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12 minutes ago, DavidX said:

Everybody says don't do it. I wonder how many have actual experience with it? (notwithstanding that example from Australia, I suppose it could be a problem for some though.)

 

We checked with our immigration attorney, and he said it's not a problem in Thailand and that the Bangkok embassy staff is very familiar with the difference between a family ceremony only and a legal marriage registered with the local Aumpur.

 

-David

 

There have been numerous posters here over the past 3 years who can testify that the risk is real..........one is free to accept or ignore those examples of actual experience..

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1 minute ago, missileman said:

There have been numerous posters here over the past 3 years who can testify that the risk is real..........one is free to accept or ignore that risk.

 

Sure .. however ...

 

I don't think it's that straightforward. It probably depends on the local customs and the country. In Thailand, unofficial ceremonies are common.  We did seek professional advice in our case.

 

-David

 


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1 minute ago, DavidX said:

 

Sure .. however ...

 

I don't think it's that straightforward. It probably depends on the local customs and the country. In Thailand, unofficial ceremonies are common.  We did seek professional advice in our case.

 

-David

 

Agree that it varies from consulate to consulate....there is no set rule......but beware-  there have been more than a few examples of bad advice from attorneys reported here as well.....


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Posted (edited)

I imagine many people have ceremonies, religious or otherwise, without a problem. I'd even say it is likely the exception rather than the norm where it becomes an issue.

But the risk exists with every country, both with the CO to get the visa and with CBP when trying to enter via it. The CO may know local customs and can easily tell what may be married vs not, but I am very doubtful every CBP officer knows that.

 

Proceed at your own risk. Know that it can be and has been a reason for refusal of the visa and/or denial at POE. How much of a risk is debatable...but we do see multiple refusals every year due to being "too married" for similar actions on this website alone. It's not a "rare" event IMO...but probably is not the norm either.

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10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

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1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

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K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/17: sent

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4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

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AOS X5
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Oath 06-29-12

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