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My husband went to his interview only days ago.. It did not go well. The man got very angry with my husband and basically accused him of lieing. The application wanted to know my childs name and info which i provided to the lawyer. He told me he will remove her info because law requires info of minor children not my adult daughters info. 

 

So when my husband had his interview and said i had a daughter the interviewer became angry and basically yelled at my husbad and said i had no daughter. He explained i do. Her age and birthdate and that she was adopted.. My husband mistakenly said she was 20 but she just turned 21 and the man yelled mistake at my husband.. 

 

Another issue was he asked about my past marriage. He told the man i was divorced from my ex larry and his last name.. The interviewer said mistake again to my husband and my husband repeated larry and his last name then said lawrence which is his legal name.. 

 

Also since i had annulment i was told it was erased  so i never have to worry about that with my 1st ex.. I did provide that documents to the lawyers but i never discussed him with my husband due to a painful experience.. So he did not know him.. The interviewer was upset that he didnt know this.. 

 

The interviewer gave my husband a form saying we needed to provide additional info which was our wedding pictures but we never had any because the process of getting married in cairo is crazy at the ministry of foreign affairs.. We thought we get our papers finalized and then we would go to a small room and have the ceremony.. Well that didnt happen like that.. We were at the desk and he asked us if we accept one another and he signed after our fingerprints and that was it we were married.. So we did not get any pictures unfortunately.. Not to mention we couldnt have fit another person into that tiny space. 

 

I am afraid we will get denied.. We did not lie.. We love each other. He just had a horrible interview and we want to know can he get a second interview to prove yes i have an adopted daughter. He wasnt lieing.. Yes he did make a mistake and say she was 20.. But she just turned 21.. And it was my fault for not discussing a painful topic but i didnt know my husband needed all the info on a relationship that was years ago.. I dont know why that matters.. Did i mess up. Do we have a chance.. 

 

I am so afraid.. 

 

Help please 

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It's very unusual that you didn't discuss your prior marriage with your husband. I understand it was a painful experience but your husband would love and support you, not criticize you about it. I can see why that was a red flag for the interviewer - he might assume you are hiding other things from your husband. 

 

All you you can do is provide what they have asked for. Did you take no pictures at all on your wedding day? Did you not go out to dinner to celebrate or have a party with friends? 

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I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

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Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

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"A painful experience" is not an excuse not to mention a prior marriage to your current husband.  You might get away with that when no immigration process involved, but clearly you don't get away with it, when involved in a spouse visa process.  You can explain all you want, but a Consular Officer is still going to make a judgment call based on their understanding of the totality of circumstances.

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@pushbrk is correct. You are dealing with immigration here. Any other situation you could handle it a different way.

 

The problem is not about you lying in your case, it is about a huge lack of communication of an important part of your life whether good or bad. I kind of feel bad for your husband because he was put in a bad situation in that interview when the topic of your ex came up.

 

Best to have a heart to heart discussion about each other's past in case there is another interview. And on top of that, it may strengthen your marriage.

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So your daughter is 21, how old is your husband?  I think this might be a red flag depending on the age.

3/2/18  E-filed N-400 under 5 year rule

3/26/18 Biometrics

7/2019-12/2019 (Yes, 16- 21 months) Estimated time to interview MSP office.

 

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I didnt say we didn't talk about my past marriage. I just said i didnt go into great detail on it.. I dont think its appropriate for one and two it is a painful past id rather leave in the past.. As far as the age of my adopted daughter. I am not sure why her being 21 is a red flag.. My husband is much older than her.. What are you saying they think we are matriwd and he will go to her?? 

The issue on my daughter was he incorrectly said she was 20 not 21.. She had just turned 21 a month prior.. Thats not a red flag. I dont remember my patents ages unless i do some math.. And sometimes i mispeak their age as well.. 

 

I think if you want to find a problem with an person you will. Even an anegl can look guilty of you want to find dirt.. 

 

I was just trying to find some answers as to why this guy was so angry and whatnot with my husband. 

 

Its odd how people just assume you did something bad, or wrong or intend to .. That to me is odd.. 

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1 hour ago, Blaziingbulldog said:

I didnt say we didn't talk about my past marriage. I just said i didnt go into great detail on it.. I dont think its appropriate for one and two it is a painful past id rather leave in the past.. As far as the age of my adopted daughter. I am not sure why her being 21 is a red flag.. My husband is much older than her.. What are you saying they think we are matriwd and he will go to her?? 

 

Most people would not agree on the appropriate issue regarding discussing previous marriages and COs are kind of going on the standard of what is common.  The age of your daughter or whether you had one or not would be relevant if they were close in age.  Let's say you were 45 and your husband was 25, as sometimes happens in scam marriages in MENA areas... that would be a big issue.  Obviously, that isn't the case here.

 

 

3/2/18  E-filed N-400 under 5 year rule

3/26/18 Biometrics

7/2019-12/2019 (Yes, 16- 21 months) Estimated time to interview MSP office.

 

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2 hours ago, Blaziingbulldog said:

I didnt say we didn't talk about my past marriage. I just said i didnt go into great detail on it.. I dont think its appropriate for one and two it is a painful past id rather leave in the past..

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Its odd how people just assume you did something bad, or wrong or intend to .. That to me is odd.. 

It is however the way many US embassies approach marriage- related visas and hence why people here ask questions like that - in other words, what would make the embassy think this could just be a green card marriage? You asked for help, one of the ways people here help is trying to figure things out from that angle to try see what is going on and therefore what suggestions  to make.

 

unfortunateiy, although your reasons may have been valid, your new husband not knowing about a previous marriage is a flag to them. 

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I'm not sure why many are assuming she didn't reveal her prior marriage to her current husband. Her post is pretty clear that the consular officer asked about her ex and her husband answered that she was divorced from Larry LastName and the officer said this was wrong and asked for the name again so her husband said the name again but then changed the name to Lawrence which I'm assuming is his legal name so the husband probably realized this was why the consular officer was saying he was wrong and changed his answer...

 

"Another issue was he asked about my past marriage. He told the man i was divorced from my ex larry and his last name.. The interviewer said mistake again to my husband and my husband repeated larry and his last name then said lawrence which is his legal name.. "

 

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4 minutes ago, tsabbas said:

I'm not sure why many are assuming she didn't reveal her prior marriage to her current husband. Her post is pretty clear that the consular officer asked about her ex and her husband answered that she was divorced from Larry LastName and the officer said this was wrong and asked for the name again so her husband said the name again but then changed the name to Lawrence which I'm assuming is his legal name so the husband probably realized this was why the consular officer was saying he was wrong and changed his answer...

 

"Another issue was he asked about my past marriage. He told the man i was divorced from my ex larry and his last name.. The interviewer said mistake again to my husband and my husband repeated larry and his last name then said lawrence which is his legal name.. "

 

I understood that she was married three times, current marriage, one divorce, one annulment.

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12 minutes ago, tsabbas said:

I'm not sure why many are assuming she didn't reveal her prior marriage to her current husband. Her post is pretty clear that the consular officer asked about her ex and her husband answered that she was divorced from Larry LastName and the officer said this was wrong and asked for the name again so her husband said the name again but then changed the name to Lawrence which I'm assuming is his legal name so the husband probably realized this was why the consular officer was saying he was wrong and changed his answer...

 

"Another issue was he asked about my past marriage. He told the man i was divorced from my ex larry and his last name.. The interviewer said mistake again to my husband and my husband repeated larry and his last name then said lawrence which is his legal name.. "

 

She said she hadn’t mentioned her first marriage, which got annulled, to him but the embassy knew about it so it looked bad when the new husband didn’t know about it.

Posted

Even if it was your lawyer that told you not to include things the CO will hold you to account because you signed the forms saying you swear it to be true, ignorance or misinformation is not an excuse for them in this process.

 

Discussing your marital past including the annulment with your husband is appropriate especially when it comes to one who is dealing with the immigration process, if you were saying discussing it with your daughter would be inappropriate then yes everyone would agree. Your husband needs to know you in and out for this process and because he would be moving for you. For immigration purposes annulments don’t mean the marriage didn’t happen so you can’t ignore them.

 

 

Your daughters age relative to your husbands age is rellevent as in some cultures the idea that a man marries a much older woman who is past the age to have children is very frowned upon and would be a red flag.

 

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AOS/EAD Date Filed : 2014-04-04 BioAppt: 2014-05-13 EAD in Production: 2014-07-08 Interview date: 2014-07-14 Green Card received: 2014-07-19

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The key here is that this process requires candid communication, whether anybody feels comfortable with it, or thinks it is appropriate.  It was a mistake not to make full disclosure regarding the annulled marriage.   That's water under the bridge.  Yes, from the description of the interview, the Officer seems far out of line but we were not there and don't know what actually happened.  We just have an emotional interpretation of what happened from a distraught applicant, filtered through the emotions and thoughts of the distraught petitioner.

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Please get this right i didnt say i didnt tell my husband about my ex or the annulment he just didn't  have his last name.. So the man wanted  to know his legal name not his as you would say nick name.. It is a given information for americans but foreigners dont always understand a name like beth for example is short for Elizabeth.. That is what i meant.. As for my lieing about my daughter. The paperwork specifically said children under the age of 18 at the time of marriage she was 19 about to turn 20 the next day.. 

 

I was crazy to post here looking to see if anyone had any knowlege if you get sexond interview once you submitted the requested information.. You people only search to insult or accuse.. I didnt lie to my husband about anything and definitely didnt lie to the interviewer.. Wow.. Amazing stuff here

 
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