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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Nigeria
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I and my wife got married in July 2015. I got my 2 years conditional card in December 2015. Am supposed to remove my conditions by September 2017 but right now our marriage is falling apart. My wife can't have kids due to past tubal ligation. We tried to reverse the surgery but  the doctor said the chances of her having kids are very low and there is a tendency of ectopic pregnancy. Moreover, the surgery was very expensive and we don't want to go on with it with the very low chance of success. Since then our marriage has not been the same. She has a child from a past relationship while I have no kids. We are separating because of this issues and a divorce is on the way.Am so confused. Do I need to file for the ROC with a divorce waiver ASAP or wait till we file for divorce first, get the final decree and then file the ROC? Can I still file jointly with her in September 2017 while we are seperated. I need your advices pls.

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You married someone with the understanding they couldn't have children.  I surely hope you can go to counselling to help your marriage and get over this child issue.  Adoption is an option obviously if you two want to raise nore than one child together. 

 

If you are set on divorce then file within your 90 day period with a divorce waiver.  If you do not have the final divorce decree they will rfe for it. 

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This is such a tragic situation. It really saddens me. I truly hope you will reconsider and stay with your wife. Now that you're in America, you know there are options here. Many people choose to not have kids, or adopt or have foster children. God's blessings come in many different ways. I pray you guys do have kids as the doctors haven't ruled it out completely yet.

 

As far as the ROC divorce waiver, I agree with the PP, you'd have to be divorce before getting it. Wait till it is finalized.

 

Good luck and God bless.

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1 hour ago, judefabulous said:

I and my wife got married in July 2015. I got my 2 years conditional card in December 2015. Am supposed to remove my conditions by September 2017 but right now our marriage is falling apart. My wife can't have kids due to past tubal ligation. We tried to reverse the surgery but  the doctor said the chances of her having kids are very low and there is a tendency of ectopic pregnancy. Moreover, the surgery was very expensive and we don't want to go on with it with the very low chance of success. Since then our marriage has not been the same. She has a child from a past relationship while I have no kids. We are separating because of this issues and a divorce is on the way.Am so confused. Do I need to file for the ROC with a divorce waiver ASAP or wait till we file for divorce first, get the final decree and then file the ROC? Can I still file jointly with her in September 2017 while we are seperated. I need your advices pls.

Your story makes me really sad but if there's a way that you both can save your marriage, that would be great. A marriage counselling might be helpful or maybe a vacation for just the two of you to sort things out will also be a good idea. RE: Divorce, I believe USCIS will typically grant removal of conditions with appropriate evidence of divorce, i.e. a divorce decree or waiver. This link might be helpful to you - http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/divorce-your-conditional-residence-status-how-file-divorce-waiver-with-form-i-751.html

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1 hour ago, judefabulous said:

Can I still file jointly with her in September 2017 while we are seperated. 

Yes

 

1 hour ago, judefabulous said:

. Do I need to file for the ROC with a divorce waiver ASAP or wait till we file for divorce first, get the final decree and then file the ROC? 

You can do either, or file jointly and keep it joint, or file it jointly and add a divorce waiver at a later date.

Choice is yours

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

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March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

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March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

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June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

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I'm confused, I mean surely these things were discussed and agreed upon before marriage?!?!?! 

 

File ROC with divorce waiver.

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IVF or Segregate. Like mentioned, you went into this marriage knowingly of her fertility status. I think this is not going in your favor in regards with US immigration. 

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23 hours ago, judefabulous said:

I and my wife got married in July 2015. I got my 2 years conditional card in December 2015. Am supposed to remove my conditions by September 2017 but right now our marriage is falling apart. My wife can't have kids due to past tubal ligation. We tried to reverse the surgery but  the doctor said the chances of her having kids are very low and there is a tendency of ectopic pregnancy. Moreover, the surgery was very expensive and we don't want to go on with it with the very low chance of success. Since then our marriage has not been the same. She has a child from a past relationship while I have no kids. We are separating because of this issues and a divorce is on the way.Am so confused. Do I need to file for the ROC with a divorce waiver ASAP or wait till we file for divorce first, get the final decree and then file the ROC? Can I still file jointly with her in September 2017 while we are seperated. I need your advices pls.

Did you and your wife try IVF or egg donation?

ROC Timeline
Service Center: Vermont
90 Day Window Opened....08/22/17
I-751 Packet Sent..............08/23/17
NOA1 Dated.......................08/25/17
NOA1 Mailed......................08/30/17
NOA1 Received..................09/02/17
Check Cashed....................08/31/17
Biometrics Mailed...............09/20/17
Biometrics Received..........09/22/17
Biometrics Appointment.....10/03/17
Approved............................09/24/18
 

N400 Timeline

90 Day Window Opens...........08/22/18

N-400 Filed (Online)...............08/23/18

Receipt Notice.......................08/24/18

Biometrics Letter Rcvd..........08/31/18

Biometrics Appointment.......09/21/18

In Line For Interview.............05/23/19

Interview Letter Rcvd............05/24/19

Interview................................07/01/19

Oath.......................................07/17/19

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Nigeria
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Having kids is not the issue here. We have tried the IVF. It was not successful because of an ectopic pregnancy. My wife does not want to adopt or foster. You really don't know what some people go through in their relationship till you are in their shoes. I thank you all for your advices and for those of you that feels that they can judge me here...thank you too.

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On 5/19/2017 at 7:32 AM, judefabulous said:

Having kids is not the issue here. We have tried the IVF. It was not successful because of an ectopic pregnancy. My wife does not want to adopt or foster. You really don't know what some people go through in their relationship till you are in their shoes. I thank you all for your advices and for those of you that feels that they can judge me here...thank you too.

You said you were getting a divorce because having children is too expensive and hard?  People only have what you've stated to base their opinions on, even though you didnt ask for their opinions.

 But you are correct that we can't know your life since we don't live it.  Best of luck to you and your family.  

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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