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Filed: Country: England
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Hi Everyone,

 

Would love your assistance in clarifying something for me :)

 

At present time, I'm married to a U.S citizen, and have been for 6+ years. I've also been a permanent resident for 5+ years. 

 

I went to the website to apply for Naturalization, and it automatically gave me the option to apply under the 5 years rule. (based on the pre-qualification questions, I assume). When I expanded, i saw that I could also apply under the "3 years of marriage" one.

 

That's all to ask: 

 

  • Can I apply using either? (3 years or 5 years?)
  • If so, is there a preferred one?
  • If not, why one should I go with?
  • What documents do I need if I apply under the 5 years rule?
  • Is there any difference (being easier or harder) 3 vs 5?

 

THANK YOU SO MUCH IN ADVANCE!

 

 

Edited by MannyNeto
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Apply under the 5 year rule.  It is easier.

March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Uruguay
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I'll be interested to know as well.

K-1 Visa process (I'm the USC [F]) [2018-2019]

Spoiler

Sent packet: August 10, 2018 (Lines Compressed to fit signature restriction guideline)

USCIS Received package: August 14 - Notification in text/email: August 17 - Mail received from USCIS: January 22, 2019
USCIS Approved I-129F Petition: January 17 - NVC Received Case: February 14 - NVC Case # Assigned: February 14

US Embassy Received: Not sure but got email reply - March 11 - Instructions Received via e-mail: March 19

Interview: May 7 - Approved! - Arriving to US/POE: June 12 - Married July 15, 2019

AOS Process [2019-2020]

Spoiler

Sent packet: July 27, 2019 - USCIS Received Package: July 29 - [Hiccup] Package was sent back due to incorrect fee and sent on August 5.
Notification in text/email: August 12 @ 12:30AM - Check cashed: August 12 - NOA 1 Mail: August 16 - Biometric: September 5 @ Atlanta, GA

AOS RFIE: Sept. 28 - got in mail by Oct 3. [They lost my Husband's Birth Certificate] - Sent back AOS RFIE: Oct 16 2019, at office by Oct 17.
AOS Case update notice on April 9th, 2020, waiting for mail. - Interview date: Scheduled as of July 15, date is August 19. Passed the interview!

My Husband got his GC! 2 Year Conditional Green Card expires 08/19/2022, Residence since 08/19/2020

ROC Process [2022-2024]

Spoiler

Sent packet: June 16, 2022 via USPS, USCIS Received Package: June 21
Notice in text (didn't get email nor text on other phone): June 24
Notice date: June 23, package is at SRC (Texas Service Center), Paid with Credit Card, payment taken on June 25
NOA 1 Mail: June 30, Biometric: Reused
Got letter in mail for extension: April 12th, Received date June 21, 2022, Notice date: April 5, 2023 = 48 Months Extension. No physical card yet.
Approved without interview as of Feb 15th, 2024. Was not a combo interview with N-400.

Naturalization N-400 [2023-2024]

Spoiler

Filed Online: July 28, 2023NOA: July 29, 2023
Service Center: NBC, application # starts with IOE#.
Biometrics waived. Got NOA mail Jan 5, 2024 says Interview in Nashville, TN on Feb 6, 2024.
Queue for review and approval. Already in line for Oath Ceremony as of Feb 13th, 2024.
NOA as of 4/29/24 - Oath Ceremony scheduled for May 30th in Chattanooga, TN. Rescheduled as of May 2nd, 2024 by USCIS - new date is May 29th.
May 29th - Naturalized! Ta-da!

Posted

Better apply under 5 year rule. The only documents you will provide are the Income Tax Transcript  from the IRS. It is also more convenient to apply online because as you are filling the form you'll find out what documents you need to provide. You can also apply under 3 year rule but you need to provide more and lots of documents so why go through that route if you can go to easier way.

 

God bless.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: England
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On 6/9/2019 at 10:28 PM, MannyNeto said:
  • Can I apply using either? (3 years or 5 years?)
  • If so, is there a preferred one?
  • If not, why one should I go with?
  • What documents do I need if I apply under the 5 years rule?
  • Is there any difference (being easier or harder) 3 vs 5?

 

Three years is a perk if you married a US citizen and stayed married to that USC. You have to submit extra documentation showing you're still married, living together, and sharing finances, etc. That's extra work you don't need to do now that you have reached 5 yrs as an LPR. 

 

 

Filed: IR-5 Country: England
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Applied under the five year rule, very straightforward. When I looked at what I would be forced to hand over under the three year rule, I decided to wait. I was separated from my American wife at the time I filed and this was barely discussed at the interview. 

 

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Can anyone comment on this situation?

 

LPR married to USC takes frequent trips outside the US for the first few years of marriage (but does not break the continuous presence rule, no trips exceed 6 months).  They then stay in the US for three years.  They may not meet the physical presence requirement of the 5 year rule, but they meet the requirement of the 3 year rule, can they select the 3 year rule in this case?

Obligatory disclaimer:  Not a lawyer.  Posts are written based on my own research and based on whatever information is provided.  Consult an immigration attorney regarding your specific case.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Sweden
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If you have been an LPR for 5 years or more, then you don't have a choice. You file under the 5 year rule. The 3 year rule is for those who are eligible and don't want to wait for 5 years, and you're way past that.

K-1: 12-22-2015 - 09-07-2016

AP: 12-20-2016 - 04-07-2017

EAD: 01-18-2017 - 05-30-2017

AOS: 12-20-2016 - 07-26-2017

ROC: 04-22-2019 - 04-22-2020
Naturalization: 05-01-2020 - 03-16-2021

U.S. passport: 03-30-2021 - 05-08-2021

En livstid i krig. Göteborg killed it. Epic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBs3G1PvyfM&ab_channel=Sabaton

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Sweden
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I wasn't sure what to chose so I went with 3 year but have been married for 6 🤷‍♀️

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Timeline for our K-1 Fiance Visa:

09-27-13: Sent to Texas Lockbox

09-30-13: Recieved by USCIS - Confirmation sent by email

10-03-13: NOA1 from USCIS by email

10-15-13: NOA1 , hardcopy recieved

10-24-13: Alien registration nr was changed

11-12-13: NOA2 from USCIS by email

11-18-13: NOA2 , hardcopy recieved

12-04-13: Our case was shipped to NVC

12-10-13: NVC recieved

12-13-13: Got NVC case nr

12-18-13: Case sent to embassy

01-17-14: Medical exam.

01-23-14: Interview appt.

01-27-14: RFE sent

02-04-14: Approved

02-06-14: Recieved my visa

02-10-14: Poe FLL

04-18-14: Got married

Timeline for my AOS:

09-27-14: Sent to Chicago lockbox

10-03-14: Recieved by USCIS - Confirmation sent by email

10-21-14: Recieved an rfe by email

11-19-14: Rfe recieved by USCIS

02-18-15: Recieved a NPIW letter

07-23-15: Greencard is being produced

07-23-15: A welcome letter has been mailed<p>

07-27-15: Received the welcome letter

08-18-15 card was mailed to me

08-20-15 Received greencard in mail

Timeline for my EAD:

09-27-14: Sent to Chicago Lockbox

09-30-14: Recieved by USCIS - Confirmation sent by email

12-02-14: EAD approved

12-01-15: Biometrics appt.

12-01-15: Card in process and are being mailed

20-01-15: EAD card recieved in the mail

 
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