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[Boiler 43,430]

I think what he means is all those "Lettice picker" and "Janitorial" jobs the illegals are stealing from American citizens and driving down the wages lol

Where I am it is more Construction.

I know a building that recently had a new roof, big job, and I know how much the quote was for.

A friend of mine who is a contractor and I worked it backwards and the Contractor could have only been paying $12 an hour max for roofers, no taxes no WC etc.

No way someone wanting to work legally can do that.

[Boiler 43,430]

IT at least you can move abroad, or bring in H1b's.

Construction is more difficult, but read an interesting article that robots may be the future, things have moved more quickly.

[elmcitymaven 9,711]

Seems that you have been here just a few months, US is not the UK, things are different.

Pretty sure Morgan's the USC, just sayin'.

She's also my new VJ girlfriend.

[Teddy B 17,251]

Pretty sure Morgan's the USC, just sayin'.

She's also my new VJ girlfriend.

That's hot!

[elmcitymaven 9,711]

That's hot!

Us CABAs gotta stick together, if only to share the Cheetos.

[Teddy B 17,251]

Us CABAs gotta stick together, if only to share the Cheetos.

And it's much easier to crush a man's soul and empty his bank account when you run in packs.

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

"Please will you listen SJW"? I mean, okay. I have multiple college degrees, including a Masters in Refugee and Forced Migration Studies, but I am sure you can "learn" me a thing or two.

You say that "illegals" are taking up a lot** of resources from the government but then your example of that is wages being brought down in California because of migrant workers? Those are two different things? Can you give a factual representation (and by factual I don't mean one article from a clearly biased website like the one you posted above) of the cost of illegal immigrants as a significant percentage of government spending?

As for your complaint illegal immigrants are driving down blue collar wages in California? Blue collar wages have gone down nation wide since the early 2000's, it's not just a problem for California, or other immigrant-heavy states. There is plenty of publications on wage stagnation you can help yourself to, and the cause has already been fleshed out. Surprise! It's not immigrants leading the problem. Shipping jobs overseas, automation, and just general wage stagnation due to the recession are the culprits.

As for the documented proof that illegal immigrant neighborhoods produce more crime, again, can you please show me where you are getting this information? If anything, that sounds like a correlative relationship rather than a causal one. Neighborhoods with more poverty also generally have more crime, and since illegal immigrants are usually living in these high-poverty areas due to limits to their upward mobility, it's much more likely that it's an income issue, not an immigrant issue. Here are also some fun readings you can do on the false claim that immigrants are more likely to commit crimes.

I'm actually not to sure what to say about the claim that the Mexican government is intentionally sending criminals here as that sounds entirely outlandish. Can you provide some documentation for that too?

I stand by what I said in my previous post, and I will go a step further now because of what you posted. You are a SJW with a Masters in a made up degree program that was created to scam SJW's like yourself. You are one of the reasons why there is such a black lash against "refugees" in Europe right now. You want the continent to be without borders and to openly allow people into your country that will never assimilate at all, and they will bring with them the archaic social structure that they left behind. Wow.... trying to make me come across as some dumb hillbilly/redneck from the USA that does not know anything. Sorry I have a BS in IT, and I am working on my MBA right now. So I am far from the redneck you think I am, and I could go further but I won't right now.

Ok, let me give you an example of how Illegals take up benefits and resources from the government from first hand experience. The Illegal person comes here and has children either already or when they get here they have children. The children either Legal or Illegal go to school, the children receive benefits from the school such as free lunch. The Illegal students also take up class room space in a school. The legal children that have illegal parents are given benefits such as snap, housing. The state of California does give this to people that are Illegals, this state is a sanctuary state.

Have you ever heard of San Bernardino, Hacienda Heights, or how Illegals are trying to ethnically cleanse South LA neighborhoods?

http://cis.org/Welfare-Use-Legal-Illegal-Immigrant-Households

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/california-646538-state-immigrants.html

http://www.epi.org/publication/causes-of-wage-stagnation/

http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/23/crs-report-wages-declined-as-immigration-surged/

I think what he means is all those "Lettice picker" and "Janitorial" jobs the illegals are stealing from American citizens and driving down the wages lol

Notice I never said ANYTHING about Migrant workers they usually come here ON A VISA to do the work. So good luck trying to paint me as a racist.

IT at least you can move abroad, or bring in H1b's.

Construction is more difficult, but read an interesting article that robots may be the future, things have moved more quickly.

The problem going on with IT right now is that companies are laying off the American workers and bringing in H1b's to do the work of that American. It has been happening for a couple years now and only came to a head a couple months back when Disney did it, and that's when people stood up to take notice.

[Teddy B 17,251]

I stand by what I said in my previous post, and I will go a step further now because of what you posted. You are a SJW with a Masters in a made up degree program that was created to scam SJW's like yourself. You are one of the reasons why there is such a black lash against "refugees" in Europe right now. You want the continent to be without borders and to openly allow people into your country that will never assimilate at all, and they will bring with them the archaic social structure that they left behind. Wow.... trying to make me come across as some dumb hillbilly/redneck from the USA that does not know anything. Sorry I have a BS in IT, and I am working on my MBA right now. So I am far from the redneck you think I am, and I could go further but I won't right now.

Ok, let me give you an example of how Illegals take up benefits and resources from the government from first hand experience. The Illegal person comes here and has children either already or when they get here they have children. The children either Legal or Illegal go to school, the children receive benefits from the school such as free lunch. The Illegal students also take up class room space in a school. The legal children that have illegal parents are given benefits such as snap, housing. The state of California does give this to people that are Illegals, this state is a sanctuary state.

Have you ever heard of San Bernardino, Hacienda Heights, or how Illegals are trying to ethnically cleanse South LA neighborhoods?

Nuttin better than a dude having a ####### size battle with a woman.

Pssst............... she's winning.

Edited September 28, 2016 by Teddy B

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

Nuttin better than a dude having a ####### size battle with a woman.

Pssst............... she's winning.

Yeah will if I had more time then I would destroy her. But alas I am on my lunch break.

[Rob L 3,811]

I stand by what I said in my previous post, and I will go a step further now because of what you posted. You are a SJW with a Masters in a made up degree program that was created to scam SJW's like yourself. You are one of the reasons why there is such a black lash against "refugees" in Europe right now. You want the continent to be without borders and to openly allow people into your country that will never assimilate at all, and they will bring with them the archaic social structure that they left behind. Wow.... trying to make me come across as some dumb hillbilly/redneck from the USA that does not know anything. Sorry I have a BS in IT, and I am working on my MBA right now. So I am far from the redneck you think I am, and I could go further but I won't right now.

Ok, let me give you an example of how Illegals take up benefits and resources from the government from first hand experience. The Illegal person comes here and has children either already or when they get here they have children. The children either Legal or Illegal go to school, the children receive benefits from the school such as free lunch. The Illegal students also take up class room space in a school. The legal children that have illegal parents are given benefits such as snap, housing. The state of California does give this to people that are Illegals, this state is a sanctuary state.

Have you ever heard of San Bernardino, Hacienda Heights, or how Illegals are trying to ethnically cleanse South LA neighborhoods?

http://cis.org/Welfare-Use-Legal-Illegal-Immigrant-Households

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/california-646538-state-immigrants.html

http://www.epi.org/publication/causes-of-wage-stagnation/

http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/23/crs-report-wages-declined-as-immigration-surged/

Notice I never said ANYTHING about Migrant workers they usually come here ON A VISA to do the work. So good luck trying to paint me as a racist.

The problem going on with IT right now is that companies are laying off the American workers and bringing in H1b's to do the work of that American. It has been happening for a couple years now and only came to a head a couple months back when Disney did it, and that's when people stood up to take notice.

When I worked at Microsoft we had 118,000 employees ( I think about 40- 50% in the states) and around 1,100 approved H1B visas. 1 or 2 % his not displacing the American workforce.

[millefleur 5,035]

Nuttin better than a dude having a ####### size battle with a woman.

Pssst............... she's winning.

I'm interested in both MorganandMichael and cyberfx1024's points of view. Unfortuantely MorganandMichael did not answer my question about what solution she supports or proposes for the economic problems facing both blue collar workers and illegal immigrants.

[Teddy B 17,251]

Yeah will if I had more time then I would destroy her. But alas I am on my lunch break.

No doubt. Word around the water cooler is that the chicks refer to you as tripod.

[Rob L 3,811]

No doubt. Word around the water cooler is that the chicks refer to you as tripod.

People are sayin'

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

When I worked at Microsoft we had 118,000 employees ( I think about 40- 50% in the states) and around 1,100 approved H1B visas. 1 or 2 % his not displacing the American workforce.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-edison-layoffs-20150211-story.html

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/25/technology/disney-h1b-workers/

http://www.sciencemag.org/careers/2016/03/displaced-american-stem-workers-spur-senate-hearing

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/top-10-companies-request-visas-foreign-workers/story?id=20730536

http://www.progressive.org/news/2016/02/188576/%E2%80%98you%E2%80%99re-fired%E2%80%99-abuses-%E2%80%98skilled%E2%80%99-worker-visa-programs

[Teddy B 17,251]

I'm interested in both MorganandMichael and cyberfx1024's points of view. Unfortuantely MorganandMichael did not answer my question about what solution she supports or proposes for the economic problems facing both blue collar workers and illegal immigrants.

I'm more interested in the new VJ fem fatale power couple Maven & Morgan.