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I think an RFE and interview is more likely than an outright denial as well. There's little to no chance of approval here without an RFE and/or interview, but I haven't seen an outright denial based on lack of evidence for an I-751 in recent history.

I'm not suggesting it is wise to only send the bare minimum required documents, but it's not a game over situation either.


Timelines:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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57 minutes ago, geowrian said:

I think an RFE and interview is more likely than an outright denial as well. There's little to no chance of approval here without an RFE and/or interview, but I haven't seen an outright denial based on lack of evidence for an I-751 in recent history.

I'm not suggesting it is wise to only send the bare minimum required documents, but it's not a game over situation either.

Is this also considering that the filing was about 4 months late and the only reason given was in the lines of I forgot about it?

 

I am just trying to figure out, because I believe one of the people who I used to work with might also have missed the deadline for filing ROC

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Timeline Info below:

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04/21/16 -- Marriage

----- CR1 Process -----

USCIS Stage [222 days from NOA1]

06/08/16 -- Sent I-130

01/31/17 -- I-130 petition sent to NVC [Received Email notification and MyUscis status update]

NVC Stage [105 days from NOA2]

Embassy/Consulate (Interview) Stage [43 days from Case Complete to Visa in Hand]

05/18/17 -- Consulate Received. CEAC Case status changed to "Ready"

06/01/17 -- Medical Examination [Complete. It took around 2 hours. Total Cost INR 11650 for Surat City Apollo Clinic]

06/12/17 -- Biometric (OFC) Appointment

06/13/17 -- Interview [7:30 AM at Mumbai, India]. Visa Approved

06/15/17 -- Visa in hand

06/21/17 -- POE at DFW (Dallas, Texas)

----- Removal of Condition -----

Removal of Condition (I-751) [TBD]

06/18/2019 -- Sent the package (3 Days before GC expires, cutting it close). Sent to Lewisville, TX via FedEx Ground

06/19/2019 -- Package received at around 9:30 AM (Hoping I don't get rejected for missing deadline)

06/24/2019 -- Card was charged with $680 fees. Text Message received confirming Receipt. Case routed to NBC (Case Number starts with 'MSC')

06/28/2019 -- NOA Hard Copy & 18 Months Extension Letter Received in Mail with NOA Date as 06/19/2019

07/12/2019 -- Biomentrics Appointment Letter received. The Letter is Dated 7/5/2019. Appointment is on 7/22/2019

07/22/2019 -- Biometrics Appointment Complete

 

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16 minutes ago, Tanish said:

Is this also considering that the filing was about 4 months late and the only reason given was in the lines of I forgot about it?

 

I am just trying to figure out, because I believe one of the people who I used to work with might also have missed the deadline for filing ROC

If they accept the filing, then the bona fides of the marriage are the main concern. A few months is not likely to raise a concern. If it was a few years, I'd be much more concerned.


Timelines:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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41 minutes ago, geowrian said:

If they accept the filing, then the bona fides of the marriage are the main concern. A few months is not likely to raise a concern. If it was a few years, I'd be much more concerned.

Okay. I was under the impression that if we don't file before the Conditional GC expires, we risk being out of status and risk losing residency.

 

I will ask her to apply ASAP.


Timeline Info below:

Spoiler

04/21/16 -- Marriage

----- CR1 Process -----

USCIS Stage [222 days from NOA1]

06/08/16 -- Sent I-130

01/31/17 -- I-130 petition sent to NVC [Received Email notification and MyUscis status update]

NVC Stage [105 days from NOA2]

Embassy/Consulate (Interview) Stage [43 days from Case Complete to Visa in Hand]

05/18/17 -- Consulate Received. CEAC Case status changed to "Ready"

06/01/17 -- Medical Examination [Complete. It took around 2 hours. Total Cost INR 11650 for Surat City Apollo Clinic]

06/12/17 -- Biometric (OFC) Appointment

06/13/17 -- Interview [7:30 AM at Mumbai, India]. Visa Approved

06/15/17 -- Visa in hand

06/21/17 -- POE at DFW (Dallas, Texas)

----- Removal of Condition -----

Removal of Condition (I-751) [TBD]

06/18/2019 -- Sent the package (3 Days before GC expires, cutting it close). Sent to Lewisville, TX via FedEx Ground

06/19/2019 -- Package received at around 9:30 AM (Hoping I don't get rejected for missing deadline)

06/24/2019 -- Card was charged with $680 fees. Text Message received confirming Receipt. Case routed to NBC (Case Number starts with 'MSC')

06/28/2019 -- NOA Hard Copy & 18 Months Extension Letter Received in Mail with NOA Date as 06/19/2019

07/12/2019 -- Biomentrics Appointment Letter received. The Letter is Dated 7/5/2019. Appointment is on 7/22/2019

07/22/2019 -- Biometrics Appointment Complete

 

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19 minutes ago, Tanish said:

Okay. I was under the impression that if we don't file before the Conditional GC expires, we risk being out of status and risk losing residency.

 

I will ask her to apply ASAP.

Risk? Yes. Technically you lose status automatically by not filing, although it gets more complicated than that so it's only half true. Basically, you are permitted a continuance and to obtain evidence of LPR status until an IJ makes a final decision. A couple months late filing isn't good, but there have been people in worse circumstances that have removed conditions in the end.


Timelines:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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I feel like I have read about other cases here on VJ where they filed too late but things turned out fine anyway. 

 

I would be more worried about the lack of evidence in this case, than the late filing itself.


K-1: 12-22-2015 - 09-07-2016 (260 days)

AP: 12-20-2016 - 04-07-2017 (108 days)

EAD: 01-18-2017 - 05-30-2017 (132 days)

AOS: 12-20-2016 - 07-26-2017 (217 days)

 

ROC:

04-19-2019 - Earliest filing date

04-22-2019 - I-751 sent with USPS (AZ lockbox)

04-24-2019 - Delivered/Received date

04-30-2019 - Check cashed

04-30-2019 - NOA1 text/email (WAC)

05-03-2019 - NOA1 hardcopy/extension letter

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OP, assuming your filing is accepted and you receive an I-797, I would collect as much real evidence as possible and submit it with that acceptance as a cover page before they issue the RFE. You're dangerously close to not having the minimum required evidence which could cause a straight denial.

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Once again, Thank you to all that have taken the time to dig in and type up responses. All feedback are greatly appreciated!

 

I've read some replies that get my hopes way up, and some that bring me back to reality. Nonetheless, I think worst case scenario would be an outright denial - although that seems unlikely. Best case scenario seems like they would accept the minimal evidence I provided, and not RFE or interview - also unlikely. 

 

The most likely scenario that will play out is I do get an RFE, and an interview is required as well. If that happens I will gladly provide the requested documentation/evidence, and goto the interview.

 

Btw, for background info my timeline is on my profile. The wife and I have never been convicted or charged with any crimes. She is a homemaker currently, and I'm employed. I've purchased a vehicle with her on title, but we still reside in the home that I purchased before I met her. Therefore she is yet to be added to title on that. We have health insurance coverage for her, myself, and our two children. All utilities are still in my name - never found it necessary to add her to all the bills. In the meantime, she has obtained her CA drivers license, and we do have auto insurance with both of us on policy. I have life insurance with her as the beneficiary (although I told her i put our son as the benefactor).

 

Has anyone experienced a similar situation - being late in filing your I-751? How late were you? Your personal account on your experiences would be greatly appreciated, if there is such a person (as dumb as me lol)


Our Timeline:

 

Met the woman of my dreams: 7/5/2014

Married the woman of my dreams: 1/18/2016

First child with wife born: 6/6/2016 (yay!)

 

K-3 to CR-1 Visa Processing:

 

4/11/2016:   I-130 Sent

4/13/2016:   NOA1

8/26/2016:   NOA2

9/20/2016:   NVC Receipt 

10/4/2016:   NVC Case # Assigned (My birthday woohoo!)

10/4/2016:   Submit DS-261 

10/5/2016:   DS-261 / AOS / IV Bill Recieved
10/6/2016:   Paid AOS & IV Bill

10/7/2016:   Send AOS & IV Package 

12/15/2016:  CC @ NVC 

12/28/2016:  P4 Received 

12/9/2016:   Interview Date Received for 2/9/2017

2/9/2017:     Interview Result: Approved

2/14/2017:   CR-1 Visa Received (Visa in Passport)

2/21/2017:   US POE Entry @ LAX

 

*Sarcastically* Trucking along thanks to the dedicated and hardworking individuals at the NVC. Brings me delight to finally be able to say, the light at the end of the tunnel is near.

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48 minutes ago, PandO said:

Once again, Thank you to all that have taken the time to dig in and type up responses. All feedback are greatly appreciated!

 

I've read some replies that get my hopes way up, and some that bring me back to reality. Nonetheless, I think worst case scenario would be an outright denial - although that seems unlikely. Best case scenario seems like they would accept the minimal evidence I provided, and not RFE or interview - also unlikely. 

 

The most likely scenario that will play out is I do get an RFE, and an interview is required as well. If that happens I will gladly provide the requested documentation/evidence, and goto the interview.

 

Btw, for background info my timeline is on my profile. The wife and I have never been convicted or charged with any crimes. She is a homemaker currently, and I'm employed. I've purchased a vehicle with her on title, but we still reside in the home that I purchased before I met her. Therefore she is yet to be added to title on that. We have health insurance coverage for her, myself, and our two children. All utilities are still in my name - never found it necessary to add her to all the bills. In the meantime, she has obtained her CA drivers license, and we do have auto insurance with both of us on policy. I have life insurance with her as the beneficiary (although I told her i put our son as the benefactor).

 

Has anyone experienced a similar situation - being late in filing your I-751? How late were you? Your personal account on your experiences would be greatly appreciated, if there is such a person (as dumb as me lol)

I'm confused, who's the immigrant?

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2 hours ago, Lemonslice said:

I'm confused, who's the immigrant?

I'm confused too. OP says he's the one filing ROC (meaning he's the immigrant), but in the last post he makes it sound as if the wife is the immigrant.


K-1: 12-22-2015 - 09-07-2016 (260 days)

AP: 12-20-2016 - 04-07-2017 (108 days)

EAD: 01-18-2017 - 05-30-2017 (132 days)

AOS: 12-20-2016 - 07-26-2017 (217 days)

 

ROC:

04-19-2019 - Earliest filing date

04-22-2019 - I-751 sent with USPS (AZ lockbox)

04-24-2019 - Delivered/Received date

04-30-2019 - Check cashed

04-30-2019 - NOA1 text/email (WAC)

05-03-2019 - NOA1 hardcopy/extension letter

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9 hours ago, Scandi said:

I'm confused too. OP says he's the one filing ROC (meaning he's the immigrant), but in the last post he makes it sound as if the wife is the immigrant.

One of those cases where the USC does everything and the immigrant never learns how to deal with US bureaucracy. 


Removal of Conditions Journey

3/3/2009 - Removal of conditions - sent off packet to CSC

3/5/2009 - I-751 received in CSC

3/9/2009 - Check cashed

3/20/2009 - Biometrics notice received (no NOA1)

4/2/2009 - Biometrics

4/9/2009 - NOA1 date (first undelivered one is 3/5)

4/3/2009 - Touch?

5/6/2009 - ROC Approval - 65 days

6/22/2009 - CRIS Card production ordered email

7/7/2009 - GC arrived!

Naturalization Journey

3/03/2010 N400 sent to Arizona Lockbox

3/15/2010 Check cashed

3/17/2010 NOA1

3/18/2010 - Biometrics notice sent

3/26/2010 Early biometrics done at an ASC different from the one assigned to (Original BIO date was 4/15)

4/30/2010 Yellow letter received and info from USCIS mil line they are working on my interview letter (6/17 appt)

5/1/2010 Text and email interview letter sen

5/6/2010 Interview letter received - scheduled for 6/17/2010 at 10:05am

6/17/2010 Interview appointment - PASSED

6/29/2010 US Citizen

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On 7/4/2019 at 3:37 PM, Lemonslice said:

I'm confused, who's the immigrant?

For clarity, I am the petitioner. Wife is the immigrant.


Our Timeline:

 

Met the woman of my dreams: 7/5/2014

Married the woman of my dreams: 1/18/2016

First child with wife born: 6/6/2016 (yay!)

 

K-3 to CR-1 Visa Processing:

 

4/11/2016:   I-130 Sent

4/13/2016:   NOA1

8/26/2016:   NOA2

9/20/2016:   NVC Receipt 

10/4/2016:   NVC Case # Assigned (My birthday woohoo!)

10/4/2016:   Submit DS-261 

10/5/2016:   DS-261 / AOS / IV Bill Recieved
10/6/2016:   Paid AOS & IV Bill

10/7/2016:   Send AOS & IV Package 

12/15/2016:  CC @ NVC 

12/28/2016:  P4 Received 

12/9/2016:   Interview Date Received for 2/9/2017

2/9/2017:     Interview Result: Approved

2/14/2017:   CR-1 Visa Received (Visa in Passport)

2/21/2017:   US POE Entry @ LAX

 

*Sarcastically* Trucking along thanks to the dedicated and hardworking individuals at the NVC. Brings me delight to finally be able to say, the light at the end of the tunnel is near.

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Just now, PandO said:

For clarity, I am the petitioner. Wife is the immigrant.

Then it's your wife who files for ROC, not you. Your initial post gets confusing when you word it like that. Thanks for clarification. Have you heard anything yet btw? Thinking if you have received an acceptance sms or letter?


K-1: 12-22-2015 - 09-07-2016 (260 days)

AP: 12-20-2016 - 04-07-2017 (108 days)

EAD: 01-18-2017 - 05-30-2017 (132 days)

AOS: 12-20-2016 - 07-26-2017 (217 days)

 

ROC:

04-19-2019 - Earliest filing date

04-22-2019 - I-751 sent with USPS (AZ lockbox)

04-24-2019 - Delivered/Received date

04-30-2019 - Check cashed

04-30-2019 - NOA1 text/email (WAC)

05-03-2019 - NOA1 hardcopy/extension letter

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Just now, Scandi said:

Then it's your wife who files for ROC, not you. Your initial post gets confusing when you word it like that. Thanks for clarification. Have you heard anything yet btw? Thinking if you have received an acceptance sms or letter?

No notifications yet :(. Was searching the forums to see if there is a way for me to find the status of it.

 

Sorry about the confusion - Fairly new to the whole thing and its a bit confusing for me as well.


Our Timeline:

 

Met the woman of my dreams: 7/5/2014

Married the woman of my dreams: 1/18/2016

First child with wife born: 6/6/2016 (yay!)

 

K-3 to CR-1 Visa Processing:

 

4/11/2016:   I-130 Sent

4/13/2016:   NOA1

8/26/2016:   NOA2

9/20/2016:   NVC Receipt 

10/4/2016:   NVC Case # Assigned (My birthday woohoo!)

10/4/2016:   Submit DS-261 

10/5/2016:   DS-261 / AOS / IV Bill Recieved
10/6/2016:   Paid AOS & IV Bill

10/7/2016:   Send AOS & IV Package 

12/15/2016:  CC @ NVC 

12/28/2016:  P4 Received 

12/9/2016:   Interview Date Received for 2/9/2017

2/9/2017:     Interview Result: Approved

2/14/2017:   CR-1 Visa Received (Visa in Passport)

2/21/2017:   US POE Entry @ LAX

 

*Sarcastically* Trucking along thanks to the dedicated and hardworking individuals at the NVC. Brings me delight to finally be able to say, the light at the end of the tunnel is near.

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Just now, PandO said:

No notifications yet :(. Was searching the forums to see if there is a way for me to find the status of it.

 

Sorry about the confusion - Fairly new to the whole thing and its a bit confusing for me as well.

You can call USCIS and ask for your status.


Timeline Info below:

Spoiler

04/21/16 -- Marriage

----- CR1 Process -----

USCIS Stage [222 days from NOA1]

06/08/16 -- Sent I-130

01/31/17 -- I-130 petition sent to NVC [Received Email notification and MyUscis status update]

NVC Stage [105 days from NOA2]

Embassy/Consulate (Interview) Stage [43 days from Case Complete to Visa in Hand]

05/18/17 -- Consulate Received. CEAC Case status changed to "Ready"

06/01/17 -- Medical Examination [Complete. It took around 2 hours. Total Cost INR 11650 for Surat City Apollo Clinic]

06/12/17 -- Biometric (OFC) Appointment

06/13/17 -- Interview [7:30 AM at Mumbai, India]. Visa Approved

06/15/17 -- Visa in hand

06/21/17 -- POE at DFW (Dallas, Texas)

----- Removal of Condition -----

Removal of Condition (I-751) [TBD]

06/18/2019 -- Sent the package (3 Days before GC expires, cutting it close). Sent to Lewisville, TX via FedEx Ground

06/19/2019 -- Package received at around 9:30 AM (Hoping I don't get rejected for missing deadline)

06/24/2019 -- Card was charged with $680 fees. Text Message received confirming Receipt. Case routed to NBC (Case Number starts with 'MSC')

06/28/2019 -- NOA Hard Copy & 18 Months Extension Letter Received in Mail with NOA Date as 06/19/2019

07/12/2019 -- Biomentrics Appointment Letter received. The Letter is Dated 7/5/2019. Appointment is on 7/22/2019

07/22/2019 -- Biometrics Appointment Complete

 

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