Married Abroad With Fake Birth Certificate

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

One thing i don't get is how can one get a BC (by definition a state record of the event of birth) in a country they weren't born in. Didn't you know they're their own country and not part of the US?..

Americans get married abroad all the time. Here you just have to prove you're not married in the US to do it.

How? Because he got a fake one. He purposely got a fake document to defraud the marriage clerks.

He did so because it seems there are different rules for foreigners and locals, so instead following the rules and registering someplace as a foreigner that wants to marry, he just got a fake certificate and pretended to be Mexican.

Somehow he thought this was a good plan and a great start to a marriage.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Wow, my first double post error.

Edited April 1, 2014 by Harpa Timsah

[Hollyday 122]

How? Because he got a fake one. He purposely got a fake document to defraud the marriage clerks.

He did so because it seems there are different rules for foreigners and locals, so instead following the rules and registering someplace as a foreigner that wants to marry, he just got a fake certificate and pretended to be Mexican.

Somehow he thought this was a good plan and a great start to a marriage.

Oh wow. A cunning plan, oh so cunning.

And the question is now how to hoodwink the US government to think he didn't? Right. Not sure why, but somehow i doubt that'd work.

[Kajikit 65]

Sounds like he was never legally married in the first place...

[justinfelony 0]

I DID NOT purposely want to DEFRAUD ANY FOREIGN GOVERNMENT. I was on vacation from my job and only had THREE WEEKS to spend with her. I wanted TO LIVE WITH HER during that time but SHE WOULDN’T UNLESS I GOT MARRIED. I TOOK my ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE and PASSPORT to the judge and he told me it had to be apostilled by my native state of birth. Seeing that this was going to take a lot of time, probably around several weeks’ time, and because MY STAY IN MEXICO WAS LIMITED due to my JOB CONSTRAINTS, I decided to act quickly and take his second option, i.e., to register as a Mexican native. Being that her parents wanted their daughter to be married before she moved in with me, I married. Like I said before, my intention was never to defraud anyone, and I’m trying to make things right now. Here in the states if you’re an undocumented immigrant or whatever you can marry as long as you show a VALID FOREIGN ID card. There in Mexico it’s different: I had to have my birth certificate apostilled (certified) by my native state of birth in the US and SINCE I DIDN’T HAVE THE LUXURY OF WAITING indefinitely, unless I wanted to be unemployed, I took the alternative route in order TO LIVE WITH HER. It may seem childish and stupid in hindsight; but I did what I did and reacted quickly in order to obtain the goal. It’s as simple as that. PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES AND WE LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF THOSE MISTAKES. Seeing that were BOTH IN OUR TWENTIES and none of us have kids , I’d say we have a lot of options still to think of the future.

[Boiler 43,582]

So you are saying you were thinking with your #######?

[christeen 966]

I do not think 3 weeks can be classified as "living" with someone... Basically you are saying you made a lifetime commitment with someone via marriage by lying about legal documents in order to spend 3 weeks in the same bed and under the same roof with a woman... Yes,I agree that the wrong head might have been in charge in that one.

And i might add, before you commit your mother to sighngmthat she will be financially liable for so done for 10 years, I would have a discussion with her. Does she even know you are married? Now you doubt her sincerity? Wowzers !

[sweet cakes 326]

I DID NOT purposely want to DEFRAUD ANY FOREIGN GOVERNMENT. I was on vacation from my job and only had THREE WEEKS to spend with her. I wanted TO LIVE WITH HER during that time but SHE WOULDN’T UNLESS I GOT MARRIED. I TOOK my ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE and PASSPORT to the judge and he told me it had to be apostilled by my native state of birth. Seeing that this was going to take a lot of time, probably around several weeks’ time, and because MY STAY IN MEXICO WAS LIMITED due to my JOB CONSTRAINTS, I decided to act quickly and take his second option, i.e., to register as a Mexican native. Being that her parents wanted their daughter to be married before she moved in with me, I married. Like I said before, my intention was never to defraud anyone, and I’m trying to make things right now. Here in the states if you’re an undocumented immigrant or whatever you can marry as long as you show a VALID FOREIGN ID card. There in Mexico it’s different: I had to have my birth certificate apostilled (certified) by my native state of birth in the US and SINCE I DIDN’T HAVE THE LUXURY OF WAITING indefinitely, unless I wanted to be unemployed, I took the alternative route in order TO LIVE WITH HER. It may seem childish and stupid in hindsight; but I did what I did and reacted quickly in order to obtain the goal. It’s as simple as that. PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES AND WE LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF THOSE MISTAKES. Seeing that were BOTH IN OUR TWENTIES and none of us have kids , I’d say we have a lot of options still to think of the future.

What you did is exactly what fraud means.

Edited April 2, 2014 by sweet cakes

[belinda63 2,981]

Wow, just wow. Seems you are going to be spending some time in Mexico getting this fake marriage straightened out. You can't file for a fiancé visa since you are "married" but you aren't really married since you lied to obtain the legal document.

Good to know I can go to Mexico anytime I want and become a Mexican citizen with just some fake paperwork.

Edited April 2, 2014 by belinda63

[JohnR! 5,495]

I DID NOT purposely want to DEFRAUD ANY FOREIGN GOVERNMENT. I was on vacation from my job and only had THREE WEEKS to spend with her. I wanted TO LIVE WITH HER during that time but SHE WOULDN’T UNLESS I GOT MARRIED. I TOOK my ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE and PASSPORT to the judge and he told me it had to be apostilled by my native state of birth. Seeing that this was going to take a lot of time, probably around several weeks’ time, and because MY STAY IN MEXICO WAS LIMITED due to my JOB CONSTRAINTS, I decided to act quickly and take his second option, i.e., to register as a Mexican native. Being that her parents wanted their daughter to be married before she moved in with me, I married. Like I said before, my intention was never to defraud anyone, and I’m trying to make things right now. Here in the states if you’re an undocumented immigrant or whatever you can marry as long as you show a VALID FOREIGN ID card. There in Mexico it’s different: I had to have my birth certificate apostilled (certified) by my native state of birth in the US and SINCE I DIDN’T HAVE THE LUXURY OF WAITING indefinitely, unless I wanted to be unemployed, I took the alternative route in order TO LIVE WITH HER. It may seem childish and stupid in hindsight; but I did what I did and reacted quickly in order to obtain the goal. It’s as simple as that. PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES AND WE LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF THOSE MISTAKES. Seeing that were BOTH IN OUR TWENTIES and none of us have kids , I’d say we have a lot of options still to think of the future.

If you want to fix it, chances are you will need to have your Mexican marriage annulled, since it was performed based on false information. It is considered fraud because you willingly provided the authorities with a fake birth certificate.

My suggestion would be for you to get a lawyer in Mexico, have your marriage annulled and once that is done - and not before - file for a K-1 visa, so that your fiancee can enter the US to marry you, stay and get her green card.

Optionally, once your marriage is annulled you can get your US birth certificate in order as required by the authorities in Mexico and marry your fiancee there, legally, this time around and then file for her CR/IR visa, so she can enter the US on a I-551 visa (greencard) and establish residence.

Either option should get you straightened out with the civil laws in both countries and with the USCIS in the US.

Good luck!

Edited April 2, 2014 by Gegel