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I don't smoke, and I definitely encourage others not to smoke..........but what is next?  Bacon????  I especially enjoyed this part: "Two years later, no one under 100 would be allowed to buy cigarettes."

 

https://abc30.com/society/hawaii-considers-ban-on-cigarette-sales/5119182/

 

 

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Hawaii has the 4th largest tax on cigarettes...  $3.20 a pack.  That's a lot of tax revenue to make up.....


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Just now, missileman said:

Hawaii has the 4th largest tax on cigarettes...  $3.20 a pack.  That's a lot of tax revenue to make up.....

Tax weed.  Its funny just how many people in the auto biz smoke.

 

One of my fav mangaers in the past two years has had a stroke and triple bypass. Still smokes two packs a day

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Don't think you can really compare cigarettes to bacon.

 

Although I'd say probably the best way to get rid of those nasty things would just be to raise taxes enough where a pack costs like $50.


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45 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Don't think you can really compare cigarettes to bacon.

 

Although I'd say probably the best way to get rid of those nasty things would just be to raise taxes enough where a pack costs like $50.

The 67 year old recent stroke/bypass/growth on lung i mentioned would pay, that but more than likely buy them on the black market which would thrive 

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46 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Don't think you can really compare cigarettes to bacon.

 

Although I'd say probably the best way to get rid of those nasty things would just be to raise taxes enough where a pack costs like $50.

I don't compare cigarettes to bacon.  However, there is always an attempt from politicians (left and some on the right) to save people from themselves.....


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The cigarette tax is a scam........over the years, I have seen states adopt a "temporary" cigarette tax which was used to fund things which will require additional tax sources later when cigarette tax revenues drop.


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3 hours ago, OriZ said:

Don't think you can really compare cigarettes to bacon.

 

Although I'd say probably the best way to get rid of those nasty things would just be to raise taxes enough where a pack costs like $50.

NY did that.  No pack of cigarettes can be sold for less than $15.

 

According to some muslims, bacon is much worse than bacon.

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4 hours ago, missileman said:

I don't smoke, and I definitely encourage others not to smoke..........but what is next?  Bacon????  I especially enjoyed this part: "Two years later, no one under 100 would be allowed to buy cigarettes."

 

https://abc30.com/society/hawaii-considers-ban-on-cigarette-sales/5119182/

 

 

 

   They mention the reason behind it as "protecting the public from themselves". Politicians need to stop talking and take a collective step back whenever they encounter that line of thinking. 

 

  I hate cigarettes, and there are few things that set me off more easily than walking into a cloud of someone's second hand cigarette smoke, but I just don't like the reasoning behind this. The point about bacon shouldn't be overlooked. A little unfair to bacon but I get the point. Obesity is going to kill a lot more people than cigarettes in the long run, and there is an epidemic of that in Hawaii too. There are so many dangerous and questionable habits that people have. We can't legislate all of them, and thinking we can is not a good approach. 

 

  I'd like to see better education on all these things. Just seeing the lungs of a long time smoker would be a deterrent for many people. Those that choose to smoke anyway, well we are all going to die someday. Assuming people do get something out of smoking, and recognized it is a trade off in health, that really is a choice people can make for themselves. 


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48 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

NY did that.  No pack of cigarettes can be sold for less than $15.

 

According to some muslims, bacon is much worse than bacon.

 

    The one thing that reminds me of is that Canadian bacon needs to be called out for what it really is. Ham.

 

    My standards for bacon can even accept that stuff made out of turkey, but don't give me ham and try to say it's bacon.   

 

   

 

   


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6 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   They mention the reason behind it as "protecting the public from themselves". Politicians need to stop talking and take a collective step back whenever they encounter that line of thinking. 

 

  I hate cigarettes, and there are few things that set me off more easily than walking into a cloud of someone's second hand cigarette smoke, but I just don't like the reasoning behind this. The point about bacon shouldn't be overlooked. A little unfair to bacon but I get the point. Obesity is going to kill a lot more people than cigarettes in the long run, and there is an epidemic of that in Hawaii too. There are so many dangerous and questionable habits that people have. We can't legislate all of them, and thinking we can is not a good approach. 

 

  I'd like to see better education on all these things. Just seeing the lungs of a long time smoker would be a deterrent for many people. Those that choose to smoke anyway, well we are all going to die someday. Assuming people do get something out of smoking, and recognized it is a trade off in health, that really is a choice people can make for themselves. 

Agree completely.......education and freedom to choose.


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