"Stop blaming Israel and wake up: The black flag of jihad is the REAL threat to the world"

[OriZ 3,157]

Criticism of Israel is not anti-Semitic. We have said it a thousand times, and we should say it a thousand times more. But to understand the difference between legitimate criticism and anti-Semitism, one must go back a few to an article, one of many, published against Israel. It was not criticism of Israel. It was criticism of a "child murdering community". It was not published in a journal of the Nazi Party in Bavaria. These obscene words were calculations published in The New York Times, 16 percent of those killed in Gaza were aged below 15.

How did Britain conduct itself in its last major conflict? Well, British troops were involved in the invasion of Iraq in 2003. The British medical journal "The Lancet", which is so acceptable to the British progressive forces, 500 soldiers were killed, and 1,200-1,500 non-combatants, hundreds of them children.

And while Belgrade complained of severe harm to innocent people and children, the late Robin Cook, then foreign secretary responded: "How dare they now produce crocodile tears for people killed in the conflict for which they themselves are responsible." Neither the Iraqi nor Serbian armies used children as human shields, nor did they officially announce that they were using children as human shields, as did Hamas. They also did not issue an instruction manual demanding that fighters use concentrations of civilians, as did Hamas. In Baghdad, Basra and Belgrade did not fire rockets at London and Manchester from its schools, as did Hamas. Nevertheless, the British, along with the Americans, caused a far higher number of child deaths, both in relative and absolute terms.

But the Independent newspaper has determined that there is one community in the world that it is permissible to brand as a "child murdering community". This is not the first time that the phrase is has been bandied about in Europe. The tune is all too familiar. Criticism of Israel, it is worth saying again, is not anti-Semitism. But this progressive British newspaper has clearly shown that sometimes, just sometimes, it is not a criticism, or even new anti-Semitism. Sometimes, it is the old anti-Semitism in all its glory.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4562127,00.html

Edited August 23, 2014 by OriZ

[OriZ 3,157]

A Jewish school in Copenhagen had its windows smashed and anti-Jewish graffiti referring to the conflict in Gaza spray-painted on its walls, the school said Friday.

"We know that a political message has been written on the walls but we don't know who is responsible," Jan Hansen, headmaster of Carolineskolen, told AFP.

Messages daubed on the school walls included "No peace in Gaza" and "No peace to you Zionist pigs."

"There have been parents who didn't want to send their children to school today and there have been some children who were sad and a bit afraid who we had to send home," Hansen said.

• There has been <a class="bluelink" data-cke-saved-href="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4548632,00.html" href="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4548632,00.html" '="" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-size: 12px;">growing concern over the rise in anti-Semitic attacks in Europe, as pro-Palestinian protesters have targeted local Jewish communities over the conflict in Gaza.

  In France, anti-Israel demonstrators tried to break into two Paris synagogues and vandalized a kosher butcher shop. In Britain, anti-Semitic attacks have risen to record highs since the start of the conflict, the Community Security Trust, which advises the some quarter of a million British Jews on safety, said last month.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4562302,00.html

[OriZ 3,157]

[Expat1 971]

Here we go again. "Someone else somewhere else does it so that makes it OK for us to do it too".

Words scrawled on a wall vs random bricks thrown at 6-yr-old Palestinian kids that split their heads open or dogs sicced on them or parents sending their children out to chase and beat them up? Time for the people of Israel to speak up... Or not. Up to them.

Edited August 23, 2014 by Expat1

[Póg mo 1,749]

Any form or system of government or group of people that is oppressive and does not recognize individual rights of life, freedom, and property is a threat to the world.

Israel does it, and ISIS does it. They are cut from identical cloth.

Pounding on Syria to help ISIS out seems like a good strategy.

Wait - that's exactly what they did

I am really beginning to believe that Israel would only love to have ISIS take over from Hamas. Think of the propaganda value! They [iSIS] hate us and want us wiped off the map, so we have no choice, but to....

[Boiler 43,436]

IS and Hamas are similar in outlook but not capability.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

Hamas seems to have a better PR team... ISIS should call them and set up a weapons a for "understanding the west" exchange.

[Pooky 3,348]

Honestly you have written much. You copy/paste 20 paragraph opinion pieces here and think people are going to read all of that. How about trimming it down to your point and then linking the article? Then I can do a much better job of telling you why you're wrong.

Because then some people complain about having to go read the link.

Some people are never satisfied.

[OriZ 3,157]

Since your definition of "distort" is to copy and paste word for word exactly what you said I guess your definition of "distortion" is not the same as mine (or the same as the dictionary either)

So Israel DID strike targets when the targets they struck were fighting ISIS rebels? Do you acknowledge that? They did, its a fact. In doing so they got involved in the Syrian civil war. On the side of ISIS.

You distorted it because you didn't paste all of it, but only what served you. I challenged you several times to paste the rest of what I wrote 2 years ago, which was exactly what I wrote this time around, but you declined.

[OriZ 3,157]

Saudi foreign minister: we must denounce our hatred toward Israel and begin normalize ties with Jewish nation

Speaking on the sidelines of the world assembly of Islamic scholars in Jeddh, Saud bin Faisal Al Saud said that the Middle-East needs peace and co-existence more than ever and Saudi Arabia as a leading Islamic country is ready to make sacrifices in peace negations and encourages President Abbas to follow the same policy.

Referring to the ongoing war in Gaza strip, the Saudi foreign Minster stressed that Hamas authority is the sole responsible for Palestinian calamity and they must brought before the law.

The Saudi official further added that Arab World Increasingly Frustrated With Hamas which is seeking more wars.

In recent day Israel’s air-strikes against Gaza Strip drew many condemnations from the Arab oil-rich states of the Persian Gulf, while Saudi media is increasingly open in criticizing defiant Hamas for resisting Israeli aggression against impoverished Palestinian enclave.

Media in Saudi Arabia and Egypt blame Hamas’ actions for Israeli war and prioritizing conflict over the safety of the Gazan population and criticized the leadership for waging war far from the conflict, a Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) report shows.

After Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal criticized Arab inaction in Gaza, Saudi Al- okaz daily columnists responded emphatically.

“[Meshaal], we are tired of defending the [Palestinian] cause that you have sold for cheap to an MB (Muslim Brotherhood) gang whose way you followed even though they have lost their [own] way,” wrote columnist Abdul-Hamdi Razaq. He also called Meshaal out for living in luxurious Qatari hotels instead of fighting in Gaza.

Hamas is losing its legitimacy because it was sacrificing Palestinians while using financial aid to promote its interests, wrote Al-Watan columnist Abdullah Al-Sayyid.

http://awdnews.com/top-news/9417-saudi-foreign-minister-we-must-denounce-our-hatred-toward-israel-and-begin-normalize-ties-with-jewish-nation.html

Somehow only the kind folks in this forum(I have to admit not all but only a few) don't see what even the Saudis, Egyptians, and other Muslims/Arabs in the region see.

The wonders of the VJ forum.

Edited August 24, 2014 by OriZ

[unsmiley 111]

While you are busy committing war crimes, it is best to keep screeching about someone else, I guess.

And no hypocrisy here - the USA does this in its foreign policy, and with guess who in the middle east. Israel.

The injustice has to stop in order for the victims to give up their struggle. The land theft and refugee status of the Palestinians needs to be righted.

Constantly repeating the same tired Israel-hating falsehoods does NOT make them true. Israel never "stole" any land from the Palestinians or anyone else. Why is Israel the only country in the world that -- after winning (tiny amounts of) land during wars that they did not start -- people think they have somehow "stolen" land??? No other country has ever been held to that "standard." Answer: anti-Semitism, that's why.

I suppose you think that after they are attacked, and subsequently conquer their aggressors, they should apologize and give back land won in war. Give me a friggin' break.

Any form or system of government or group of people that is oppressive and does not recognize individual rights of life, freedom, and property is a threat to the world.

Israel does it, and ISIS does it. They are cut from identical cloth.

Equating Israel with ISIS? What an incredibly disgusting, idiotic statement.

Edited August 24, 2014 by unsmiley

[Karee 4,189]

Constantly repeating the same tired Israel-hating falsehoods does NOT make them true. Israel never "stole" any land from the Palestinians or anyone else. Why is Israel the only country in the world that -- after winning (tiny amounts of) land during wars that they did not start -- people think they have somehow "stolen" land??? No other country has ever been held to that "standard." Answer: anti-Semitism, that's why.

Then annex it and make all the inhabitants Israeli citizens. Nothing anti-semitic about that. Someone was going on about how they did that in parts of the Golan Heights earlier today.

[eieio 1,594]

OriZ,

Thank you for posting up these articles. It is very educational for me. I especially enjoyed the article about the informant.

[OriZ 3,157]

OriZ,

Thank you for posting up these articles. It is very educational for me. I especially enjoyed the article about the informant.

My pleasure!

Then annex it and make all the inhabitants Israeli citizens. Nothing anti-semitic about that. Someone was going on about how they did that in parts of the Golan Heights earlier today.

Israel did not annex parts of the Golan Heights. It annexed ALL of the Golan Heights. It left Gaza. The only territory left that Israel control parts of without either a withdrawal or annexation is the west bank.

The Golan Heights is Israeli territory. Internationally recognized or not.

[OriZ 3,157]

Tell me some more about how Hamas cares about its people.

Three Israeli Arabs were wounded by a mortar shell fired at the Erez Crossing as Palestinians from Gaza were entering Israel for medical care.

In the early afternoon a mortar wounded three Israeli Arabs who work as taxi drivers tasked with taking a group of Gazans from the crossing into Israel for medical care. Roughly an hour later, the IAF hit the site from where the mortar was launched. In the meantime, Hamas has taken responsiblity for the attack, saying it fired 15 mortars at the crossing.

Photo: Yoav Zitun

The attack took place at the Erez Crossing in the Hof Ashkelon Regional Council while a group of ill Palestinians was making the crossing. Soldiers evacuated the wounded as mortars continued to fall.

One of the Palestinians attempting to make the crossing spoke to Ynet and said "the war does what it wants with us. I hope both sides put an end to it. There is too much fear in Gaza and in Israel. All we wanted was to get medical care."

The three suffered shrapnel and blast injuries. One of them was seriously hurt in his stomach and rushed into operation. His situation is now stable. Another was also hit in his stomach. He was hospitalized in intensive care and will be operated later Sunday. A third suffered fractures in his arm and will undergo operation later Sunday.

The wounded are aged 27, 41 and 56 and are from the Bedouin community of Rahat, while a third was from East Jerusalem. The crossing has since been shut in wake of the attack.

Mortar hits Erez Crossing, wounds five (Photo: Yoav Zitun)

Abed Ra'asab, from East Jerusalm, arrived at the crossing to transfer a young relative of his suffering cancer to a hospital in Jeruslam and witnessed the scene. When he arrived at the Palestinian side of the crossing the attack began. "It was so close, but thank God I was close to a shelter, those wounded were farther away. The (IDF) paramedics quickly took care of the wounded.

The mortar hit one of the few active crossings connecting Israel to Gaza, specifically the one intended for human passage. A car belonging to one of the Israeli-Arabs sustained damage. A young Palestinian girl who was at the crossing suffered anxiety and she was seen shaking from fear.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4562669,00.html