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Is filing AOS thru I-485 possible if my wife is currently overstaying her visa?

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Turkey
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Just now, HRQX said:

Check back tomorrow or Wednesday. @T&S_MTL filed on a Wednesday and had access to the notice the following day:

Ok, that isn't too bad of a delay, thanks!

A.O.S. Process 🤷‍♀️ 📑 🤷‍♂️

May 13th, 2020 - Turkish immigrant within the U.S. married to U.S. citizen 

June 28th, 2020 - I-130 Submitted Electronically

June 30th, 2020 - I-130 Receipt Notice Received

June 30th, 2020 - "I-485 + I-765 + I-131 Package" Submitted by Mail

July 2nd, 2020 - "I-485 + I-765 + I-131 Package" Delivered to Chicago Lockbox

August 5th, 2020 - Opened case through USCIS helpline about lack of any receipt notifications

August 7th, 2020 - I-485 + I-131 forms were officially "received" by USCIS (36 days after arrival!!! 🤯

August 6-13th, 2020 - "I-485 + I-765 + I-131 Package" Money Order Cashed at Some Point...

August 13th, 2020 - I-485 + I-131 Text Message Receipt Notices Received

September 12th, 2020 - I-765 Rejection Notice Received by Mail (Notice date August 3rd)

October 9th, 2020 - Resubmitted I-765 Received

January 13th, 2021 - I-131/ I-765 Expedite Request Received

January 21st, 2021 - I-130 Approval Notice

January 24th, 2021 - I-130 sent to Department of State [NVC]

February 11th, 2021 - Completed Biometrics Appointment 🙌

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58 minutes ago, Cndn said:

I’m glad someone said this. I’ve seen the most inaccurate advice on that sub. 

I know right..... The rest of the time they will tell you to go see a attorney for the simplest things. But that is because many of them are attorneys or paralegals themselves. But if you try to correct them or have a different opinion than everyone else then you get banned. Also I see mainly work visas on that sub not family visas

 

They got a new Mod over there so hopefully he cleans things up some since the other mods were inactive. 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Ukraine
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9 hours ago, zwrouse said:
  • After discussing the situation with the USCIS helpline (as a hypothetical...) they said that to file for AOS you need to be in the country with a currently valid status and that she would need to leave the country in order to apply for AOS.

 

 

 

This is actually incorrect and disastrous information from the USCIS helpline.   You cannot leave the country and AOS.  Adjustment of Status allows a person to stay in the US while their immigration petition is adjudicated.  It is not valid for someone outside the US, and leaving the US while it is in process is deemed as abandoning the petition.

 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
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15 hours ago, Cndn said:

I’m glad someone said this. I’ve seen the most inaccurate advice on that sub. 

I got downvoted all the way for saying coming to the US on a tourist visa to marry with no intent of staying was fine. I've steered clear since.

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20 hours ago, zwrouse said:
  • After discussing the situation with the USCIS helpline (as a hypothetical...) they said that to file for AOS you need to be in the country with a currently valid status and that she would need to leave the country in order to apply for AOS.
19 hours ago, zwrouse said:

So I guess USCIS customer service is just wrong and/or misleading then -- that is pretty frustrating.

1) USCIS is not supposed to provide any legal advice, and they are not held accountable for any advice they do provide. As such, take anything other than pure information (i.e. you can access form x here) with a grain of salt.

2) In general, to qualify for AOS you must be in and have maintained lawful immigration status since entry. Your circumstance (IR of a USC) is an exception to the rule.

The exception tends to swallow the rule (lots and lots of IR cases), but it's still an exception to the rule.

 

20 hours ago, zwrouse said:

Numerous online resources have explained to us that it is fine to file AOS for a spouse while overstaying a valid visa. Is this the case? Has something changed?

See it for yourself: https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-7-part-b-chapter-8

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Brazil
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22 hours ago, zwrouse said:

Info:

  • I am a US citizen married to a non-citizen w/ no dependents.
  • She came in legally on a student visa and has overstayed her OPT visa by ~1 month.
  • I have already filed an I-130 petition online. 
  • I am wanting to mail in an I-485 package ASAP.
  • After discussing the situation with the USCIS helpline (as a hypothetical...) they said that to file for AOS you need to be in the country with a currently valid status and that she would need to leave the country in order to apply for AOS.

 

Numerous online resources have explained to us that it is fine to file AOS for a spouse while overstaying a valid visa. Is this the case? Has something changed?

 

Do we need to file BOTH I-130 and I-485 at the same time to do so?

 

I'd like to know with as much certainty as possible, especially since the I-485 filing fee is so massive! 

 

Thank you for any help you can give.

No problem if she is overstay once you are U.S Citizen. Go head and apply I-435 and others forms.

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