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Filed: Timeline
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Hi all,

I'm US citizen and my fiance is Peruvian. We do not plan on living in US, we are both working in Lima. We want to go for my sister's wedding in USA. What's the best way to apply for US visa for tourism, can I somehow vouch for my fiance financially, I do have many assets in US, and can provide all the financial responsibility for our trip. How do I proceed so that the application doesn't get denied for reasons that she might want to stay in US.

 

We are planning to get married, but have no plans on residing in US, so I don't want to apply for fiance visa.

 

Thoughts? 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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Posted (edited)

You can not do anything to sponsor or vouch for her.  She will have to apply and qualify for the visa strictly on her own.  She must show strong ties to her country in order to convince the border authorities that she will return to Peru.

 

EDIT:  Your evidence to financially support her visit could have an adverse effect...

Edited by missileman

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Posted (edited)

She applies for the visa, interviews, and finds out. There's nothing you can do to help her chances...just support her emotionally and/or help fill out the DS-160. She can compile evidence of her ties to return home to present to the CO (i.e. employment letter, bank statements, etc.). It's unlikely they will look at it, but better to have it than not have it.

 

Be honest, be upfront, and be ready.

Edited by geowrian

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: India
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Posted

Your fiance can file her own tourist visa. As a fiance you cannot do anything. As a spouse you could show financial support but not as a fiance.

She needs to show strong ties to her country to make them believe that she will return ( job/family/bank / property etc) 

Do not show any relationships in usa, even your fiance citizen (as he is already working and living in another country with you). 

Otherwise the authorities might feel that you have a fiance who is a citizen and you might come to US on a tourist visa and never return. There's nothing you can do to make them believe otherwise. 

So better not to even say anything about the american fiance as you anyway have no plans of settling here.  

Simply file for a tourist visa and her family can be shown as financial support. Job letters are always better. 

Good luck :) 

09 Dec 2016 - i-129F Package Sent
12 Dec 2016 - Case Received
17 Dec 2016 - NOA - 1

20 Mar 2017 - NOA - 2 Approved! 

06 Apr 2017 - NVC Receive and Case Number # 

11 Apr 2017 - Case In Transit

13 Apr 2017 - Case 'Ready'

20 Apr 2017 - Medical Checkup Done

03 May 2017 - Visa Interview - Approved

17 May 2017 - Visa Ready for Pickup! 

12 June 2017 - Port of Entry

*************** AOS **************

02 Aug 2017 -  Case Received for I-485, AP and EAD

08 Aug 2017 - NOA-1

28 Aug 2017 - Biometrics Appointment

01 Nov 2017 - EAD 'New card is being produced'

03 Nov 2017 - Card is mailed

08 Nov 2017 - Combo Card received

16 July 2018 - Filed for EAD/AP Renewal

26 Feb 2019 - Interview 

7 Dec 2020 - i-751 Filed

 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Posted

Apply

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: Timeline
Posted

So the visa application is asking for where she will be staying, and point of contact in US. Does she list me? Or not? If she doesn't, and they will find out, obviously its a problem. And if I list it then its a problem also? 

 

The part about paying for her trip - she is going because of my sister's wedding, so I am paying for her ticket, if she does say it, does it hurt her chances?

 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
Timeline
Posted

The Consulate are not stupid, I am sure they have heard it all, much easier to stick with the truth.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: India
Timeline
Posted
1 hour ago, EugeneInSF said:

So the visa application is asking for where she will be staying, and point of contact in US. Does she list me? Or not? If she doesn't, and they will find out, obviously its a problem. And if I list it then its a problem also? 

 

The part about paying for her trip - she is going because of my sister's wedding, so I am paying for her ticket, if she does say it, does it hurt her chances?

 

The interviewer doesn't even ask about the tickets at the time as they always suggest not to buy tickets before visa is approved. She can always say she'll buy the tickets after the visa is approved. I hope she has enough bank balance to support her own trip if she had to. She can say she has to visit a friend for her wedding and will stay with the bride's family at their home. This is the truth in a way. Otherwise her own family's bank balance can act as her support evidence if she is not employed at the moment.  You can furnish her bank account statements. 

Also, a fiance is not a legal relationship. It's not in any official records. As long as you guys are not married before the trip and do not have any pending petitions, its all okay. Its not lying. Its like not telling what is not even asked. They ask only about relatives in the usa at the time of visit. Fiance is not a relative before marriage. All this is assuming that this B1 will be her first visa application to usa.

09 Dec 2016 - i-129F Package Sent
12 Dec 2016 - Case Received
17 Dec 2016 - NOA - 1

20 Mar 2017 - NOA - 2 Approved! 

06 Apr 2017 - NVC Receive and Case Number # 

11 Apr 2017 - Case In Transit

13 Apr 2017 - Case 'Ready'

20 Apr 2017 - Medical Checkup Done

03 May 2017 - Visa Interview - Approved

17 May 2017 - Visa Ready for Pickup! 

12 June 2017 - Port of Entry

*************** AOS **************

02 Aug 2017 -  Case Received for I-485, AP and EAD

08 Aug 2017 - NOA-1

28 Aug 2017 - Biometrics Appointment

01 Nov 2017 - EAD 'New card is being produced'

03 Nov 2017 - Card is mailed

08 Nov 2017 - Combo Card received

16 July 2018 - Filed for EAD/AP Renewal

26 Feb 2019 - Interview 

7 Dec 2020 - i-751 Filed

 

Filed: Timeline
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6 hours ago, Ray&Ash said:

The interviewer doesn't even ask about the tickets at the time as they always suggest not to buy tickets before visa is approved. She can always say she'll buy the tickets after the visa is approved. I hope she has enough bank balance to support her own trip if she had to. She can say she has to visit a friend for her wedding and will stay with the bride's family at their home. This is the truth in a way. Otherwise her own family's bank balance can act as her support evidence if she is not employed at the moment.  You can furnish her bank account statements. 

Also, a fiance is not a legal relationship. It's not in any official records. As long as you guys are not married before the trip and do not have any pending petitions, its all okay. Its not lying. Its like not telling what is not even asked. They ask only about relatives in the usa at the time of visit. Fiance is not a relative before marriage. All this is assuming that this B1 will be her first visa application to usa.

Its a B2 not B1. The rest of your post is garbage too. Dont post about stuff you have no idea about.

 

OP just fill out the form honestly, and she goes to the interview and answers honestly. Its not hard.

Posted
6 hours ago, Ray&Ash said:

She can say she has to visit a friend for her wedding and will stay with the bride's family at their home. This is the truth in a way.

How did she meet/get to know this friend? How long has she known her? I'm not a CO, but these questions are likely to come up...you don't get a visa and fly that far for somebody you don't know pretty darn well. My fiance's friends were asked this during their tourist visa interview to come to our wedding. Trying to go around a line of questioning is likely to make things worse.

 

6 hours ago, Ray&Ash said:

Also, a fiance is not a legal relationship. It's not in any official records. As long as you guys are not married before the trip and do not have any pending petitions, its all okay. Its not lying. Its like not telling what is not even asked. They ask only about relatives in the usa at the time of visit. Fiance is not a relative before marriage.

"Are you traveling by yourself?" "Who's traveling with you?"

It's certainly possible they won't ask these types of questions, and you don't need to volunteer information, but the travel situation is likely to come to light one way or another. If it looks like the applicant is being dodgy with responses, it won't reflect well on their credibility...which is probably the strongest argument for (or against) an applicant.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
Timeline
Posted
11 hours ago, Ray&Ash said:

The interviewer doesn't even ask about the tickets at the time

Wrong.....They often ask who is financing the trip.  If she then tells the truth, it opens up a whole new area.

 

11 hours ago, Ray&Ash said:

She can say she has to visit a friend for her wedding

They often ask "How do you know this person"?

 

11 hours ago, Ray&Ash said:

This is the truth in a way

"In a way"...Really???  Misleading the officer will have severe consequences

 

11 hours ago, Ray&Ash said:

They ask only about relatives in the usa at the time of visit

Wrong....absolutely wrong.....

 

If the officer suspects the visitor is lying, she will very likely find herself on the next flight home......

Trying to talk around the truth is a dangerous tactic.....

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Posted (edited)

Another vote for ignoring the Ray&Ash poor advice.

 

Before I immigrated to the US, I had over 20 years’ worth of visitor visas granted to the US with a parent who was first a LPR then became a citizen, so I have a lot of experience overcoming the immigrant intent assumption! (The first two issued for one year only then they started issuing me ten year visas.)  Whoever said early in the thread that they don’t look at employment letter, bank statements etc is wrong - these are critical in showing you have ties to return back. All questions should be answered truthfully though there is no reason to volunteer information if it’s not asked for. If the question of the fiancé comes up as it probably will, answer truthfully, including the fact that the fiancé too is settled in Peru and has no intention of returning to the US to live (or not for a long time, or whatever the case is).

Edited by SusieQQQ
Posted
13 hours ago, EugeneInSF said:

So the visa application is asking for where she will be staying, and point of contact in US. Does she list me? Or not? If she doesn't, and they will find out, obviously its a problem. And if I list it then its a problem also? 

 

The part about paying for her trip - she is going because of my sister's wedding, so I am paying for her ticket, if she does say it, does it hurt her chances?

 

How can you be the point of contact in the US if you’re not living there? Put your sister/family.

Posted
1 hour ago, SusieQQQ said:

Whoever said early in the thread that they don’t look at employment letter, bank statements etc is wrong - these are critical in showing you have ties to return back.

Yes, these are important things to bring to show ties back home. However, in many cases they are not requested by the CO. I didn't say or imply they aren't good to bring....just don't be surprised if they decide not to look at them.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Posted
6 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Yes, these are important things to bring to show ties back home. However, in many cases they are not requested by the CO. I didn't say or imply they aren't good to bring....just don't be surprised if they decide not to look at them.

I was asked for them each time!

 
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