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A green-card holder voted illegally 3 times in NC. The judge scolds election officials.

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We hear so much about election fraud and also green card holders voting when the shouldn't. I wonder how many voted based on incorrect advice from election officials like the lady in the following article.

 

"RALEIGH 

Hyo Suk George lived legally in the United States for nearly 20 years before she voted in her first election, coaxed to cast her ballot by an enthusiastic town council member at church.

 

To register, she presented a green card, Social Security number and driver’s license — proof enough for the elections officials in Columbus County — then voted in 2008, 2010 and 2016."

 

But on Thursday, George, 70, faced charges of illegal voting from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, for which she might have spent six months in prison. Instead, U.S. District Court Judge Terrence Boyle chastised the elections board in Whiteville, letting George go with a $100 fine.

“So they see a green card and say, ‘That’s OK’ because they don’t know what they’re doing,” said Boyle, chief judge of the eastern district of North Carolina. “They ought to be a little smarter than that.”

 

https://amp.newsobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article224701095.html


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Since moving back to the US, I've often been genuinely shocked at how little my fellow Americans know about anything regarding green cards, immigration status, who can vote/who can't, etc.

 

My husband has been approached multiple, multiple times here by people asking him to register to vote. He has constantly had to clarify: I can't vote, I'm not a citizen. I'm sure if he did not inform them of that every time, they would just proceed to help him register. It's crazy, people are just really ill informed and I'm sure illegal voting happens a lot because those "get out the vote" volunteers often are just told to register as many people as possible, I doubt they are given a run-down of the actual laws on who can/cannot vote.


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Complete ignorance by the "everyone must vote" crazies.

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49 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

I think any election official who knowingly talks a non citizen into voting should go to jail.

IF you look up into the citizenship part of this forum, some people have been caught voting in Federal elections, nothing was done to them except some scolding.  Still got approved


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Back in 2016 when Katya was under LPR status, she came with me when I voted.  The poll worker was going to give her an application for a ballot with no questions at all, and she easily could have taken that, and filled out a ballot or at the very least a provisional ballot.  Of course we did not do that, but it was interesting.  Now she did vote legally for the first time in the 2018 primary s her naturalization oath had occurred a month or so before that was held.

 

The interesting thing is that we are always told that people ineligible to vote are non-existent, but they are there and every ineligible vote disenfranchises one person that is eligible to vote.  The whole equal and opposite reaction law, sorry, that is the engineer in me.

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3 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Back in 2016 when Katya was under LPR status, she came with me when I voted.  The poll worker was going to give her an application for a ballot with no questions at all, and she easily could have taken that, and filled out a ballot or at the very least a provisional ballot.  Of course we did not do that, but it was interesting.  Now she did vote legally for the first time in the 2018 primary s her naturalization oath had occurred a month or so before that was held.

 

The interesting thing is that we are always told that people ineligible to vote are non-existent, but they are there and every ineligible vote disenfranchises one person that is eligible to vote.  The whole equal and opposite reaction law, sorry, that is the engineer in me.

Yes, it happens.  Has been, for years.  But we are told that it’s nigh onto impossible for it to happen, or that it happens in such small numbers so as to not change the results.

 

I have the same issue with that line of thinking that I have with the number of illegals who just cross the border at will. There is NO WAY of knowing!  Whether it is 1, 100, 1000, or 10,000, it DOES matter.  And it DOES happen.  We just rarely hear about it.  Thankfully, there exist honest people like you and Katya that don’t take advantage of a situation.

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It’s easy to register to vote here. You don’t even have to appear in person. As long as you have a MA RMV ID, you can lie and say you are a citizen and register online. Voter fraud appears to be easy, although doing it on a large coordinated scale would be difficult, IMO. 


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