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Hi VJ Family, 

 

I'm filling petition for my father who lives in Pakistan, he first got married in 1978 and got divorce in 1983 and remarried my Mother. He doesn't have his first marriage papers or divorce papers, it appears that i have to submit the divorce papers with his i-130 petition. 

 

1. Should i file the petition without divorce papers?

2. How to get his 1st marriage related document?

 

Any help will be highly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

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26 minutes ago, imijourney said:

Hi VJ Family, 

 

I'm filling petition for my father who lives in Pakistan, he first got married in 1978 and got divorce in 1983 and remarried my Mother. He doesn't have his first marriage papers or divorce papers, it appears that i have to submit the divorce papers with his i-130 petition. 

 

1. Should i file the petition without divorce papers?

2. How to get his 1st marriage related document?

 

Any help will be highly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

1. No.  You will get RFE 

 

2. Contact Union Council of area where he was married for Divorce documents 

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5 minutes ago, CH Saab said:

1. No.  You will get RFE 

 

2. Contact Union Council of area where he was married for Divorce documents 

but his first marriage was not recorded. would they be able to make it for him if he provide dates?

 

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1 minute ago, aleful said:

hi

 

exactly, he needs all the divorces that he has and marriage certificate with your mom

 

 

I have the marriage certificate with my mom but divorce papers from previous marriage is missing. i asked him to contact the union council today.

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Bribing  to produce fake documents is not the way to go.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Don't file without all required documents. You may get an RFE. You may get an outright denial per the updated USCIS policy to do so in exactly this type of situation (filing hoping to get an RFE with a document later).

 

Do not present any false documents. This especially goes to anybody from Pakistan as they review documents very carefully for exactly that type of reason.

Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Appreciate all the comments. the union council is going to look for records from 1978 to 1983 and we are hoping they will find the marriage certificate etc.

 

Thanks,

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Jokes aside, it is against US immigration law to present fraudulent documents, and also against VJ terms of service for someone to advise bribing officials to get them for use in the US immigration process.

 

This part of the US immigration manual https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-8-part-j-chapter-2 deals with the penalties (that is, “The person will be barred from admission for the rest of his or her life”)  for fraud and willful misrepresentation. Again, getting a fake document and presenting it at interview would be totally, totally dumb. 

 

 

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*** Three posts discussing and quoting bribery removed from thread. VJ does not condone any discussions about bribery on this site.

 

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50 minutes ago, imijourney said:

Appreciate all the comments. the union council is going to look for records from 1978 to 1983 and we are hoping they will find the marriage certificate etc.

 

Thanks,

Hope they are able to help your father out with locating documentation from the first marriage. 🙏

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GOT MARRIED: 3-APR-2015 :wub:

HUSBAND FILED I-130: 29-MAY-2015

VISAS APPROVED: 15-JUN-2016

VISAS IN HAND; GREEN CARD FEES PAID: 21-JUN-2016

PORT OF ENTRY - FT. LAUDERDALE INTL AIRPORT: 06-AUG-2016
CONDITIONAL GREEN CARDS RECEIVED: 23-SEP-2016
 
I-751 FILER   
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FILED REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS: 25-JUN-2018
FILE SENT TO NEBRASKA SERVICE CENTER 11-MAY-2019
10-YR GREEN CARDS APPROVED 17-JUN-2019 
10-YR GREEN CARDS RECEIVED 21-JUN-2019 :dance: 

N-400 FILER
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FILED CITIZENSHIP ONLINE; RECEIVED NOA1: 8-DEC-2019
BIOMETRICS WALK-IN: 18-DEC-2019
INTERVIEW SCHEDULED: 26-OCT-2020
APPROVED/SAME DAY OATH CEREMONY: 26-OCT-2020
 
US PASSPORT
APPLICATION APPOINTMENT AT USPS (ROUTINE): 16-SEP-2021
PASSPORT APPROVED: 30-SEP-2021
PASSPORT RECEIVED: 5-OCT-2021
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11 hours ago, imijourney said:

Appreciate all the comments. the union council is going to look for records from 1978 to 1983 and we are hoping they will find the marriage certificate etc.

 

Thanks,

The divorce decree is more important in this case.

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1 hour ago, Jorgedig said:

The divorce decree is more important in this case.

Does it apply to my mother too? my mother only married once. if i were to petition for my mom, do i have to submit my father divorce papers too?

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52 minutes ago, imijourney said:

Does it apply to my mother too? my mother only married once. if i were to petition for my mom, do i have to submit my father divorce papers too?

No.  For that you will need your birth certificate and possibly your parents' marriage certificate.

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