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Filed: Country: Italy
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I am a US citizen living in Italy with my Italian husband. I have not worked since I moved to Italy 2009 & we married. We now want to move to San Diego, CA. Our plan was to for me to go first and to find employment and have him follow. My husband is in the process of selling his business in Italy so we will have a large amount of savings. I don't have a permanent address in the US as I am in Italy. I was going to crash at a friend's house for a couple months.

Would we be better off waiting until I have employment to start the proceedings? If we file immediately will changing my address in the US complicate/slow down the process? If we wait will time spent living apart been seen as unusual?

Any advice is appreciated. I'm getting different adive from lawyers, usually depending on what would be beneficial to the lawyer!

Thank you!

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Slovenia
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Start process now.

If you live together in Italy, maybe you`ll be "auto- expedite" at USCIS stage. When you will get approved petition from USCIS (NOA2) start thinking about the plan for you to move to US and finding the job...or maybe you could wait in Italy with your husband and use cash assets to meet requirement for AOS. At NVC stage you can "delay" visa process to some point.

This is my opinion.

PS..sorry for grammar mistakes...I`m learning :)))


N-400 Timeline
04/02/19 N-400 Submitted online
04/22/19 Biometrics
11/05/19 Interview (Approved)


ROC Timeline

Service Center: California

08/11/17 I-751 Packet delivered to USCIS

09/18/17 Biometrics Appointment

08/17/18 2nd extension letter (additional 6 months)

11/02/18 New card is being  produced (Approved)

 

NVC
11-04-2014 NVC case receive

05-20-2015 Visa received

10-06-2015 Time to kick back and let it fly

 

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Germany
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Doesn't Rome allow DCF?


Myself: US citizen; Husband: German citizen

TransferWise Invitation Link: (first wire transfer is free) https://transferwise.com/u/eec50

(B-2 Journey):

 

 

-(then fiance) H-2B work visa application terminated due to qualification difficulties in Aug. 2010.

-(then fiance) B-2 tourist visa denied due to lack of strong ties to Germany in Sept. 2010.
-Third ESTA denied due to his suspiscious visa status on Oct. 15, 2012.
-B-2 tourist visa approved on Nov. 16, 2012!

 

(IR-1 Journey):

 

 

-Extended German residence permit obtained Aug. 23, 2014. (to qualify for DCF)

-Husband's new German passport picked up Aug. 28, 2014. (Old one expires 2015)

-I-130 packet sent to Frankfurt (DCF) Aug. 29, 2014!

-NOA1 issued Sept. 9, 2014 (received Sept.13)

-RFE regarding evidence of bona fide marriage received along with NOA1

-RFE reply packet sent to Frankfurt Sept. 30, 2014

-E-mail response (NOA2) received by USCIS Frankfurt on Oct. 23, 2014 (Petition APPROVED Oct. 20!!!) :dancing:

-Paper NOA2 received in the mail Oct. 29, 2014

-Case number assigned by IV unit Oct. 30, 2014 (Received by email Nov. 3)

-Paper "Packet 3" arrived in mail Nov. 4, 2014

-DS-260 and Document Delivery Registration submitted to Frankfurt Nov. 4, 2014

-Mailed in priority date request found on Packet 3 to IV Unit Nov. 5, 2014

-IV ("Packet 3") package sent to Frankfurt Nov. 17, 2014

-Medical completed by Frankfurt panel physician Nov. 17, 2014

-Received "Packet 4" via e-mail Nov. 20, 2014

-Interview booked for Dec. 3, 2014 (booked Nov. 21, 2014 after email authorization received)
-Visa approved, issued AND picked up by the courier all within 7 hours, Dec. 3, 2014
:dance:

-Visa packet arrived in the mail Dec. 4, 2014

-Visa packet had to be returned to Frankfurt for correction on Immigrant Data Summary sheet (wrong birthplace listed) Dec. 5, 2014

-Corrected visa packet received in the mail Dec. 11, 2014

-$165 Immigrant fee paid Dec. 11, 2014

-POE (through Dublin, Ireland) Jan. 18, 2015

-Registered manually for social security Jan. 27, 2015

-Social security card arrived within 2 weeks after applying in person/green card arrived within 30 days after entering U.S.

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Verify if Italy has Direct Consulate Filling (DCF) IS it a lot faster and the address you use is the italy one. For the Affidavit of income, you could ask a family or friend to be your joint sponsor.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Italy
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I give you this TIP.

Start now and don't get your residence in USA.

If you are resident in Italy, you can send you IR1 CR1 request directly to the US Embassy in Rome, much faster and easier then the USCIS way.

Good luck to both of you,

We are going to have the Immigrant Visa and before Xmas we hope to go home in USA:


Feb 12, 2014 I-130 Initial review
Mar 3, 2014 I-129F K3 Initial review
July 12, 2014 end of the timeline that Nebraska indicate for NOA2
Sep 09, USCIS contacted, delay of time due to "security checks"
Sep 15, Senator take care about my case
Sep 20, same answer to my senator from USCIS
Sept 25, I-130 and K3 has been approved!
Oct 15, I-130 sent to NVC from USCIS.
Oct 21, I-130 received by NVC.
Waiting to have a number from NVC and the timelimit of 30 days has gone
48 days and no case number received yet.
Nov 10, expedite sent from Office' Senator to NVC
Nov 12, Case number assigned!
Nov 13, AoS Bill received
Nov 21, bypassed NVC to Naples Consulate.
Dec 09 medical exam
Dec 10 interview and Visa approved

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Germany
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I wasn't sure if Rome had a USCIS field office or not, but if the above poster says they do then definitely stay in Italy and send your petition to Rome. Rather than waiting 1+ year(s) you're looking more at 3 months until you have the visa in hand and can fly. It's also much less stressful and saves you a bit of cash as DCF filers aren't required to pay the fee for the Affidavit of Support.


Myself: US citizen; Husband: German citizen

TransferWise Invitation Link: (first wire transfer is free) https://transferwise.com/u/eec50

(B-2 Journey):

 

 

-(then fiance) H-2B work visa application terminated due to qualification difficulties in Aug. 2010.

-(then fiance) B-2 tourist visa denied due to lack of strong ties to Germany in Sept. 2010.
-Third ESTA denied due to his suspiscious visa status on Oct. 15, 2012.
-B-2 tourist visa approved on Nov. 16, 2012!

 

(IR-1 Journey):

 

 

-Extended German residence permit obtained Aug. 23, 2014. (to qualify for DCF)

-Husband's new German passport picked up Aug. 28, 2014. (Old one expires 2015)

-I-130 packet sent to Frankfurt (DCF) Aug. 29, 2014!

-NOA1 issued Sept. 9, 2014 (received Sept.13)

-RFE regarding evidence of bona fide marriage received along with NOA1

-RFE reply packet sent to Frankfurt Sept. 30, 2014

-E-mail response (NOA2) received by USCIS Frankfurt on Oct. 23, 2014 (Petition APPROVED Oct. 20!!!) :dancing:

-Paper NOA2 received in the mail Oct. 29, 2014

-Case number assigned by IV unit Oct. 30, 2014 (Received by email Nov. 3)

-Paper "Packet 3" arrived in mail Nov. 4, 2014

-DS-260 and Document Delivery Registration submitted to Frankfurt Nov. 4, 2014

-Mailed in priority date request found on Packet 3 to IV Unit Nov. 5, 2014

-IV ("Packet 3") package sent to Frankfurt Nov. 17, 2014

-Medical completed by Frankfurt panel physician Nov. 17, 2014

-Received "Packet 4" via e-mail Nov. 20, 2014

-Interview booked for Dec. 3, 2014 (booked Nov. 21, 2014 after email authorization received)
-Visa approved, issued AND picked up by the courier all within 7 hours, Dec. 3, 2014
:dance:

-Visa packet arrived in the mail Dec. 4, 2014

-Visa packet had to be returned to Frankfurt for correction on Immigrant Data Summary sheet (wrong birthplace listed) Dec. 5, 2014

-Corrected visa packet received in the mail Dec. 11, 2014

-$165 Immigrant fee paid Dec. 11, 2014

-POE (through Dublin, Ireland) Jan. 18, 2015

-Registered manually for social security Jan. 27, 2015

-Social security card arrived within 2 weeks after applying in person/green card arrived within 30 days after entering U.S.

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Just an FYI for people.. These countries may have DCF because they have a USCIS field office..

http://www.uscis.gov/about-us/find-uscis-office/international-immigration-offices

Rome is one of those, so do the DCF route. Look up the I-864P and see if you have the assets needed so that you do not have to get a job first in the USA. But domicile may be an issue so you will want to search the forum for that.


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As others have said, DCF seems the best choice.


Immigration Timeline

 

June 2013: Met whilst working at a summer camp in Michigan 

K1

November 1st 2014: I-129f submitted for K1 visa

February 24th 2015: Visa in hand!

February 26th 2015: POE at Las Vegas airport, then onwards to Oregon! 

March 6th 2015: Marriage (with a "real" wedding to follow next year on 7/6/2016)

March 9th 2015: AOS, EAD & AP submitted

September 22nd 2015: Interview

January 14th 2016: Two year Green card received -phew!

ROC

August 8th 2017: 90 day window begins! ROC time!

September 28th 2017: Biometric Appointment in Portland, OR

March 5th 2018: Case received by local office

August 18th 2018: 18 month extension letter mailed

December 2018: Case moved to another office

February 2019: I was emailed that I was approved and my card was in production the same day of my N400 interview 😂

N400

August 8th 2018: Window opens to submit naturalization application

August 13th 2018: N400 Application submitted online 

August 14th 2018: NOA1

September 6th 2018: Biometrics

February 6th 2019: Interview Date! APPROVED!

February 6th 2019: I was asked to return later the same day for my Oath Ceremony! :dance:

 

❤️ Our Visa Journey is finally complete ❤️

 

I am the Beneficiary

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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I am a US citizen living in Italy with my Italian husband. I have not worked since I moved to Italy 2009 & we married. We now want to move to San Diego, CA. Our plan was to for me to go first and to find employment and have him follow. My husband is in the process of selling his business in Italy so we will have a large amount of savings. I don't have a permanent address in the US as I am in Italy. I was going to crash at a friend's house for a couple months.

Would we be better off waiting until I have employment to start the proceedings? If we file immediately will changing my address in the US complicate/slow down the process? If we wait will time spent living apart been seen as unusual?

Any advice is appreciated. I'm getting different adive from lawyers, usually depending on what would be beneficial to the lawyer!

Thank you!

technically, you qualify for file for a different class of petition, that I-130 filed via direct consular filing into ROMA - then follow up and his interview in Napoli.

also, technically, after you file in ROMA, that I-130, you can scamper back to the USA, with the hope that :

1. you have enough assets on the I-864 to be above the 'level' [3 times the amount of the poverty line, about 60,000 in cash in usa account in your name] by interview day, 60 to 120 days after I-130 submittal. Can you two move the cash around within 60 days after filing I-130? . Or you've secured a joint sponser by interview day, 60 to 120 days after I-130 filing, to fill out a 2nd I-864.

2. you prove up usa domicile on interview day. you, not your spouse.

The process I'm describing is called Direct Consular Filing - where the I-130 is submitted into the USCIS office in your country. For Italy, that's ROMA. Is weird, interview occurs in Napoli, not Roma.

Good Luck, and God Speed !

Edited by Darnell

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
Ya know, you can find the answer to your question with the advanced search tool, when using a PC? Ditch the handphone, come back later on a PC, and try again.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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Start process now.

If you live together in Italy, maybe you`ll be "auto- expedite" at USCIS stage.

OMG - Italy still has DCF - no need to hope/wait on the auto-expedite queue in Chicago. Really !

Verify if Italy has Direct Consulate Filling (DCF)

It does. USCIS office address is in ROMA.

Doesn't Rome allow DCF?

Uh, Yep. It's cool, and stuff. OP fits the requirement for filing, so all is golden.


Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
Ya know, you can find the answer to your question with the advanced search tool, when using a PC? Ditch the handphone, come back later on a PC, and try again.

-=-=-=-=-=R E A D ! ! !=-=-=-=-=-

Whoa Nelly ! Want NVC Info? see http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/NVC_Process

Congratulations on your approval ! We All Applaud your accomplishment with Most Wonderful Kissies !

 

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Slovenia
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Oops I didn't know that Italy has DCF....my mistake


N-400 Timeline
04/02/19 N-400 Submitted online
04/22/19 Biometrics
11/05/19 Interview (Approved)


ROC Timeline

Service Center: California

08/11/17 I-751 Packet delivered to USCIS

09/18/17 Biometrics Appointment

08/17/18 2nd extension letter (additional 6 months)

11/02/18 New card is being  produced (Approved)

 

NVC
11-04-2014 NVC case receive

05-20-2015 Visa received

10-06-2015 Time to kick back and let it fly

 

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Filed: Country: Italy
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Thank you all for the information! Much appreciated. If we file in Rome can I go to the US while waiting for approval? What exactly is needed to prove domicile in the US? Can provide a friend's address and show bills arriving in my name there? I plan on doing contract/temp work immediately upon arriving in the US while I look for a permanent position.

I find it a bit frustrating that I need a US address but we currently live abroad and we can't move together until he has the paperwork - but the paperwork requires a US address. Oh well, part of the game & part of the fun! I will be gathering my paperwork and getting translations done.

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Thank you all for the information! Much appreciated. If we file in Rome can I go to the US while waiting for approval? What exactly is needed to prove domicile in the US? Can provide a friend's address and show bills arriving in my name there? I plan on doing contract/temp work immediately upon arriving in the US while I look for a permanent position.

I find it a bit frustrating that I need a US address but we currently live abroad and we can't move together until he has the paperwork - but the paperwork requires a US address. Oh well, part of the game & part of the fun! I will be gathering my paperwork and getting translations done.

A guide to DCF can be found here: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/304-direct-consular-filing-explained/


Immigration Timeline

 

June 2013: Met whilst working at a summer camp in Michigan 

K1

November 1st 2014: I-129f submitted for K1 visa

February 24th 2015: Visa in hand!

February 26th 2015: POE at Las Vegas airport, then onwards to Oregon! 

March 6th 2015: Marriage (with a "real" wedding to follow next year on 7/6/2016)

March 9th 2015: AOS, EAD & AP submitted

September 22nd 2015: Interview

January 14th 2016: Two year Green card received -phew!

ROC

August 8th 2017: 90 day window begins! ROC time!

September 28th 2017: Biometric Appointment in Portland, OR

March 5th 2018: Case received by local office

August 18th 2018: 18 month extension letter mailed

December 2018: Case moved to another office

February 2019: I was emailed that I was approved and my card was in production the same day of my N400 interview 😂

N400

August 8th 2018: Window opens to submit naturalization application

August 13th 2018: N400 Application submitted online 

August 14th 2018: NOA1

September 6th 2018: Biometrics

February 6th 2019: Interview Date! APPROVED!

February 6th 2019: I was asked to return later the same day for my Oath Ceremony! :dance:

 

❤️ Our Visa Journey is finally complete ❤️

 

I am the Beneficiary

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Sweden
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One thing to add. The assets for your AOS don't need to be in a US bank account. My husband and I will use assets from my Swedish bank account to meet the AOS requirements and we have spoken to the US embassy in Sweden as well as USCIS, who both confirm that it doesn't matter if the assets are in America or a foreign country.


Met online October 2010


Engaged December 31st 2011


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USCIS Stage


September 8th 2014 - Filed I-130 with Nebraska Service Center


September 16th 2014 - NOA1 received


March 2nd 2015 - NOA2 received :dancing:



NVC Stage


March 28th 2015 - Choice of agent complete & AOS fee paid


April 17th 2015 - IV fee paid


May 1st 2015 - Sent in IV application


May 12th 2015 - Sent in AOS and IV documents


May 18th 2015 - Scan Date


June 18th 2015 - Checklist received


June 22nd 2015 - Checklist response sent to NVC


June 25th 2015 - Put for Supervisor Review


Sept 15th 2015 - Request help from Texas US Senator Cornyn and his team


Sept 23rd 2015 - Our case is moved from supervisor review to NVC's team for dealing with Senator requests


Nov 4th 2015 - CASE COMPLETE!!!! :dancing:



Embassy Stage


Dec 16th 2015 - Medical exam


Dec 21st 2015 - Interview


Dec 21st 2015 - 221(g) issued at interview for updated forms


Jan 13th 2016 - Mailed our reply to the 221(g) to the US Embassy, received and CEAC updated the next morning


Jan 20th 2016 - Embassy require more in-depth info on asset for i-864


Feb 1st 2016 - Sent more in-depth info on assets as requested. Received the next morning


Feb 16th 2016 - Visa has been issued :dancing: :dancing: :dancing: :dancing: :dancing:



In the US


April 5th 2016 - POE Newark. No questions asked.


April 14th 2016 - SSN received


May 10th 2016 - First day at my new job :dancing:


May 27th 2016 - Green Card received


June 7th 2016 - Got my Texas driver's license

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