. You will receive your NOA1 and biometrics notices on the computer before snail mail as well. 

Thank you for your insight.

As for submitting documents, such as a copy of your green card, I guess you have to upload a scanned document/photo during the online process?

N-400 PROCESS:

COLORADO|APPLYING AFTER FIVE YEARS|GC THROUGH "SPECIAL IMMIGRANT INTERNATIONAL BROADCASTER" STATUS

N-400 FILED ONLINE: MARCH 18, 2021

BIOMETRICS REUSE NOTICE ONLINE: MARCH 18, 2021

RECEIPT NOTICE ONLINE: MARCH 18, 2021

INTERVIEW NOTICE ONLINE: JULY 13, 2021

INTERVIEW NOTICE RECEIVED IN MAIL: JULY 19, 2021

INTERVIEW DATE: AUGUST 17, 2021

APPROVAL, OATH CEREMONY AND CERTIFICATE: AUGUST 17, 2021

PASSPORT PROCESS:

Aug. 17: Applied for US passport+book at metro Denver USPS, expedited processing, 1-2 express delivery, barcoded application from online wizard.
Aug. 20: Online status changed to “In Process” with locator number 34 (Charleston, SC). 
Aug. 23: Check cashed. 

Sep. 21: Status changed to "Approved” then “Shipped” later in the day.

Sep. 23: Passport book delivered, next-gen passport regular book. Label on envelope says Charleston, SC.

Sep. 25: Passport card delivered. 
Oct. 4: Naturalization certificate delivered. 

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11 minutes ago, EternalForeigner said:

Thank you for your insight.

As for submitting documents, such as a copy of your green card, I guess you have to upload a scanned document/photo during the online process?

Yes, it will prompt you to upload documents- it specifies the required documents and then has a section for additional documents (if you are filing based on 3 year you will want to submit evidence of your relationship w your spouse) honestly I think the online application is sort of fool proof and I wish we were able to have filed out other petitions/applications that way 

Our K1 Journey    I-129f

Service Center : Texas Service Center   Transferred? California Service Center on 8/11/14

Consulate : Port au Prince, Haiti             I-129F Sent : 4/14/2014

I-129F NOA1 : 4/24/14                            I-129F NOA2 : 9/10/14

NVC Received : 9/24/14                          NVC Left : 9/26/14

Consulate Received : 10/6/14 CEAC status changed to ready

Packet 3 Received : 10/27/14 packet received by petitioner in USA ( beneficiary never received packet 3)

Medical: 10/30/14 Dr. Buteau                  Medical picked up: 11/3/14

Packet 3 Sent : 11/10/13.. Had to schedule interview appointment and attach confirmation receipt to packet

Interview Date : 12/1/14                           Interview Result : Approved !

Visa Received : 12/10/14 picked up at Jacmel location

US Entry : 12/15/14 Fort Lauderdale, Florida

Apply for Social Security Card: 12/30/14 Connecticut

Marriage: 1/26/15

 

Adjustment of Status

CIS Office : Hartford                                  Filed : 3/18/15

NOA : 3/25/15                                            Biometrics : 4/15/15

Approved: 8/31/15                                     Received: 9/8/15

 

EAD

CIS Office : Hartford                                  Filed : 3/18/15

NOA : 3/25/15                                            Approved: 6/12/15

Received: 6/20/15

 

Removal of Conditions I-751

Filed: 8/14/17 at VSC                                 NOA: 8/15/17 Received 8/21 by mail

Biometrics: Dated: 8/25/17   Received 9/2/17   Appointment 9/11/17 

Approved: 10/23/18 -no interview

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1 hour ago, Luckycuds said:

Yes, it will prompt you to upload documents- it specifies the required documents and then has a section for additional documents (if you are filing based on 3 year you will want to submit evidence of your relationship w your spouse) honestly I think the online application is sort of fool proof and I wish we were able to have filed out other petitions/applications that way 

I agree with this, It only gives you relevant questions based on previous answers, tells you what you need to upload based on what you have answered, you can’t get the fee wrong, and it’s instant guaranteed receipt of the form. I literally cannot think of one reason, other than being totally unable to fill in a form online, why anyone would still mail it in.

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2 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

I literally cannot think of one reason, other than being totally unable to fill in a form online, why anyone would still mail it in.

And there's the rub. Some folks are more comfortable with paper forms. I honestly found the online N-400 much easier to navigate versus the paper form. I truly hope that USCIS moves more forms online (I-485, I-129F, etc.) because it really streamlines the process!

K1 visa journey: 107 days from NOA1 to visa in hand

Spoiler

01 Oct 2016    Mailed I-129F packet (27 pages)
12 Oct 2016    NOA1 SMS and e-mail
03 Nov 2016    NOA2 SMS

24 Jan 2017    Interview
27 Jan 2017    Visa in hand
09 Feb 2017    POE Philadelphia, PA

 

AOS journey: 256 days from NOA1 to GC in hand

Spoiler

06 Apr 2017    Mailed I-485/I-131/I-765 packet (83 pages)

12 Apr 2017    I-485/I-131/I-765 packet delivered

26 May 2017    Biometrics appointment

25 Aug 2017    EAD/AP card approved

07 Dec 2017    AOS interview

18 Dec 2017    Conditional (2 year) GC in hand!

 

ROC journey: 374 days

Spoiler

09 Sep 2019    Mailed ROC packet via USPS Priority Mail (ETA 11 Sep)

20 Sep 2019    NOA1/18-month extension letter received

23 Jan 2020    Biometrics appointment

17 Sep 2020    Case approved without interview

 

Citizenship journey

09 Sep 2020      Submitted N-400 online

10 Dec 2020      Received biometrics reuse notice

20 Apr 2021      Received interview notice

25 May 2021      Interview - RFE for marital evidence

26 May 2021      RFE response submitted online

 

Cumulative number of pages sent to USCIS: 632

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Make sure to use Internet Explorer as your browser if you want online filing to go smoothly. If you have to use another browser, be ready to submit all your documents at once and without signing out in between documents. Even then it is a crapshoot.

 

A single document cannot be larger than 6MB.

 

I would have done mail if it wasn't for COVID-19, you have much more control over the process and organization of your documents.

 

Online or by mail does not affect the speed of the process, that is determined by local office.

 

 

 

K-1, AOS, ROC, Citizenship timeline below:

Spoiler

 

Met in school summer of 2011, started dating May 2012, engaged June 2016

07/15/2016 - Sent K-1 visa documents                    04/20/2017 - Mailed AOS package                                              09/16/2019 - Mailed ROC package to wrong center

07/19/2016 - NOA1 (California Service Center)         04/23/2017 - AOS package delivered                                          09/19/2019 - Printed everything again and mailed it correctly

09/02/2016 - NOA2 (45 days)                                 04/29/2017 - AOS text and email notifications                             09/23/2019 - ROC Case Was Received

09/15/2016 - NVC case number assigned                 05/04/2017 - NOA1 received for AOS, EAD, AP                            12/02/2019 - Biometrics Appointment (Got notice late, missed appt)

09/29/2016 - Case is "Ready" at embassy                05/22/2017 - Biometrics taken                                                   12/09/2019 - Biometrics taken, walk-in

10/06/2016 - Got an interview date!                        06/14/2017 - Case is Ready to Be Scheduled for Interview            12/10/2019 - Fingerprint Review Was Completed

11/06/2016 - Scheduled the medical!                       08/03/2017 - Interview is Scheduled                                           04/22/2020 - Case Was Received At My Local Office

12/06/2016 - Medical done!                                    09/06/2017 - Interview time!                                                     05/22/2020 - New Card Is Being Produced

12/12/2016 - Interview done! Visa approved!            09/06/2017 - RFE for (lost) medical                                            05/26/2020 - Case Was Approved

12/16/2016 - Visa issued                                         09/19/2017 - New medical submitted (in person)                         05/30/2020 - Card Was Delivered To Me By The Post Office

12/19/2016 - Passport with visa, envelope in hand     09/26/2017 - New Card is Being Produced (online update)                                       (First class mail, tracking provided)                     

01/11/2017 - POE!!!                                               09/29/2017 - Received I-797 Approval Notice                                                  06/28/2020 - N-400 application window opens!

04/06/2017 - Married                                                                              Card Was Mailed to Me                                                 07/13/2020 - N-400 application submitted!

                                                                            10/04/2017 - Green card in hand!                                                                  11/23/2020 - Called for a service request

                                                                                                                                                       12/04/2020 - Biometrics scheduled online notice

                                                                                                                                                       12/31/2020 - Biometrics appointment

                                                                                                                                        06/24/2021 - Interview Notice (interview on 7/27/2021)

 

 

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I used chrome for 3 n400 applications at 3 different times (mine, my husband’s (who had broken continuous residence and couldn’t apply at the same time as me) and my older daughter (who aged out while I was waiting for interview so had to file a separate one). We didn’t have problems with any of them. Just dragged and dropped all the documents required from where I’d saved the scans. Just an FYI. 

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There is no upside to filing by mail.
It is more expensive (mailing cost).
It has a better change to get lost (more people handling your application)
It takes a few days extra (mailing and waiting for them to scan your documents into their system).
Greater change of getting an RFE (the online form won't let you proceed unless the required info is entered or uploaded).

The argument that you can provide additional documents is lost on me as well. Any additional docs you want to upload, you can. Though it appears that nobody looks at them until your file reaches your local field office. Than it is not more convenient than bringing your documents with you to the interview (Something you you always do anyway).

As a final point I like to point out that filing by mail takes away resources from those that are required to file by mail. It may only be an hour per application, but that still adds up on a monthly base.

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I filed my n400 earlier this year online. The online system was great

1) you know that they've received it

2) you pay online
3) no chance of someone mis-keying your data from the paper form into the USCIS systems

 

It also only gets you to fill in the parts you need to fill in, so if you answer "no" to a particular question it won't show you any of the follow up that you'd have had if you'd answered "yes".

 

Tips:

Make sure you've got all your documents that you need scanned
You can save the form and return to it so long as you don't leave it more than 30 days (I think) between logins.

I used Firefox browser and had no problems.

It was much easier online than I129F and ROC had been on paper (not that those were particularly difficult).
 

--- k1 visa ---
Texas Service Center (Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here)
I-129F sent: 12 Aug 2014
I-129F NOA1: 15 Aug 2014
I-129F NOA2: 2 Mar 2015 (199 days from NOA1) **No RFEs!**
NVC Received: 19 Mar 2015
Case#, IIN, BIN assigned: 19 Mar 2015
NVC Left: 20 Mar 2015
Consultate Received: 23 Mar 2015
Package 3 Received: 26 Mar 2015
Medical: 10 Apr 2015
Packet 3 Sent: 10 Apr 2015
Packet 4 Received: 23 Apr 2015
Interview Date: 8 May 2015 (Approved!!!)
Visa Issued: 14 May 2015
Visa in Hand: 19 May 2015
Entry to USA: 5 Jun 2015
Married: 21 Jun 2015

---Adjustment of Status---
Sent I-485, I-131 and I-765: 7 Jul 2015
NOA1 for I-485, I-131 and I-765: 14 Jul 2015
Email notification that I-765 was approved: 12 Sep 2015
Email notification that I-131 was approved: 15 Sep 2015
Email notification that EAD/AP combo card was mailed: 15 Sep 2015
EAD and AP combo card received: 18 Sep 2015
Green Card Received: 3 Dec 2015 [ :)] Previous letter stated interview requirement was likely to be waived

 

---Removal of Conditions---
Sent I-751: 13 Oct 2017
NOA1 for I-751: 23 Oct 2017

Biometrics: 20 Nov 2017
Approved: 20 Dec 2018

Green Card Received: 2 Jan 2019

 

-- Citizenship --
Filed Online: 21 Feb 2020
NOA1 (Online): 22 Feb 2020
Biometrics: 10 Mar 2020

Interview: 29 Jul 2020 (Approved - Oath taken immediately due to covid19)

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3 hours ago, cyanmavi said:

Make sure to use Internet Explorer as your browser if you want online filing to go smoothly. If you have to use another browser, be ready to submit all your documents at once and without signing out in between documents. Even then it is a crapshoot.

 

A single document cannot be larger than 6MB.

 

I would have done mail if it wasn't for COVID-19, you have much more control over the process and organization of your documents.

 

Online or by mail does not affect the speed of the process, that is determined by local office.

 

 

Online is faster- you get the NOA1 same or next day while if you filed by mail your package still would be in transit.

Our K1 Journey    I-129f

Service Center : Texas Service Center   Transferred? California Service Center on 8/11/14

Consulate : Port au Prince, Haiti             I-129F Sent : 4/14/2014

I-129F NOA1 : 4/24/14                            I-129F NOA2 : 9/10/14

NVC Received : 9/24/14                          NVC Left : 9/26/14

Consulate Received : 10/6/14 CEAC status changed to ready

Packet 3 Received : 10/27/14 packet received by petitioner in USA ( beneficiary never received packet 3)

Medical: 10/30/14 Dr. Buteau                  Medical picked up: 11/3/14

Packet 3 Sent : 11/10/13.. Had to schedule interview appointment and attach confirmation receipt to packet

Interview Date : 12/1/14                           Interview Result : Approved !

Visa Received : 12/10/14 picked up at Jacmel location

US Entry : 12/15/14 Fort Lauderdale, Florida

Apply for Social Security Card: 12/30/14 Connecticut

Marriage: 1/26/15

 

Adjustment of Status

CIS Office : Hartford                                  Filed : 3/18/15

NOA : 3/25/15                                            Biometrics : 4/15/15

Approved: 8/31/15                                     Received: 9/8/15

 

EAD

CIS Office : Hartford                                  Filed : 3/18/15

NOA : 3/25/15                                            Approved: 6/12/15

Received: 6/20/15

 

Removal of Conditions I-751

Filed: 8/14/17 at VSC                                 NOA: 8/15/17 Received 8/21 by mail

Biometrics: Dated: 8/25/17   Received 9/2/17   Appointment 9/11/17 

Approved: 10/23/18 -no interview

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We used Chrome to file my wife's N-400 online with no problems. I didn't see it mentioned, but you fill out the form online, you don't fill out the pdf and upload.

As others have said, it is easier to have your documents scanned ahead of time.

One suggestion I would make is when naming your documents, include name and A Number.

Example:

Name Anumber 2018 Tax Transcript.pdf

Name Anumber Marriage License.pdf

Name Anumber Medical Insurance.pdf

Naturalization Timeline

01/05/2020.......Filed N-400 online.

01/07/2020.......I-751 transferred from Texas Service Center to Lee's Summit.

01/31/2020.......Biometrics Appointment.

03/06/2020.......Interview Scheduled 04/16/2020.

06/16/2020.......Interview Rescheduled 07/08/2020

07/08/2020.......Approved

08/20/2020.......Oath Ceremony

 

N400 January 2020 filers spread sheet  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bxlnPL1_Ln6rGAZcTwEf6e-dNjQkBmr02wYi6baeIF0/edit#gid=0

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1 hour ago, Rick & Apple said:

One suggestion I would make is when naming your documents, include name and A Number.

Example:

Name Anumber 2018 Tax Transcript.pdf

Name Anumber Marriage License.pdf

Name Anumber Medical Insurance.pdf

That didn’t even occur to me! My docs had names like “GCfront” “GCback” “XYbc” etc 😂 I can confirm that the IO had everything she needed at my interview despite that ;) 

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If your handwriting is not nice (like mine) and you want to ensure the information you fill out is correct, I would suggest online.

 

Also on the traveling portion area online, it determines how many days you have travelled outside of the US. It was nice to have that tool because I travelled in July of 2015 but I wasn’t sure if I should put it since technically it’s been after 5 years(I submitted my application September). But the tool let me know that it was 0 days outside of US. So therefore I didnt include it.

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