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My N-400 was recently denied after USCIS discovered in their system withdrawal of I-129F.

 

When I still was in the country of my origin, my fiancé in response to RFE sent to USCIS withdrawal of I-129F during our breakup. Shortly after that I received approval of I-129F. Then my fiancé called USCIS about the withdrawal but 2 different representatives assured him that everything was OK and there was no withdrawal they could see in the system, they said they only see response to RFE (which was not correct, neither me nor fiancé sent any response to RFE, only withdrawal).

 

Since I-129F was approved, we continued with the process.

I came to U.S. on K-1 visa, received GC, filed for N-400.

 

I thought citizenship interview went well. During the interview the officer said she would require the original of a document (I only had a copy of the document during the interview) and she said I would receive RFE via mail.

 

She did not send RFE.

 

Two months after the citizenship interview I received a denial letter.

 

The denial letter says:

"The approval of any petition is automatically terminated when the petitioner dies or files a written withdrawal of the petition before the beneficiary arrives in the United States".

"Because the withdrawal predated the approval of your I-129F petition you are subject to the withdrawal regulation 8 CFR 103.2(b)(6)."

"Withdrawal may not be retracted."

"Because a withdrawal may not be retracted and may not be refused, USCIS cannot adjudicate a petition that has been withdrawn".

 

However, USCIS did adjudicate the petition in my case and now, years later, states that I was "not lawfully admitted for permanent residence" and, therefore, not eligible for citizenship.

 

I found in their manual the following:

"When the petition has been used, in effect, it no longer exists and the approval cannot be revoked. The appropriate course of action in that case is to institute deportation or rescission proceedings."

 

In my case, it seems like they are trying retroactively, without due process, to automatically revoke I-129F. However, per their own manual it cannot be revoked because it has been already used. Their only option is to deport me. However, how is it possible if I did not do anything wrong? 

 

I have 30 days to appeal - to file N-336. 

 

Any thoughts on how to appeal this?

If appeal gets denied, what is my option?

Should I go back to the country of origin and start the process from the scratch (with a difference that now I'm a spouse of the U.S. citizen and will be applying for visa CR1)? 

Is there any way to stay in the U.S. and try to file again for GC (perhaps, together with filing I-601A Application for Provisional Unlawful Presence)?

 

Thank you for your time!

 

 

 

 

   

Edited by Kiolas

ROC

12/11/2018 - I-751 mailed (requested a fee waiver) to Lewisville, TX via FedEx

12/13/2018 - package delivered 

01/02/2019 - received text message from USCIS with case number starting with EAC

01/12/2019 - submitted online e-Request for non-delivery of NOA (the extension letter)

01/24/2019 - received the response to e-Request via e-mail, which says: "Please allow 30 days from the date of this correspondence for the notice to be sent".

01/28/2019 - received NOA (the extension letter), which extends GC for 18 months

01/29/2019 - received biometrics appointment letter

02/08/2019 - biometrics completed

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Posted

Oh dear!  Have you actually gotten a deportation notice?

 

But yes, it is time to call a competent lawyer.  

 

Good luck 

USCIS
August 12, 2008 - petition sent
August 16, 2008 - NOA-1
February 10, 2009 - NOA-2
178 DAYS FROM NOA-1


NVC
February 13, 2009 - NVC case number assigned
March 12, 2009 - Case Complete
25 DAY TRIP THROUGH NVC


Medical
May 4, 2009


Interview
May, 26, 2009


POE - June 20, 2009 Toronto - Atlanta, GA

Removal of Conditions
Filed - April 14, 2011
Biometrics - June 2, 2011 (early)
Approval - November 9, 2011
209 DAY TRIP TO REMOVE CONDITIONS

Citizenship

April 29, 2013 - NOA1 for petition received

September 10, 2013 Interview - decision could not be made.

April 15, 2014 APPROVED. Wait for oath ceremony

Waited...

September 29, 2015 - sent letter to senator.

October 16, 2015 - US Citizen

Posted
3 minutes ago, canadian_wife said:

Oh dear!  Have you actually gotten a deportation notice?

 

No, I did not get deportation notice yet because I just received a denial letter. 

ROC

12/11/2018 - I-751 mailed (requested a fee waiver) to Lewisville, TX via FedEx

12/13/2018 - package delivered 

01/02/2019 - received text message from USCIS with case number starting with EAC

01/12/2019 - submitted online e-Request for non-delivery of NOA (the extension letter)

01/24/2019 - received the response to e-Request via e-mail, which says: "Please allow 30 days from the date of this correspondence for the notice to be sent".

01/28/2019 - received NOA (the extension letter), which extends GC for 18 months

01/29/2019 - received biometrics appointment letter

02/08/2019 - biometrics completed

 

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Posted

You need a lawyer. There are probono groups that may be able to help you if you can not afford an attny. 

 

If you choose not to seek out help from an attny try the other immigration site (immigrate2us) as they deal with complex matters, but an attny is your best bet. You are not going to be able to do anything about the revocation to be honest. But they can help you close out the current 129f-485 you are "on" properly and refile as a spouse (waiver needed) where you only need to leave the US for interview and dont have to wait out the whole process overseas.

 

Obviously do not leave the US right now.

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Posted

This is bad.  They will (try to) retroactively void all subsequent immigration benefits making your US presence illegal from the time you arrived.  Previous advice was correct.  You definitely need legal representation.  The good news is that you are likely to win but you're in for a bit of a fight through immigration court.

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Canada
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Posted (edited)

Are you still married to the fiance who petitioned you? What was the document they needed original of?

 

10 hours ago, Kiolas said:

Should I go back to the country of origin and start the process from the scratch (with a difference that now I'm a spouse of the U.S. citizen and will be applying for visa CR1)? 

Is there any way to stay in the U.S. and try to file again for GC (perhaps, together with filing I-601A Application for Provisional Unlawful Presence)?   

Definitely no to the first one. If they do in fact say all your time in the US has been unlawful presence, then leaving will trigger a 10 year ban for re-entry.

 

I imagine if your appeal fails you may get an NTA and the immigration judge is the one who would revoke your permanent residency and perhaps issue a removal notice. Actually there was recent news - bad news for you - that a denial of an immigration benefit would automatically lead to a removal notice.  Anyway, I'm hoping that well ahead of appearing in front of a judge you would be able to file an adjustment of status (AOS) application - for that, your illegal stay is forgiven and you don't need a waiver.  There are complications with this because of your issue, but bring this up as an option with your lawyer (you need one!) and see what s/he says. 

Edited by Teemo
Posted
35 minutes ago, Teemo said:

Are you still married to the fiance who petitioned you?

 

Yes.

ROC

12/11/2018 - I-751 mailed (requested a fee waiver) to Lewisville, TX via FedEx

12/13/2018 - package delivered 

01/02/2019 - received text message from USCIS with case number starting with EAC

01/12/2019 - submitted online e-Request for non-delivery of NOA (the extension letter)

01/24/2019 - received the response to e-Request via e-mail, which says: "Please allow 30 days from the date of this correspondence for the notice to be sent".

01/28/2019 - received NOA (the extension letter), which extends GC for 18 months

01/29/2019 - received biometrics appointment letter

02/08/2019 - biometrics completed

 

Posted

I spoke to many attorneys (including free and paid consultations) and each of them had a different answer. I am very confused what to do.

  • Some of them told me do nothing, wait for Immigration Judge to decide, if necessary -  file waiver(s). 
  • One of the attorneys suggested to file I-130/I-485.
  • Another attorney suggested to leave the U.S., return back to my country, file I-407 and then file I-130. However, he did not consider the fact that USCIS thinks that my K-1 visa was invalid when I entered the U.S. 

If USCIS thinks that my K-1 visa was invalid when I entered the U.S. as well as my conditional green card, is it possible to file I-130/I-485 now? I feel USCIS will deny. Am I wrong?

ROC

12/11/2018 - I-751 mailed (requested a fee waiver) to Lewisville, TX via FedEx

12/13/2018 - package delivered 

01/02/2019 - received text message from USCIS with case number starting with EAC

01/12/2019 - submitted online e-Request for non-delivery of NOA (the extension letter)

01/24/2019 - received the response to e-Request via e-mail, which says: "Please allow 30 days from the date of this correspondence for the notice to be sent".

01/28/2019 - received NOA (the extension letter), which extends GC for 18 months

01/29/2019 - received biometrics appointment letter

02/08/2019 - biometrics completed

 

Posted

So sorry about this, i can imagine how stressful and confusing all these can be.  So i am not lawyer but i would NOT advice anyone to leave at this point, i honestly think that would complicate issues further. Since youre still married to your spouse starting a new application for l 130 and l485 seems like the best thing to do with an attorney course. The old one while invalid cannot invalidate a new application with your spouse sponsoring you.

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Life_love said:

So sorry about this, i can imagine how stressful and confusing all these can be.  So i am not lawyer but i would NOT advice anyone to leave at this point, i honestly think that would complicate issues further. Since youre still married to your spouse starting a new application for l 130 and l485 seems like the best thing to do with an attorney course. The old one while invalid cannot invalidate a new application with your spouse sponsoring you.

 

 

Life_love,

thank you for your response.

 

I'm absolutely agree with you that I cannot leave the country. But that was what paid attorney suggested. Attorneys do not feel responsible for their advice. They tell lies just to get $$$. 

 

Right now I still have a conditional GC (until Immigration Judge decides otherwise). I just do not understand how is it possible to apply I-130/I-485 if USCIS thinks my entry was under invalid K-1 visa.

 

My understanding is that I can file any forms I want with USCIS. However, the filing will not change the USCIS position that I entered the country under invalid K-1 visa. Therefore, I will face removal proceedings. 

 

Yes, I can file I-130/I-485. But USCIS will deny. There is no way to escape removal proceedings. Please, explain if I'm wrong. 

 

 

ROC

12/11/2018 - I-751 mailed (requested a fee waiver) to Lewisville, TX via FedEx

12/13/2018 - package delivered 

01/02/2019 - received text message from USCIS with case number starting with EAC

01/12/2019 - submitted online e-Request for non-delivery of NOA (the extension letter)

01/24/2019 - received the response to e-Request via e-mail, which says: "Please allow 30 days from the date of this correspondence for the notice to be sent".

01/28/2019 - received NOA (the extension letter), which extends GC for 18 months

01/29/2019 - received biometrics appointment letter

02/08/2019 - biometrics completed

 

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Canada
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Posted
9 hours ago, Kiolas said:

Life_love,

thank you for your response.

 

I'm absolutely agree with you that I cannot leave the country. But that was what paid attorney suggested. Attorneys do not feel responsible for their advice. They tell lies just to get $$$. 

 

Right now I still have a conditional GC (until Immigration Judge decides otherwise). I just do not understand how is it possible to apply I-130/I-485 if USCIS thinks my entry was under invalid K-1 visa.

 

My understanding is that I can file any forms I want with USCIS. However, the filing will not change the USCIS position that I entered the country under invalid K-1 visa. Therefore, I will face removal proceedings. 

 

Yes, I can file I-130/I-485. But USCIS will deny. There is no way to escape removal proceedings. Please, explain if I'm wrong. 

 

 

I see a good chance for no removal. Saying that in hindsight your visa was not valid is not the same as unlawfully entered without inspection. So you entered lawfully and overstayed, amd overstay is forgiven to spouses of US Citizens. Apply away. That is, if you don't think they will reverse their decision. But how can you apply for I-485 until they revoke your green card? That is one of a number confusing aspects, but I believe you are not very likely to be removed. 

Posted
13 hours ago, Teemo said:

But how can you apply for I-485 until they revoke your green card? 

Exactly!

Can you imagine, this suggestion came from the attorney:whistle:.

The attorneys lie just to rip off people who are in stress.

ROC

12/11/2018 - I-751 mailed (requested a fee waiver) to Lewisville, TX via FedEx

12/13/2018 - package delivered 

01/02/2019 - received text message from USCIS with case number starting with EAC

01/12/2019 - submitted online e-Request for non-delivery of NOA (the extension letter)

01/24/2019 - received the response to e-Request via e-mail, which says: "Please allow 30 days from the date of this correspondence for the notice to be sent".

01/28/2019 - received NOA (the extension letter), which extends GC for 18 months

01/29/2019 - received biometrics appointment letter

02/08/2019 - biometrics completed

 

Posted
20 minutes ago, Kiolas said:

Exactly!

Can you imagine, this suggestion came from the attorney:whistle:.

The attorneys lie just to rip off people who are in stress.

My sense is that this needs to go high enough in the system to get to the level where someone has the authority to fix their mess 

The officer who reviewed your N400 does not have the authority to ignore or remove the I129f withdrawal letter from your file. Once it was discovered he/she had to trigger a procedural action, no matter how wrong it may have seemed to him. The actions that have resulted as a consequence are consistent with their process.. I would think that no one below an Immigration judge has the authority to overrule the decisions. It will need to run its course.. and I hope that the outcome will be as it should be.. make sure your husband is in court with you !!! 

 
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