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Wait, I thought all these fires spontaneously started due to global warming, cooling, climate change?  It is sad that idiots play with fire.

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2 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Wait, I thought all these fires spontaneously started due to global warming, cooling, climate change?  It is sad that idiots play with fire.

They say pretty much anything that gets people to placate them.

 

No doubt Saint Greta is loving this.

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Well, it DOES qualify as man-made climate change...

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Why is man made still allowed, should we not be more Progressive?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Human... no, huperson… no, huperdaughter.  Got it, first try.

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1 hour ago, TBoneTX said:

Well, it DOES qualify as man-made climate change...

wow that was actually clever... LOL

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11 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

Sad & devastating.  I wonder why anyone would think this was a good idea?

 

https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2020/01/07/24-australians-charged-with-bushfire-arson-as-further-arrests-expected/

 

 

The fires that this article is referring to are small local fires started by arsonists. Sad yes, very sad 🙁. But it is not referring to the large bushfires that were started by dry lightening in the winter months , burning in inaccessible high country areas, through large areas of native Australian forests .. some of driest naturally occurring fire station in the world. Even when not in drought , the Australian bush is dry and it burns hot and fast 

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I live in a very dry area, but nothing like this hot, there used to be lots of small fires, mainly dry lightning, now of course in recent decades they have been put put so when we get new ones they are harder and harder to do so as the amount of flammable material keeps building up.

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29 minutes ago, Lil bear said:

The fires that this article is referring to are small local fires started by arsonists. Sad yes, very sad 🙁. But it is not referring to the large bushfires that were started by dry lightening in the winter months , burning in inaccessible high country areas, through large areas of native Australian forests .. some of driest naturally occurring fire station in the world. Even when not in drought , the Australian bush is dry and it burns hot and fast 

And when was the last time this happened, naturally?

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Bots and trolls spread false arson claims in Australian fires ‘disinformation campaign’

Online posts exaggerating the role of arson are being used to undermine the link between bushfires and climate change

 
 
 

Firefighters tackle a bushfire in thick smoke in the New South Wales town of Moruya

Bot and troll accounts are involved in a “disinformation campaign” exaggerating the role of arson in Australia’s bushfire disaster, social media analysis suggests.

The bushfires burning across the nation have been accompanied by repeated suggestions of an arson epidemic or “arson emergency”.

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The false claims are, in some cases, used to undermine the link between the current bushfires and the longer, more intense fire seasons brought about by climate change.

The Queensland University of Technology senior lecturer on social network analysis Dr Timothy Graham examined content published on the #arsonemergency hashtag on Twitter, assessing 1,340 tweets, 1,203 of which were unique, published by 315 accounts.

Labor & Greens Trash(@labor_trash)

#ClimateCriminals update.
Total alleged Leftist arsonists sits at 183.
Their ring leaders are presumed to be still active on Social media.
If you spot any of them call Police
The #ArsonEmergency is very real. #ClimateEmergency exposed as a fraud #auspol https://t.co/7Al3oJ71dX

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Using a Twitter bot detection tool, he assessed a random sample for bot-like characteristics.

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His preliminary analysis found there is likely a “current disinformation campaign” on Twitter’s #arsonemergency hashtag due to the “suspiciously high number of bot-like and troll-like accounts”.

He similarly found a large number of suspicious accounts posting on the #australiafire and #bushfireaustralia hashtags.

“Australia suddenly appears to be getting swamped by mis/disinformation as a result of this environmental catastrophe, and we are suffering the consequences in terms of hyped up polarisation and an increased difficulty and inability for citizens to discern truth,” Graham told the Guardian

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6 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

wow that was actually clever... LOL

Then encourage your friends, Romans, and countrymen to bonus it, to encourage such brilliance in the future.

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If you read this guy, it is Australia’s own fault since they are major producers of coal and LNG even though they don’t use it.

 

 

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-01-06/bushfires-reap-what-australia-s-carbon-exports-have-sown

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On 1/7/2020 at 8:28 AM, Bill & Katya said:

Wait, I thought all these fires spontaneously started due to global warming, cooling, climate change?  It is sad that idiots play with fire.

 

    Obviously warmer climate would lead to drier conditions, which are more conducive to allowing small fires to spread more easily. Spontaneous fires (such as lightning strikes) are regular around here but it also happens annually due to human carelessness, such as not putting out campfires (or having one burning in the first place when they are restricted). No reason to make light of the issue, as there are several human activity factors that contribute to the spread of these fires.

 

  Here in Colorado, if you start a wild fire and get caught, they send you the bill for putting it out, often in the millions of dollars.  

 

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8 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    Obviously warmer climate would lead to drier conditions, which are more conducive to allowing small fires to spread more easily. Spontaneous fires (such as lightning strikes) are regular around here but it also happens annually due to human carelessness, such as not putting out campfires (or having one burning in the first place when they are restricted). No reason to make light of the issue, as there are several human activity factors that contribute to the spread of these fires.

 

  Here in Colorado, if you start a wild fire and get caught, they send you the bill for putting it out, often in the millions of dollars.  

 

Yes, there are many causes of wildfires, but the media seems hellbent on blaming all of this on climate change.  Who knows, maybe it had something to do with forest management, or how the Australians strategize to fight wildfires.

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