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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Nigeria
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i know people that have done it. They do it just for the baby to have citizenship, not for themselves. They leave shortly after baby is born. I would say it is fraud technically because unless she indicated her purpose of coming here is to give birth then she is lying. Also the people I know pay for their hospital stay

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i know people that have done it. They do it just for the baby to have citizenship, not for themselves. They leave shortly after baby is born. I would say it is fraud technically because unless she indicated her purpose of coming here is to give birth then she is lying. Also the people I know pay for their hospital stay

Yes, I know of a "business" that specializes in arranging for women from Russia to come to Miami to have their baby here so the child can have US citizenship. The mother pays for the stay and the hospital bill. After the baby is born and the paperwork is done they return to Russia.

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Birth tourism is alive and well in the US: http://rockcenter.nbcnews.com/_news/2011/10/28/8511587-born-in-the-usa-birth-tourists-get-instant-us-citizenship-for-their-newborns?lite

While I think more people using tourist visas to have babies in the US are coming from different backgrounds than those in the article above, ultimately I'm not positive it's fraud. Having a baby in the US, which amounts to a medical procedure in essence, is a type of medical tourism, which most develop countries seek to promote. What is problematic is when people do so without paying the medical costs themselves, taking advantage of the fact that the babies' future US citizenship qualifies them for state-aided medical coverage of prenatal care and birth and such. But this is not an issue in the immigration sense as it's neither an immigration violation nor a criminal one (the medical assistance is technically for the US citizen baby, not the mom), so what they are doing is actually legal, especially provided their visa status remains current and they aren't violating it by working or anything else. No, that baby will not be able to petition them for a visa until they reach the age of 21 and even then, a child won't qualify to file a waiver for a parent if any other immigration issues besides overstay of visa come into play. Who knows what the ultimate motive is for having the baby in the US, although country conditions stand to play a big role, for sure. Enfuriating to be using public money, sure. But fraud, probably not?

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But you gotta look at it this way too....with all the probelms in Syria would you want to live there and have your baby there? I don't agree with it but I can have compassion for her because the situation there is very bad.

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I agree with you hamigirl.It is not our business minding other people lives. It is their call not yours so leave them alone.some people are so backstabbing. Is that selfishness???

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She is illegal, and it is true that having her child born in the US will make the child a US Citizen. This is when it gets politics and has been a major controversial subject on this matter. Many are in the same shoes thinking if they have a child here in the US being illegal themselves, it will allow them to stay and not get deported but, its half and half. Life will be hard for her, and she will be using the child, when born, to get by and relied on public assistance/ social welfare. She has no SS#, no legal status and will not get any because she is illegal. Again, because of the child, she will get something to get by for the child from welfare.

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from what I am reading this lady came here legally. The slaughter in Syria is outrageous. Every day there are photos of children murdered in the streets. Entire cities wiped out. Who wouldn't dream of a better life. Survival. Sure there are makeshift villages in turkey to help. But these people live in tents, and its getting colder in east turkey. Little food or water. Its astonishing. So, I support the mother wanting more for her child. It was not done to just bleed the American people of their tax dollars. She doesn't want her or her child to die!

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a tourist visa lasts for a maximum of 6 months, not 9.

She cannot stay, even though her baby will be a US citizen- the US citizen baby cannot petition for its mother until s/he is 21 years old. So your friend is either lying to you or doesn't understand how immigration works.

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She must have applied for TPS, which should be good for another year.

That's my thought as well.

It'd be GREAT, SuperDuper, even, if'n the OP studied all of her documents and cards issued by USCIS/DHS.

She is illegal, and it is true that having her child born in the US will make the child a US Citizen. This is when it gets politics and has been a major controversial subject on this matter. Many are in the same shoes thinking if they have a child here in the US being illegal themselves, it will allow them to stay and not get deported but, its half and half. Life will be hard for her, and she will be using the child, when born, to get by and relied on public assistance/ social welfare. She has no SS#, no legal status and will not get any because she is illegal. Again, because of the child, she will get something to get by for the child from welfare.

But she's not illegal - she applied for, and got, TPS.

She's now eligible for a SSN and can work when she has it.

TPS is cool, when it works.

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from what I am reading this lady came here legally. The slaughter in Syria is outrageous. Every day there are photos of children murdered in the streets. Entire cities wiped out. Who wouldn't dream of a better life. Survival. Sure there are makeshift villages in turkey to help. But these people live in tents, and its getting colder in east turkey. Little food or water. Its astonishing. So, I support the mother wanting more for her child. It was not done to just bleed the American people of their tax dollars. She doesn't want her or her child to die!

Totally agree here. I usually do not support tax payers abuse of any kind but I can't blame the mother in that case. Things are bad in Syria for a couple of months now. Who knows what she has been through herself before coming here?? Who are we to judge her? Pregnant in Syria, with all that horror. Poor woman. Who knows what happened to the father...If it would have been me and I had the opportunity to leave in a develop country like the US I wouldn't think twice: you just take the f*** plane. I really hope she will get asylum, I don't mind paying taxes for people who have nothing else left in life.

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she got asylum, she has a green card , she's here legally under TPS as she applied for TPS and got TPS.

IMO, the OP 'led us on' by simply not being complete with all of the information .

Oh Well.

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So let's say I am a wealthy Norwegian, Swiss or Canadian Man (I think the trio can be argued as being low on the low fraud countries, yes?) and I have a Wife who was having difficult pregnancies, could I apply for say a visa to the US for her to be under the care of a fop flight medical professional in the USA?

Couldn't the end result of the visit be the safe delivery of my offspring and that the US citizenship is just a collateral damage?

Discuss.

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So let's say I am a wealthy Norwegian, Swiss or Canadian Man (I think the trio can be argued as being low on the low fraud countries, yes?) and I have a Wife who was having difficult pregnancies, could I apply for say a visa to the US for her to be under the care of a fop flight medical professional in the USA?

Couldn't the end result of the visit be the safe delivery of my offspring and that the US citizenship is just a collateral damage?

Discuss.

Yes you technically could do this...as long as the medical bills are being paid by said wealthy man...their are wealthy Americans that have done this just so their children can have citizenship in other counties. Those who have the funds to do this I say go for it. But those who do it for the wrong reasons is the problem. My sister works for the state and she says people come in on a regular bases with tourist visas and get assistance for one thing or the other.

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The country the lady is from is not that material.

One of the uses of a B2 is to seek medical help, part of the application would include medical evidence and proof of funds for treatment.

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