And the Oscar for best movie goes to!...

[Dianalorena 1,153]

La La Land!

No, no, I mean, Moonlight!

With all the craziness going around I needed a break and did watch the Oscars. Oh, boy, drama drama drama. 

I have to say, I loved how ethnically diverse this year was. Gael talking against the wall, Dev being all sexy.

 

 

 

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Blame the Russians!

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Poor Warren Beatty. He noticed the card was wrong, and technically he showed it to his partner and it was Faye that announced the movie. He was suspicious, but it's hard to question things in front of a live audience, and broadcasting to millions.

Edited February 27, 2017 by bcking

[LionessDeon 2,060]

I wish Jimmy Kimmel would've laid off on the trump jokes.  I dislike giving that man anymore attention than he already gets.  However, I did think the Iranian man whose film won best foreign film had a great platform to speak on it.  The letter that was read in his place of acceptance speech was very well written and recited.  

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1 minute ago, LionessDeon said:

I wish Jimmy Kimmel would've laid off on the trump jokes.  I dislike giving that man anymore attention than he already gets.  However, I did think the Iranian man whose film won best foreign film had a great platform to speak on it.  The letter that was read in his place of acceptance speech was very well written and recited.  

I think at this point Trump is no longer competing for anything, so giving him attention doesn't really help him. Before the election I would have agreed, that people shouldn't keep bringing him up. Now that he has won, I don't have a problem with it and I don't think it really helps Trump. Doesn't really hurt him since the audience likely already filled with people who don't support him. So it just played the people that were there. 

 

Comedians are doing really well with this material right now. 

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It doesn't matter to me whether it helps or hurts him.  I know how I feel about his presidency thus far.  I'm just saying I would've like to see less mention of him.  No further agenda than that.

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7 hours ago, Dilorena said:

La La Land!

No, no, I mean, Moonlight!

With all the craziness going around I needed a break and did watch the Oscars. Oh, boy, drama drama drama. 

I have to say, I loved how ethnically diverse this year was. Gael talking against the wall, Dev being all sexy.

 

 

 

 

 

Nothing wrong there. Faye was simply presenting the audience with alternative facts. LOL

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Perhaps Iran could host next year.

 

Burka's all round.

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1 hour ago, LionessDeon said:

I wish Jimmy Kimmel would've laid off on the trump jokes.  I dislike giving that man anymore attention than he already gets.  However, I did think the Iranian man whose film won best foreign film had a great platform to speak on it.  The letter that was read in his place of acceptance speech was very well written and recited.  

I'm not a supporter of the ban and I'll admit I didn't watch it, but from what I saw on it on FB it seems delirious to me.

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Meh, I thought it was quite bland, outside of Viola Davis.  She was smashing.  Other than that I struggled to stay awake.

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La La Land, even if you love it, undeniably rests on the appropriation of black culture. Its very “escapism” depends on a quest for authenticity for those who can afford to choose their own soundtrack. Moonlight, symphonic, stylised, complex draws on those marginalised by the film industry. Moonlight is about emotional deprivation but it overflows with humanity. Obviously these are two very different movies but they are freighted with what they do and don’t say about race.

What some people saw in this mistake was again a cultural bias against black art, unconscious though it may be

 

This is why this mix-up mattered more than a bit of onstage awkwardness. What some people saw in this mistake was again a cultural bias against black art, unconscious though it may be. Some saw a conspiracy. Some saw the biggest award of the night undermined. This is hardly a paranoid reading when we keep seeing award ceremonies where black artists lose – Adele winning best album over Beyoncé at the Grammys, or the debacle of the Brits which has grime artists perform as though domesticated pets but will not reward them.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/27/oscars-mix-up-matters-racial-bias

 

Who knew?

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11 minutes ago, OriZ said:

I'm not a supporter of the ban and I'll admit I didn't watch it, but from what I saw on it on FB it seems delirious to me.

 

I saw pieces of it and it was tame, compared to other events. 

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http://www.vox.com/2017/2/13/14595352/adele-beat-beyonce-grammys-why

This article I read gives a perspective on the Beyonce issue.

 

Conspiracy theories will always exist.  People see what they want to see.

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1 minute ago, Boiler said:

La La Land, even if you love it, undeniably rests on the appropriation of black culture. Its very “escapism” depends on a quest for authenticity for those who can afford to choose their own soundtrack. Moonlight, symphonic, stylised, complex draws on those marginalised by the film industry. Moonlight is about emotional deprivation but it overflows with humanity. Obviously these are two very different movies but they are freighted with what they do and don’t say about race.

What some people saw in this mistake was again a cultural bias against black art, unconscious though it may be

 

This is why this mix-up mattered more than a bit of onstage awkwardness. What some people saw in this mistake was again a cultural bias against black art, unconscious though it may be. Some saw a conspiracy. Some saw the biggest award of the night undermined. This is hardly a paranoid reading when we keep seeing award ceremonies where black artists lose – Adele winning best album over Beyoncé at the Grammys, or the debacle of the Brits which has grime artists perform as though domesticated pets but will not reward them.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/27/oscars-mix-up-matters-racial-bias

 

Who knew?

I disagree. I think that is overstepping a claim of "unconscious racial bias".

 

I'm not denying the Academy Awards is horribly biased, and it is much harder for someone in a minority group to win (for multiple reasons - different roles during casting and during the voting process).

 

However, I think this was quite clearly a managerial mistake behind the scenes. It's not like the presenters "misspoke" what was on their card. The card said La La Land. Warren Beatty noticed that it also said Emma Stone, he showed it to Faye Dunaway and she didn't notice and just said "La La Land". 

 

The wrong card was handed out, and then it was improperly announced. I don't see any racial bias in that. It's not like the movie on the card wasn't nominated for best picture. It was another contender, it was a popular movie, so seeing it on the card wouldn't be that surprising. It was clear Faye Dunaway took a split second look, saw the name, and said it outloud thinking that Warren was just "joking" by not saying it out loud. 

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3 minutes ago, bcking said:

I disagree. I think that is overstepping a claim of "unconscious racial bias".

 

I'm not denying the Academy Awards is horribly biased, and it is much harder for someone in a minority group to win (for multiple reasons - different roles during casting and during the voting process).

 

However, I think this was quite clearly a managerial mistake behind the scenes. It's not like the presenters "misspoke" what was on their card. The card said La La Land. Warren Beatty noticed that it also said Emma Stone, he showed it to Faye Dunaway and she didn't notice and just said "La La Land". 

 

The wrong card was handed out, and then it was improperly announced. I don't see any racial bias in that. It's not like the movie on the card wasn't nominated for best picture. It was another contender, it was a popular movie, so seeing it on the card wouldn't be that surprising. It was clear Faye Dunaway took a split second look, saw the name, and said it outloud thinking that Warren was just "joking" by not saying it out loud. 

 

I think so too, but with so much racism coming out of this administration, it's not surprising a foreign paper chose to explore the race angle.