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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: China
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Given how long I-751s are taking nowadays, I'm wondering if my wife and I should just go ahead and plan on filing the N-400 right at 3 years, even if the I-751 is still pending. How many people end up doing that? 

8/16/18 -- Married

10/23/18 -- I-130 filed (DCF in Beijing)

12/03/18 -- I-130 approved

12/23/18 -- Packet 3 Sent to GZ

12/28/18 -- Packet 4 received

02/14/19 -- Interview in GZ -- approved!

Total: 113 days from filing to approval

07/15/19 -- Entered US

08/13/19 -- Applied for Social Security Card

08/16/19 -- Green Card received

08/22/19 -- Social Security Card received

6/22/21 – I-751 (Removal of Conditions) mailed out via USPS

6/29/21 - I-751 NOA

9/17/21 - I-751 Biometrics

6/8/22 - I-751 approved (interview waived under new 2022 rule)

6/15/22 - 10-year GC received in mail!

Total: 358 days from filing to receiving 10-year GC

6/18/22 - N-400 filed online

11/18/22 - Interview scheduled for Dallas Field Office

 

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No issue filing the N-400 while ROC is pending. I don't know how many people are doing it (raw numbers or percentage), but it's a pretty common circumstance still. It may or may not result in a combo interview.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: China
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1 minute ago, geowrian said:

No issue filing the N-400 while ROC is pending. I don't know how many people are doing it (raw numbers or percentage), but it's a pretty common circumstance still. It may or may not result in a combo interview.

Thanks for your response. Our concern is getting her naturalized as quickly as possible, will filing while ROC is pending speed up the process? Thanks!

8/16/18 -- Married

10/23/18 -- I-130 filed (DCF in Beijing)

12/03/18 -- I-130 approved

12/23/18 -- Packet 3 Sent to GZ

12/28/18 -- Packet 4 received

02/14/19 -- Interview in GZ -- approved!

Total: 113 days from filing to approval

07/15/19 -- Entered US

08/13/19 -- Applied for Social Security Card

08/16/19 -- Green Card received

08/22/19 -- Social Security Card received

6/22/21 – I-751 (Removal of Conditions) mailed out via USPS

6/29/21 - I-751 NOA

9/17/21 - I-751 Biometrics

6/8/22 - I-751 approved (interview waived under new 2022 rule)

6/15/22 - 10-year GC received in mail!

Total: 358 days from filing to receiving 10-year GC

6/18/22 - N-400 filed online

11/18/22 - Interview scheduled for Dallas Field Office

 

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4 minutes ago, Dongbei said:

Thanks for your response. Our concern is getting her naturalized as quickly as possible, will filing while ROC is pending speed up the process? Thanks!

Possibly. There is a rule that an N-400 is supposed to be adjudicated within 120 days of the interview, but it's also not something where there's much of an avenue to enforce it if they don't. But there's no harm in trying.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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27 minutes ago, Dongbei said:

Given how long I-751s are taking nowadays, I'm wondering if my wife and I should just go ahead and plan on filing the N-400 right at 3 years, even if the I-751 is still pending. How many people end up doing that? 

My wife plans to file her N-400 when she becomes eligible in March......she has a pending I-751.  I see no downside.

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August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ukraine
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2 hours ago, missileman said:

My wife plans to file her N-400 when she becomes eligible in March......she has a pending I-751.  I see no downside.

Same here but in January.

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3 hours ago, Dongbei said:

Given how long I-751s are taking nowadays, I'm wondering if my wife and I should just go ahead and plan on filing the N-400 right at 3 years, even if the I-751 is still pending. How many people end up doing that? 

Looking at your timeline it looks like you will be eligibale to file i751 in May 2021. USCIS processing speeds on its individual locations (Vermont, Potomac, Nebraska, California etc) are extremely volatile. 

 

CSC was on average processing i751s in 18 months when I applied in June 2018. CSC then accelerated the process early this year where I observed some cases getting approved within 12 months THEN later this year in the summer the CSC has again lagging behind and the processing time has been increasing all the way into 15-16months territory. So basically you will have to see how things stand when you get closer to the eligibility time-frame for N400. 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Egypt
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We filed the n400 online before the I-751 was approved. It worked perfectly for us...filed n400 March 2018...citizen September 26, 2018. Our I-751 was filed in March 2017, and his joint interview was only a few months after we filed the n400. 

ROC

3.6.2017     Mailed I-751

3.7.2017     NOA sent

3.23.2017   Biometrics Appointment

2.26.2018   I-751 Transferred to Local Office

3.5.2018     I-751 Received in Local Office

5.1.2018     Case Transferred; Preliminary Review Done; transferred to NBC in Lee's Summit, MO

5.3.2018     Case Transferred

7.24.2018   Joint interview approved

7.30.2018   Green Card received

Naturalization

3.15.2018   Filed N 400 Online

3.15.2018   USCIS sent the receipt

3.16.2018   USCIS sent biometrics letter

6.14.2018   Interview Notice sent

7.24.2018   Naturalization Interview; approved

9.26.2018   Oath Ceremony Scheduled

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: China
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8 minutes ago, visaqueries said:

We filed the n400 online before the I-751 was approved. It worked perfectly for us...filed n400 March 2018...citizen September 26, 2018. Our I-751 was filed in March 2017, and his joint interview was only a few months after we filed the n400. 

Wow that's amazingly fast! Congrats! Where did you file? 

 

5 hours ago, kline19 said:

Looking at your timeline it looks like you will be eligibale to file i751 in May 2021. USCIS processing speeds on its individual locations (Vermont, Potomac, Nebraska, California etc) are extremely volatile. 

 

CSC was on average processing i751s in 18 months when I applied in June 2018. CSC then accelerated the process early this year where I observed some cases getting approved within 12 months THEN later this year in the summer the CSC has again lagging behind and the processing time has been increasing all the way into 15-16months territory. So basically you will have to see how things stand when you get closer to the eligibility time-frame for N400. 

Thanks for that tip. Yes, I know that the times can change, but it has definitely been an upward trend over the last few years! The recent changes will likely only make it worse. 

8/16/18 -- Married

10/23/18 -- I-130 filed (DCF in Beijing)

12/03/18 -- I-130 approved

12/23/18 -- Packet 3 Sent to GZ

12/28/18 -- Packet 4 received

02/14/19 -- Interview in GZ -- approved!

Total: 113 days from filing to approval

07/15/19 -- Entered US

08/13/19 -- Applied for Social Security Card

08/16/19 -- Green Card received

08/22/19 -- Social Security Card received

6/22/21 – I-751 (Removal of Conditions) mailed out via USPS

6/29/21 - I-751 NOA

9/17/21 - I-751 Biometrics

6/8/22 - I-751 approved (interview waived under new 2022 rule)

6/15/22 - 10-year GC received in mail!

Total: 358 days from filing to receiving 10-year GC

6/18/22 - N-400 filed online

11/18/22 - Interview scheduled for Dallas Field Office

 

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: China
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4 minutes ago, implife said:

no.

what "process" do you want to speed up? USCIS will do whatever they want, whenever they want to do it.

Do you mind expanding on this less-than-helpful response? I mean speed up as in simple math would dictate that filing an N-400 with an I-751 still pending would be faster.

8/16/18 -- Married

10/23/18 -- I-130 filed (DCF in Beijing)

12/03/18 -- I-130 approved

12/23/18 -- Packet 3 Sent to GZ

12/28/18 -- Packet 4 received

02/14/19 -- Interview in GZ -- approved!

Total: 113 days from filing to approval

07/15/19 -- Entered US

08/13/19 -- Applied for Social Security Card

08/16/19 -- Green Card received

08/22/19 -- Social Security Card received

6/22/21 – I-751 (Removal of Conditions) mailed out via USPS

6/29/21 - I-751 NOA

9/17/21 - I-751 Biometrics

6/8/22 - I-751 approved (interview waived under new 2022 rule)

6/15/22 - 10-year GC received in mail!

Total: 358 days from filing to receiving 10-year GC

6/18/22 - N-400 filed online

11/18/22 - Interview scheduled for Dallas Field Office

 

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5 minutes ago, Dongbei said:

Do you mind expanding on this less-than-helpful response? I mean speed up as in simple math would dictate that filing an N-400 with an I-751 still pending would be faster.

with pleasure.
your N-400 will not be looked at until your I-751 is reviewed.

and your I-751 will be reviewed whenever they get to reviewing it.

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: China
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4 minutes ago, implife said:

with pleasure.
your N-400 will not be looked at until your I-751 is reviewed.

and your I-751 will be reviewed whenever they get to reviewing it.

Yet they can be adjudicated together in the same interview (at least in the past from what I've read here and elsewhere) which would speed up the process dramatically. 

8/16/18 -- Married

10/23/18 -- I-130 filed (DCF in Beijing)

12/03/18 -- I-130 approved

12/23/18 -- Packet 3 Sent to GZ

12/28/18 -- Packet 4 received

02/14/19 -- Interview in GZ -- approved!

Total: 113 days from filing to approval

07/15/19 -- Entered US

08/13/19 -- Applied for Social Security Card

08/16/19 -- Green Card received

08/22/19 -- Social Security Card received

6/22/21 – I-751 (Removal of Conditions) mailed out via USPS

6/29/21 - I-751 NOA

9/17/21 - I-751 Biometrics

6/8/22 - I-751 approved (interview waived under new 2022 rule)

6/15/22 - 10-year GC received in mail!

Total: 358 days from filing to receiving 10-year GC

6/18/22 - N-400 filed online

11/18/22 - Interview scheduled for Dallas Field Office

 

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: China
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4 minutes ago, implife said:

I'm sorry, but logic doesn't apply here. Speaking from experience.

Seems like you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder. Feel free to share your experience but these terse, cryptic replies are not helpful. Thanks!

8/16/18 -- Married

10/23/18 -- I-130 filed (DCF in Beijing)

12/03/18 -- I-130 approved

12/23/18 -- Packet 3 Sent to GZ

12/28/18 -- Packet 4 received

02/14/19 -- Interview in GZ -- approved!

Total: 113 days from filing to approval

07/15/19 -- Entered US

08/13/19 -- Applied for Social Security Card

08/16/19 -- Green Card received

08/22/19 -- Social Security Card received

6/22/21 – I-751 (Removal of Conditions) mailed out via USPS

6/29/21 - I-751 NOA

9/17/21 - I-751 Biometrics

6/8/22 - I-751 approved (interview waived under new 2022 rule)

6/15/22 - 10-year GC received in mail!

Total: 358 days from filing to receiving 10-year GC

6/18/22 - N-400 filed online

11/18/22 - Interview scheduled for Dallas Field Office

 

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