Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
lawren14

issues about calling your fiance "hubby" on emails.

45 posts in this topic

Recommended Posts

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
Timeline

I learned just recently that it's a big no-no to submit any copy of evidence that shows you're calling your fiance, "hubby".. I was so pissed w/ myself because in ALMOST EVERY EMAIL AND LETTER that i sent my fiance throughout these years, there was this red flag wherein I called him HUBBY. :bonk: Now, I don't know if I have to just forget about submitting those emails, or can just erase the part of the emails wherein I called him that way. But honestly, I think erasing a part of the emails is not a good idea cause the consul might ask me why I have those marks on the letters/emails which seemed to be erased.. It would look more obvious, dont you think? :wacko: But if I wont do that, I will have no emails to submit. But he does call me everyday, and I do call him through skype too. and we chat for like twice a week.. Will that be enough as proof of ongoing relationship? Thanks. :blink:


I-129F Sent : 2012 Feb 29

I-129F NOA1 : 2012 Mar 06

I-129F NOA2 : 2012 July 09

NVC case number: 2012 July 24

NVC notice received: 2012 July 30

Medical Exam : 2012 Aug 13-14.. PASSED :)

INTERVIEW : 2012 Sept 13.. PASSED!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH, LORD!

VISA DELIVERED: 2012 Sept 19

AOS

sent - dec 7,2012

noa1 - dec10,2012

bio - jan 7,2013

ead approved - feb 1, 2013

ead on hand -

*** TO GOD BE THE GLORY ***

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
Timeline

You are going to have to forget about using those emails. An alternative could be to put all the messages from him in a special email folder (if you haven't already done so) showing all messages received along with the timestamp, you can just print the index showing the sender, subject line, and timestamp. This suggestion is viable only if you used no spousal terms in the subject line.


Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Filed: Timeline

I learned just recently that it's a big no-no to submit any copy of evidence that shows you're calling your fiance, "hubby".. I was so pissed w/ myself because in ALMOST EVERY EMAIL AND LETTER that i sent my fiance throughout these years, there was this red flag wherein I called him HUBBY. :bonk: Now, I don't know if I have to just forget about submitting those emails, or can just erase the part of the emails wherein I called him that way. But honestly, I think erasing a part of the emails is not a good idea cause the consul might ask me why I have those marks on the letters/emails which seemed to be erased.. It would look more obvious, dont you think? :wacko: But if I wont do that, I will have no emails to submit. But he does call me everyday, and I do call him through skype too. and we chat for like twice a week.. Will that be enough as proof of ongoing relationship? Thanks. :blink:

What country is he from? This is a bigger deal to some consulates than to others. If he's from a "high-fraud" country, this is a huge red flag. If he's from a "low-fraud" country, it's still questionable. Forget about using the emails. DON'T send altered emails. if found out, it's equal to misrepresentation and will only result in a denied visa and likely bar from entering the country.

Using emails as evidence is not a must, it's a bonus. If you have enough additional evidence, no emails are needed.

I called my wife "wifey" long before we got married too. But this is not an issue when filing a 130.

Edited by jaejayC

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My 2 cents: I have no idea what your source of on go is, but know this, except for breaking, violating, or hiding required information, there is no one red flag. I guess you will learn it as time goes by. We all on this site are so desperate and frustrated that we tend to hold on to every possible information. However, this I don't think would be measured as a red flag under any normal situation. Even if someone was rejected and was stated using of "hubby" in the mails, you would not know the chains of events that triggered the rejection. Just the way one may get rejected for using that workd or other words, thousands may not get rejected or even repriemended. The process tries to find a genuine relationship and if it raises doubt, lots of actions may seem dubious, even a regular action. So don't pull your hair out with the hubby word.

If you are truthful and is genuine with the relationship, keep your head high, and face everything with courage and conviction. If a problem comes your way, look at various options, evaluate them and deal with it your way using your judgment.

Best of luck.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
Timeline

What country is he from? This is a bigger deal to some consulates than to others. If he's from a "high-fraud" country, this is a huge red flag. If he's from a "low-fraud" country, it's still questionable. Forget about using the emails. DON'T send altered emails.

I am the beneficiary, I'm from manila, Philippines.. yeah I guess I wont be using those emails anymore. Thank you :)

Edited by lawren14

I-129F Sent : 2012 Feb 29

I-129F NOA1 : 2012 Mar 06

I-129F NOA2 : 2012 July 09

NVC case number: 2012 July 24

NVC notice received: 2012 July 30

Medical Exam : 2012 Aug 13-14.. PASSED :)

INTERVIEW : 2012 Sept 13.. PASSED!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH, LORD!

VISA DELIVERED: 2012 Sept 19

AOS

sent - dec 7,2012

noa1 - dec10,2012

bio - jan 7,2013

ead approved - feb 1, 2013

ead on hand -

*** TO GOD BE THE GLORY ***

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
Timeline

You are going to have to forget about using those emails. An alternative could be to put all the messages from him in a special email folder (if you haven't already done so) showing all messages received along with the timestamp, you can just print the index showing the sender, subject line, and timestamp. This suggestion is viable only if you used no spousal terms in the subject line.

yeah, great idea. why haven't i thought of that? :bonk: Thank you, Ryan.


I-129F Sent : 2012 Feb 29

I-129F NOA1 : 2012 Mar 06

I-129F NOA2 : 2012 July 09

NVC case number: 2012 July 24

NVC notice received: 2012 July 30

Medical Exam : 2012 Aug 13-14.. PASSED :)

INTERVIEW : 2012 Sept 13.. PASSED!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH, LORD!

VISA DELIVERED: 2012 Sept 19

AOS

sent - dec 7,2012

noa1 - dec10,2012

bio - jan 7,2013

ead approved - feb 1, 2013

ead on hand -

*** TO GOD BE THE GLORY ***

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Filed: K-1 Visa Country: China
Timeline

We had the same problem, but I included a note saying something along the lines of: after we fell in love we adopted cute names for eachother including - honey, sweetheart, wifey, hubby,etc., which you will see used in many emails and im's. No one ever asked us about this.

Good luck. :)


Met on line: 7-4-2007

Sent petition to Vermont Service Center on 8-11-2010

NOA1 VSC 8-27-10

NOA2 VSC 2-7-11

Interview 5-12-11

Approved 5-12-11

POE: LA/6-15-2011

Married 8-26-2011

AOS: Submitted 10-7-2011

AOS Interview: 2-23-2012 Approved

Green Card Recvd: 2-28-2012

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
Timeline

We had the same problem, but I included a note saying something along the lines of: after we fell in love we adopted cute names for eachother including - honey, sweetheart, wifey, hubby,etc., which you will see used in many emails and im's. No one ever asked us about this.

Good luck. :)

:thumbs::thumbs:

Edited by Ken & Lecia

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
Timeline

My 2 cents: I have no idea what your source of on go is, but know this, except for breaking, violating, or hiding required information, there is no one red flag. I guess you will learn it as time goes by. We all on this site are so desperate and frustrated that we tend to hold on to every possible information. However, this I don't think would be measured as a red flag under any normal situation. Even if someone was rejected and was stated using of "hubby" in the mails, you would not know the chains of events that triggered the rejection. Just the way one may get rejected for using that workd or other words, thousands may not get rejected or even repriemended. The process tries to find a genuine relationship and if it raises doubt, lots of actions may seem dubious, even a regular action. So don't pull your hair out with the hubby word.

If you are truthful and is genuine with the relationship, keep your head high, and face everything with courage and conviction. If a problem comes your way, look at various options, evaluate them and deal with it your way using your judgment.

Best of luck.

very well said, hell raiser. Thank you :)

The reason I am so frustrated w/ that hubby word is, because as far as I know in K1 visa, we have to prove that our relationship is genuine and bona fide, but we also have to prove as well that we are JUST ABOUT TO MARRY each other. Because of course, if we were married then we should have filed for a K3 and not K1, right? And I think calling him HUBBY might make the CO suspect that we were already married. But honestly, just like you, I think it isn't new to hear unmarried couples call each other "hubby - wifey".. I guess the CO are just really strict about it. I learned that from reading a lot of posts. LOL.

But anyways, you are right, we all in this site are desperate for information that might help us, and Im happy to see a lot of users here to give their opinions and experiences as way of helping other members. It gives hope to those who are frustrated. God bless you guys. :D


I-129F Sent : 2012 Feb 29

I-129F NOA1 : 2012 Mar 06

I-129F NOA2 : 2012 July 09

NVC case number: 2012 July 24

NVC notice received: 2012 July 30

Medical Exam : 2012 Aug 13-14.. PASSED :)

INTERVIEW : 2012 Sept 13.. PASSED!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH, LORD!

VISA DELIVERED: 2012 Sept 19

AOS

sent - dec 7,2012

noa1 - dec10,2012

bio - jan 7,2013

ead approved - feb 1, 2013

ead on hand -

*** TO GOD BE THE GLORY ***

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
Timeline

We had the same problem, but I included a note saying something along the lines of: after we fell in love we adopted cute names for eachother including - honey, sweetheart, wifey, hubby,etc., which you will see used in many emails and im's. No one ever asked us about this.

Good luck. :)

Wow, really?? Im glad to hear an answer based on own experience. Thank you. But honestly I'm still anxious about it. Well, I guess you understand how I feel right now. All I want is to make this K1 thing successful so I could be w/ my fiance as soon as possible.. I'm so scared of making mistakes.. That's why I am so dead careful about every single angle of this case. very stressful. sigh* Wish our case will turn out fine just like yours. Thank you! :)


I-129F Sent : 2012 Feb 29

I-129F NOA1 : 2012 Mar 06

I-129F NOA2 : 2012 July 09

NVC case number: 2012 July 24

NVC notice received: 2012 July 30

Medical Exam : 2012 Aug 13-14.. PASSED :)

INTERVIEW : 2012 Sept 13.. PASSED!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH, LORD!

VISA DELIVERED: 2012 Sept 19

AOS

sent - dec 7,2012

noa1 - dec10,2012

bio - jan 7,2013

ead approved - feb 1, 2013

ead on hand -

*** TO GOD BE THE GLORY ***

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Sierra Leone
Timeline

fiance is totally differ from hubby..so i guess you use other emails......they probably think you all married already but you chose to file k1....you can say babe, honey,pookie pie, punkin pie, use all the sweet,juicy names in the universe and stay away from using hubby.


K-1 mailed March 10

NOA1- March 14th

NOA1-Hardcopy recieved March 18th

NOA2 August 12th

Waiting for NVC to assign case number!..

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Finland
Timeline

Why send any emails at all? There are many other less invasive ways to prove your relationship than private communications between the two of you. It's none of the USCIS' business what the two of you call each other. :)


“The minute I heard my first love story I started looking for you, not knowing how blind that was.
Lovers don't finally meet somewhere.
They're in each other all along.”


Jalal ad-Din Rumi

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Australia
Timeline

My 2 cents: I have no idea what your source of on go is, but know this, except for breaking, violating, or hiding required information, there is no one red flag. I guess you will learn it as time goes by. We all on this site are so desperate and frustrated that we tend to hold on to every possible information. However, this I don't think would be measured as a red flag under any normal situation. Even if someone was rejected and was stated using of "hubby" in the mails, you would not know the chains of events that triggered the rejection. Just the way one may get rejected for using that workd or other words, thousands may not get rejected or even repriemended. The process tries to find a genuine relationship and if it raises doubt, lots of actions may seem dubious, even a regular action. So don't pull your hair out with the hubby word.

If you are truthful and is genuine with the relationship, keep your head high, and face everything with courage and conviction. If a problem comes your way, look at various options, evaluate them and deal with it your way using your judgment.

Best of luck.

I am sure I have read of people who got denied or RFE'd at least for this. I would not send emails where you call each other hubby or wifey or wife etc.

Best to make sure you are doing the right thing and why even chance it?

Good luck :blush:


We became a couple : 2011-05-29
I visited him : 2011-10-28 - 2011-11-17
He visited me (and my crazy family) : 2012-02-05 - 2012-02-17
I-129F Sent : 2012-02-05
I-129F NOA1 : 2012-02-14
I entered on VWP to stay 3 months: 2012-04-11 - 2012-07-03
---
Went to get my medical done for interview in Australia (much cheaper in the US and I was already here):2012-05-20
Medical issue diagnosed
K-1 petition cancellation request sent to CSC : 2012-06-01
Married: 2012-06-21
Filed for AOS : 2012-08-08
NOA1 : 2012-08-10
Biometrics : 2012-09-14
EAD approved : 2012-10-16
Applied for SSN : 2012-11-01
Received SSN : 2012-11-13
Received interview notice :2012-12-27
Interview- APPROVED :2013-01-28
Green card received :2013-02-04
Baby girl born :2013-03-09

Filed for ROC :2014-12-05
NOA :2014-12-11
Biometrics : 2015-01-15

ROC Approval : 2015-05-14

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ukraine
Timeline

I learned just recently that it's a big no-no to submit any copy of evidence that shows you're calling your fiance, "hubby".. I was so pissed w/ myself because in ALMOST EVERY EMAIL AND LETTER that i sent my fiance throughout these years, there was this red flag wherein I called him HUBBY. :bonk: Now, I don't know if I have to just forget about submitting those emails, or can just erase the part of the emails wherein I called him that way. But honestly, I think erasing a part of the emails is not a good idea cause the consul might ask me why I have those marks on the letters/emails which seemed to be erased.. It would look more obvious, dont you think? :wacko: But if I wont do that, I will have no emails to submit. But he does call me everyday, and I do call him through skype too. and we chat for like twice a week.. Will that be enough as proof of ongoing relationship? Thanks. :blink:

STOP DOING THAT! I would forget about submitting those eamails and submit something else. FWIW at our interview I submitted THREE emails from each of us over the period of our realtionship. They di dnot even read them or take them "behind the window" You do not need to submit every email you ever wrote. Better is an "email log" which shows all the emails that passed between you two, the dates and times and the subjects.

DO NOT refer to your fiancee as your husband, hubby or anything like that. I do not even call my wife "wife" when I talk to her and usually refer to her as "Alla" when speaking in third person such as in posts. Her name is no secret and has worked pretty good all her life...I sugest you use his name.

Pet names are OK "sweetheart", "honey" etc but NOTHING that refers to marital status.


VERMONT! I Reject Your Reality...and Substitute My Own!

Gary And Alla

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
Timeline

I learned just recently that it's a big no-no to submit any copy of evidence that shows you're calling your fiance, "hubby".. I was so pissed w/ myself because in ALMOST EVERY EMAIL AND LETTER that i sent my fiance throughout these years, there was this red flag wherein I called him HUBBY. :bonk: Now, I don't know if I have to just forget about submitting those emails, or can just erase the part of the emails wherein I called him that way. But honestly, I think erasing a part of the emails is not a good idea cause the consul might ask me why I have those marks on the letters/emails which seemed to be erased.. It would look more obvious, dont you think? :wacko: But if I wont do that, I will have no emails to submit. But he does call me everyday, and I do call him through skype too. and we chat for like twice a week.. Will that be enough as proof of ongoing relationship? Thanks. :blink:

So many successful K-1 applicants from the Philippines have reported that they did not provide any emails at all. Scan this website for them. A print-out of emails is very poor evidence, anyway. Provide things that better show you have visited, such as airline tickets, visa stamps, hotel registrations (with both names included), or perhaps evidence of financial support (Xoom or WU receipts), etc.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
Didn't find the answer you were looking for? Ask our VJ Immigration Lawyers.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
- Back to Top -


Important Disclaimer: Please read carefully the Visajourney.com Terms of Service. If you do not agree to the Terms of Service you should not access or view any page (including this page) on VisaJourney.com. Answers and comments provided on Visajourney.com Forums are general information, and are not intended to substitute for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or other professional advice. Visajourney.com does not endorse, and expressly disclaims liability for any product, manufacturer, distributor, service or service provider mentioned or any opinion expressed in answers or comments. VisaJourney.com does not condone immigration fraud in any way, shape or manner. VisaJourney.com recommends that if any member or user knows directly of someone involved in fraudulent or illegal activity, that they report such activity directly to the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. You can contact ICE via email at Immigration.Reply@dhs.gov or you can telephone ICE at 1-866-347-2423. All reported threads/posts containing reference to immigration fraud or illegal activities will be removed from this board. If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by contacting us here with a url link to that content. Thank you.
×
×
  • Create New...