Lack of Parental Support for CR1 & K1 in Indian Consulates

[Russ&Caro 1,548]

2 minutes ago, Sue You said:

Dude... you are way to young. Give it time and be patient. Online compatibility is far great but the chemistry when you meet and how long that lasts is a completely different matter. Don't take this the wrong way but you probably already know this.... Don't  rush in to it.

He's 23. That's too young? He's also traveled to Russia. International travel can be a maturing experience. His English is pretty good so he seems educated. I agree with you that he needs a little patience in developing the relationship and going through immigration process but everyone needs patience for this. It's not age or maturity related.

[AnonIndia 58]

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3 minutes ago, Russ&Caro said:

You don't need parental support to pursue immigration via k1 or cr1. Meet your girlfriend one or more times, decide whether k1 or cr1 is best for you, then follow the guides to successfully apply for a visa. Good luck.

Yeah I believe that's the case but we have been reading so many cases of K1 and even CR1 being denied in the case of Indian interracial couples becasuse of lack of parental approval. Some cases were denied because the male failed even to mention to his parents about the existence of a relationship. i don't approve of that but I know for sure 100% my mom won't approve of me marrying a white Caucasian because I brought up my ex Russian girlfriend once to my mom and she absolutely went berserk. 

 

[Sue You 17]

Just now, Russ&Caro said:

He's 23. That's too young? He's also traveled to Russia. International travel can be a maturing experience. His English is pretty good so he seems educated. I agree with you that he needs a little patience in developing the relationship and going through immigration process but everyone needs patience for this. It's not age or maturity related.

From personal experience I know for a fact that at 23 I felt i was matured. But in my mid 30s now looking back I now realize my mistakes, my impatience, my immature resistance and lack of persistence so on...

You are all the people you meet along your life. They mold you in to who you are.... The further along you are in life the more you realize who you really are.  At 35 I am a better person, more mature and realize that there is more to learn.

 

All I am saying is proceed with patience and caution.  

Life has more to teach and the maturity that you have today is merely a grape in bunch of grapes on a grapevine in a vineyard. I am just saying this from experience from love lost, to abusive relationships to humbling experiences. But I digress from the matter at hand.  My apologies.

[TNJ17 1,329]

20 minutes ago, Sue You said:

Dude... you are way to young. Give it time and be patient. Online compatibility is far great but the chemistry when you meet and how long that lasts is a completely different matter. Don't take this the wrong way but you probably already know this.... Don't  rush in to it.

Yeah, dude. You gotta meet a few times first in order to know for sure. I don’t believe in online dating but whatever peels your bananas. But there are certain things about each other that you only know after spending a lot of time together. Ever heard of that saying “you gotta test drive the car before you buy it”? It applies to relationships too, man. 

 

I don’t think family approval should have a say in who you marry but for high fraud countries like yours, it has heavy weight on the decision at the embassy apparently. In my opinion getting an affidavit from your folks saying they don’t approve of the relationship is the last nail on your coffin.  Take your time, do it right. Don’t fight. Win the family over somehow. 

Edited December 13, 2017 by TNJ17

[AnonIndia 58]

@Russ&Caro Thanks dude. I went to Russia at the age of 17 on my own to study medicine. But I dropped out in spectacular fashion. I am now back in India working in the local gym as a trainer. 

 

1 minute ago, Sue You said:

From personal experience I know for a fact that at 23 I felt i was matured. But in my mid 30s now looking back I now realize my mistakes, my impatience, my immature resistance and lack of persistence so on...

You are all the people you meet along your life. They mold you in to who you are.... The further along you are in life the more you realize who you really are.  At 35 I am a better person, more mature and realize that there is more to learn.

 

All I am saying is proceed with patience and caution.  

Life has more to teach and the maturity that you have today is merely a grape in bunch of grapes on a grapevine in a vineyard. I am just saying this from experience from love lost, to abusive relationships to humbling experiences. But I digress from the matter at hand.  My apologies.

No need to apologize you said nothing wrong but it's so incredibly frustrating with both of us being young and not being able to be together both emotionally and physically. I understand we are a little impatient and wanna be together as soon possible I am just looking at all our options moving forward. Seems like there are 108 hurdles in front of us and we want to be prepared for all outcomes. 

 

[AnonIndia 58]

@TNJ17 I agree. But I have very very little hope of my mom approving our relationship. Last time I brought up my ex who was a Russian white girl she went nuts. She has a incredibly low opinion of whites for some reason. I guess it is due to her preconceived notions about Hollywood, porn and other stuff. I feel like we will have a bad outcome no matter whether we apply for CR1 or K1. 

[gabreigns 75]

4 minutes ago, Sue You said:

From personal experience I know for a fact that at 23 I felt i was matured. But in my mid 30s now looking back I now realize my mistakes, my impatience, my immature resistance and lack of persistence so on...

You are all the people you meet along your life. They mold you in to who you are.... The further along you are in life the more you realize who you really are.  At 35 I am a better person, more mature and realize that there is more to learn.

 

All I am saying is proceed with patience and caution.  

Life has more to teach and the maturity that you have today is merely a grape in bunch of grapes on a grapevine in a vineyard. I am just saying this from experience from love lost, to abusive relationships to humbling experiences. But I digress from the matter at hand.  My apologies.

 

2 minutes ago, TNJ17 said:

Yeah, dude. You gotta meet a few times first in order to know for sure. I don’t believe in online but whatever peels your bananas. But there are certain things about each other that you only know after spending a lot of time together. Ever heard of that saying “you gotta test drive the car before you buy it”? It applies to relationships too, man. 

 

I don’t think family approval should have a say in who you marry but for high fraud countries like yours, it has heavy weight on the decision at the embassy apparently. In my opinion getting an affidavit from your folks saying they don’t approve of the relationship is the last nail on your coffin.  Take your time, do it right. Don’t fight. Win the family over somehow. 

@Sue You That is some deep stuff right there. 

 

@TNJ17 is right. well said both of you!

[Boiler 43,494]

Give it time, a few visits, she can met her, she may come around.

[AnonIndia 58]

@Boiler I introduced my ex through Skype a few years ago and  my mom yelled obscenities at her. It was just an utterly bitter experience.

[TNJ17 1,329]

3 minutes ago, AnonIndia said:

@Boiler I introduced my ex through Skype a few years ago and  my mom yelled obscenities at her. It was just an utterly bitter experience.

Yeah man your mother is racist, we get it. But regardless you still need to meet a few times in order to know if you both want to marry each other and to fullfil the USCIS requirements whatever route you choose. 

[AnonIndia 58]

@TNJ17 She is coming over to India to meet me and stay with me for 2 weeks coming January 2018. I will let you guys know how it goes and and what we have decided to do moving forward. Thinking about all the road blocks that are before us is just so depressing. 

Edited December 13, 2017 by AnonIndia

[TNJ17 1,329]

2 minutes ago, AnonIndia said:

@TNJ17 She is coming over to India to meet me and stay with me for 2 weeks coming January 2018. I will let you guys know how it goes and and what we have decided to do moving forward. Thinking about all the road blocks that are before us is just so depressing. 

You don’t need to let us know man. If you’re looking for approval from strangers on the internet then it doesn’t sound like you’re sure about this relationship yourself. You need to live your life the best way you know how given the circumstances of your life. We are all here to help each other out with immigration stuff. What you do in your own life is no one’s business but your own and those directly involved. 

[AnonIndia 58]

@TNJ17 I am sure about our relationship. It is 100% solid. I am just not sure about the bureaucracy and paperwork that awaits us. Needing parental approval when we are both consenting adults is bullcrap but I guess that's how it is. Can't complain about that with India being a high fraud country. I just want to know if there have been interracial Indian couples in the past that have successfully jumped through all the hoops without parental approval.  

[WeGuyGal 1,052]

1 hour ago, AnonIndia said:

My girl doesn't have a stable job yet and she is making below poverty level as well. She would need a joint sponsor when she files for CR1. What are the possible red flags you guys can find in our relationship? I also tried to get a US tourist visa twice in quick succession when I was in Russia to go see her. i was denied twice. I told the Consular Officer that my intention was purely tourism. I can get PCC from the Russian embassy no problem. Also found this PDF titles USCIS FRAUD REFERRAL SHEET somewhere. Maybe here. I don't remember. Take a look at it guys. 

USCIS_Fraud_Referral_Sheet.pdf

Why do you seem concerned about fraud?  That's a bigger red flag to me.. more than your seemingly racist mother's antics. 

 

Having been to India, doesn't surprise me that young men seek out Western women online. The two B2 denials in quick succession, and a K1 hunt before any first meeting suggests desperation on your part. Precisely why India is known to be tough for immigrant visas. That's how a Mumbai CO is likely to view this. 

[AnonIndia 58]

@WeGuyGal I assure you there is no fraud going on in our situation. It is smart and forward thinking to analyze how our case would be viewed by a Consular Officer. It doesn't denote or prove the existence of fraudulent intentions. We are both desperate to just see each other. We have tried three times to see each other and we failed on all three times. 2 times due to US tourist visa denial and one Italian vacation was cancelled due to her godmother getting ill. She had to take care of her. I personally know 2 'convenience marriages' that occurred in Australia just to get the guy inside the US. They openly state it on online forums too. Happens all the time.  Fraudulent white couples with no cultural differences and both from first world countries look flawless on paper. They just get away with it more.