re: CR1-visa entered the country without my knowledge

[daigo 39]

Butt hurt?? seriously...the OPs wife entered the USA without his knowledge and is living with her ex-husband (or his cousin, if you believe that one) and you call him butt hurt? Definition of butt hurt is "needlessly offended". I think the OP has every right to be offended.

OP infopass appointment is the best option in my opinion. Give them the info and evidence you have and let it go from there. Do not contact her. Good Luck!

Why are you suggesting an INFOPASS? That is a waste of his time. USCIS doesn't care about anyone's marital difficulties until it comes to an adjudication of an actual petition/application.

[Eric-Pris 1,602]

Butt hurt?? Definition of butt hurt is "needlessly offended".

Is that the Webster definition? If not, it's meaningless.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

I am really surprised at VJ on this one. Family visas are for family reunification, and this woman did not have a family to unify when she used the visa. This is fraud. It doesn't matter that at her interview the marriage was intact, it was apparently not intact when she used the visa. Both points matter.

[Caryh 5,206]

Is that the Webster definition? If not, it's meaningless.

The Oxford carries it, so that should be good enough. Anyone can call a dictionary Webster's.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/butthurt

butthurt

Pronunciation: /ˈbətˌhərt/

US informal

adjective

Overly or unjustifiably offended or resentful: they’re all butthurt that she released the album online first that fight the other night was started by a butthurt player from the losing team

More example sentences

noun

An excessive or unjustifiable feeling of personal offense or resentment: it’s time to get over the butthurt from last year’s playoffs the butthurt just oozes out of this comment

I am really surprised at VJ on this one. Family visas are for family reunification, and this woman did not have a family to unify when she used the visa. This is fraud. It doesn't matter that at her interview the marriage was intact, it was apparently not intact when she used the visa. Both points matter.

Agreed, but the odds of ICE doing anything about it is slim and none. Getting her ROC completed is a different story though, which is why I suggested he should report it to USCIS and then move on with his life.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Agreed, but the odds of ICE doing anything about it is slim and none. Getting her ROC completed is a different story though, which is why I suggested he should report it to USCIS and then move on with his life.

Agree, I think a report is in order, then best to forget it forever.

[Transborderwife 4,666]

I am really surprised at VJ on this one. Family visas are for family reunification, and this woman did not have a family to unify when she used the visa. This is fraud. It doesn't matter that at her interview the marriage was intact, it was apparently not intact when she used the visa. Both points matter.

How times have changed in your absence here

[IcezMan_IcezLady 582]

I am surprised you guys don't see this as a fraud. If I buy something and it doesn't get delivered, does it count as fraud or not? The woman obviously used the man for GC. OP had called the embassy to invalidate the visa and maybe the call came late.

Get the infopass and see if something could be done about it.

Even though they provided evidence for bona fide relationship. Things change. Heck, someone has got his visa canceled at POE because the spouse had made a call to to cancel it.

[souladventurer 2]

OP HERE!!!

Everyone here has been so wonderful and supportive in my efforts to figure out why my wife entered the USA and decided to live with her so called relatives of her ex husband. Yes that is truly shocking and hilarious at the same time in my book. Of course my wife is very smart to be able to sting with the fact that she is staying with my ex husband relatives which by all means was a def. meant to put a blow into me.

But more importantly I have tried all the suggestions you have given to no avail. The best one was the infopass and I was not able to get through to the fraud unit there at the local USCIS office. However, i did meet some uscis staff who seemed supportive to me so I will see what happens. In the end of it all, she gets to experience the great America and see for herself how she fits into the society here. Right now she is in a deficit as she has done some karma that I don't really approve of but nonetheless what is done is done.

I hope she has the courtesy to respect the CR-1 visa as she stays here. Other than that, as many men and women, have suggested let it go and move on. The wheels of time and fortune will now lay what is in store for me.

Thank you so much for your prompt responses.

Sincerely,

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[TBoneTX 43,254]

OP, if you wish for this thread to be closed now, hit the "report" button and so request.

Or, you can leave it open; it's up to you.

[souladventurer 2]

leave it open...

[Unlockable 7,306]

OP,

From your last update it sounds like you are going to be ok.

I sincerely wish you the best.

[Harmonia 211]

You filed for a CR-1. That means you were married before she came. You dated someone, you proposed, you decided to marry and spend your life with that person. How long were you together before you got married? You then proved bonafide marriage with your I-130. You proved it again with her consular interview, which she passed.

Now you split up. She sounds like a horrible human being. But where's the fraud? You proved it was real. It didn't work out. Infidelity and being a terrible human being aren't fraud. Now, divorce. I hope you divorce and move on, which means giving up your quest to hurt her with immigration. Let it go. Immigration isn't going to do anything. Its a losing battle.

I feel really bad for you. It sucks she's with an ex's relative, but you need to focus on yourself, on moving on, on making sure that your next relationship is better. Make sure you really know the person before you decide to marry them. She won't change, but you can change yourself.

Edited May 4, 2016 by Harmonia

[IcezMan_IcezLady 582]

You filed for a CR-1. That means you were married before she came. You dated someone, you proposed, you decided to marry and spend your life with that person. How long were you together before you got married? You then proved bonafide marriage with your I-130. You proved it again with her consular interview, which she passed.

Now you split up. She sounds like a horrible human being. But where's the fraud? You proved it was real. It didn't work out. Infidelity and being a terrible human being aren't fraud. Now, divorce. I hope you divorce and move on, which means giving up your quest to hurt her with immigration. Let it go. Immigration isn't going to do anything. Its a losing battle.

I feel really bad for you. It sucks she's with an ex's relative, but you need to focus on yourself, on moving on, on making sure that your next relationship is better. Make sure you really know the person before you decide to marry them. She won't change, but you can change yourself.

There's a difference between she coming to live with him for a bit and move out or run away. The fact that she came straight to live somewhere else means, she was aware she did not intend to use the visa as intended. which is to be reunited with her family,that's her husband. If that's not fraud. i don't know what it is.

[Villanelle 4,121]

There's a difference between she coming to live with him for a bit and move out or run away. The fact that she came straight to live somewhere else means, she was aware she did not intend to use the visa as intended. which is to be reunited with her family,that's her husband. If that's not fraud. i don't know what it is.

I just want to make a few clarifications regarding this and its meant for all viewers. Using a visa not as intended can be considered fraud. But according to USCIS the CR/IR visas are issued under a family unity act but they are not technically considered to be the reason issued. The reason issued is to enter the US and obtain perm residency. So therefore its not considered fraud to enter and not reunite.

We did have a user on who was in the exact situation but he was the immigrant. He was advised he would NOT be breaking any laws by entering and rather it was a moral issue on whether or not to use the visa knowing it was issued because of a marriage that was no longer viable.

Fall where you may morally on the issue but realize "fraud" was not committed according to USCIS.

[souladventurer 2]

love the debates because it clearly shows there are too many sides to the coin. lets say that a sponsor does see the beneficiary instead of the beneficiary going somewhere else (clearly fraud), then the same kind of fraud could happen in the fact that the sponsor sees the beneficiary and then allows for the beneficiary to leave. however, i still thinks its ideal for the uscis to make sure that the beneficiary has arrived or require the beneficiary to verify in some legal manner that she/he has visited the sponsor. i feel with no contact there is clear indication of fraud. however once again this all left up to interpretation and there is no cut and dry answer. however, i feel with deep thought and reflection with the many cases that i have happened like this, we, as a society, are intelligent to come up democratically with some safeguards that can insure a better outcome then the one i have received.