Abortion Discussion [split topic]

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Do you not understand? As soon as you disagree with a few here, your words become disinformation. Just like Hillary never violated USC. If you say otherwise, you must wear a tinfoil hat.

But I think your take on abortion is pretty solid. I have yet to see any laws that stipulate a timeline, and that is where the greasy slope is. I am all for a woman having a say as to what goes on in her body. I do not, however, think laziness is a good reason for an abortion. But it will always be a hard call to make, from either perspective.

Love me some capital punishment in the form of a death sentence. Think all rapists should get sterilized or kilt, for example. But I'm just a man with an R by his moniker. What do I know?

Apparently it's just a bunch of misinformation and some of it has nothing to do with anything This is VJ...don't assume the majority of us believe that, only those of us stuck in the middle of the road.

[TBoneTX 43,427]

There are time I want to strangle my sons, would that be considered late-term/belated abortion?

The typical euphemism is "retroactive birth control."

I've only known one woman who used abortion as a regular source of birth control.

I crossed trails with one like that, too. She mentioned it very matter-of-factly. I didn't inquire further at the time, and I never saw her again.

I had two kidney stones at the same time. Women who have had them and given birth say the stones are much worse than childbirth. So I KNOW.

Vaginal birth has been described as akin to passing a watermelon through one's nostril.

I was on the "clean" side of the curtain during Mini-Bone's birth via C-section, but some of the observing medical students nearly threw up or fainted.

For a homicide, all you need is a dead body.

For an insecticide, all you need is a dead... is a... uh... er...

[OriZ 3,157]

Do you not understand? As soon as you disagree with a few here, your words become disinformation. Just like Hillary never violated USC. If you say otherwise, you must wear a tinfoil hat.

But I think your take on abortion is pretty solid. I have yet to see any laws that stipulate a timeline, and that is where the greasy slope is. I am all for a woman having a say as to what goes on in her body. I do not, however, think laziness is a good reason for an abortion. But it will always be a hard call to make, from either perspective.

Love me some capital punishment in the form of a death sentence. Think all rapists should get sterilized or kilt, for example. But I'm just a man with an R by his moniker. What do I know?

I have long been against capital punishment. I think its uselessness has been proven, and I don't believe in a sentence being revenge, rather, it should remain what it was always meant to be - a way to keep dangerous people off the street, and a deterrent for others. It has been shown killing people does not deter others from committing crimes. States with capital punishment usually have a higher crime rate than states without. But anyway this is not what this discussion is about...my point is you just gotta be consistent, you're either against taking a life or you're for it, but some people wanna have it both ways. At least those who are in favor of the death penalty and against abortions want criminals killed, not babies.

Congress tried to pass a law with a ban after 20 weeks not that long ago...it did not happen because of democrats. I think whatever the circumstances may be, 20 weeks should be a long enough time to make a decision.

[smilesammich 10,727]

never seen any sort of timeline, except for the health of mother/baby, ban after 20 weeks..yall are just all over the place. and this is how it's easy to spot that no research has been done. obvious.

[millefleur 5,039]

The moral question to end all questions is when it comes to killing, babies and free will is: Would you kill Baby Hitler? (Or we could take the hypothetical route, if you knew your baby were to grow up to be Hitler, would you abort him?)

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Baby Hitler? Perhaps. Baby Hillary? Most Def!!

The moral question to end all questions is when it comes to killing, babies and free will is: Would you kill Baby Hitler? (Or we could take the hypothetical route, if you knew your baby were to grow up to be Hitler, would you abort him?)

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Did you ask your friends to do your research for you in high school, too?

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/06/18/us/politics/abortion-restrictions.html?_r=1&

never seen any sort of timeline, except for the health of mother/baby, ban after 20 weeks..yall are just all over the place. and this is how it's easy to spot that no research has been done. obvious.

[OriZ 3,157]

The moral question to end all questions is when it comes to killing, babies and free will is: Would you kill Baby Hitler? (Or we could take the hypothetical route, if you knew your baby were to grow up to be Hitler, would you abort him?)

As a Jew, I would not. I don't believe in altering the course of history. The whole butterfly effect thing...

[millefleur 5,039]

As a Jew, I would not. I don't believe in altering the course of history. The whole butterfly effect thing...

Yep, I'm with you. If I could change something, I would've just admitted him to art school (he was famously rejected) so he could've grown up to be a mediocre artist instead of a vengeful dictator.

[OriZ 3,157]

never seen any sort of timeline, except for the health of mother/baby, ban after 20 weeks..yall are just all over the place. and this is how it's easy to spot that no research has been done. obvious.

Say what? http://www.lifenews.com/2015/09/22/democrats-defeat-pro-life-senate-bill-banning-late-term-abortions-after-20-weeks/

Yep, I'm with you. If I could change something, I would've just admitted him to art school (he was famously rejected) so he could've grown up to be a mediocre artist instead of a vengeful dictator.

I probably wouldn't have even done that, because, you still never know how that could have changed the course of history...

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

The moral question to end all questions is when it comes to killing, babies and free will is: Would you kill Baby Hitler? (Or we could take the hypothetical route, if you knew your baby were to grow up to be Hitler, would you abort him?)

Hmm deep

[millefleur 5,039]

Hmm deep

NY Times mag did a poll on the subject. The results were as follows, a three way split between no, yes and not sure:

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Your choice makes me think of Eartha Kitt. Though I am sure her mother did not have the choices available that women do today, I believe the world is a better place because this daughter of a rape victim decided to keep and raise her. Kudos to women who survive the ordeal and move on to raise productive, beautiful members of society.

i'm prochoice and i personally doubt i would choose to abort a rape baby. but i have no business telling others what to do with their rape babies. see how easy that is? rape babies smh.

sorry, i realize men are talking lefhfn. i'll show myself out.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Did you ask your friends to do your research for you in high school, too?

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/06/18/us/politics/abortion-restrictions.html?_r=1&

first, i wasn't saying i'd never seen a timeline - i was regurgitating comments of yours and oriz.

second, read your own link.

Say what? http://www.lifenews.com/2015/09/22/democrats-defeat-pro-life-senate-bill-banning-late-term-abortions-after-20-weeks/

life news.com bro.

Your choice makes me think of Eartha Kitt. Though I am sure her mother did not have the choices available that women do today, I believe the world is a better place because this daughter of a rape victim decided to keep and raise her. Kudos to women who survive the ordeal and move on to raise productive, beautiful members of society.

kudos for women making their own decisions.

[SunflowerSweet 1,321]

MFW "There has to be some sort of punishment for the women". Literally. My Face. I'm in the middle in red and black.