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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Belgium
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Hi all,

After lots of reading on this forum, we sent in our I-130 to the Chicago lockbox.

Now when preparing the next steps, including the I-864.

Me and my wife have 2 kids together. Both have dual nationality but were born in my home country.

I assume they can just move to the States without administrative hassle, but is that really so?

When crawling trough tons of info, some of that info seems to contradict.

So, do i have to arrange or start up an immigration proces for my 2 kids or can I just put them on a plan when the time comes?

To complete the info, mu wife is an American who has lived her whole life with me in Europe and is also dual.

best regards,

Knockse

09/2011: Trying to get my wife's birth certificate (took 4 months, thx to USPS)

14/02/12: Marriage

21/02/12: I-130 package sent.

24/02/12: I-130 package arrived @ Chicago lockbox

29/02/12: NOA 1 by E-mail

29/02/12: Contacted US accountant for IRS filing.

07/03/12: NOA 2 by E-mail - Your I-130 was approved in 7 days from your NOA1 date

12/03/12: File arrived at NVC

29/03/12: Confirmation of e-mailed DS-3032

30/03/12: Received DS-3032 / I-864 Bill by e-mail

04/04/12: I-864 & DS-230 fee bill paid.

05/04/12: NVC payment portal shows 'paid' status.

13/04/12: Sent out DS-230 & I-864 Package

16/04/12: DS-230 & I864 package received by NVC

21/04/12: Received Checklist for proof of of residency & foreign tax

25/04/12: Sent out reply on checklist

01/05/12: Telephone confirmation of a closed case!

11/05/12: Case complete e-mail and interview date

23/05/12: Medical

05/06/12: Interview!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: France
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Posted

Hi all,

After lots of reading on this forum, we sent in our I-130 to the Chicago lockbox.

Now when preparing the next steps, including the I-864.

Me and my wife have 2 kids together. Both have dual nationality but were born in my home country.

I assume they can just move to the States without administrative hassle, but is that really so?

When crawling trough tons of info, some of that info seems to contradict.

So, do i have to arrange or start up an immigration proces for my 2 kids or can I just put them on a plan when the time comes?

To complete the info, mu wife is an American who has lived her whole life with me in Europe and is also dual.

best regards,

Knockse

You say they have dual citizenship but is one of these 2 US?? If they are USCs then they should have a US passport, and provided your wife went through the process of declaring their birth abroad as US citizens, then there's no problem. They already are American citizens.

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USCIS STAGE: 16 days No expedite request but USC residing abroad
NVC STAGE: 19 days from case # to case complete
03/27/12: interview at Paris embassy - APPROVED
04/12/12: POE San Diego

ROC
01/15/14: sent I-751 application

05/14/14: received card production notification by e-mail, approval date 05/13

Naturalization

02/01/24: N-400 submitted online; Biometrics reuse notice received immediately online; "case being actively reviewed" after a couple hours

02/09/24: received NOA1 by mail

02/10/24: received biometrics reuse notice by mail

04/08/24: interview scheduled for 05/14. Received "We have taken an action in your case" email.

05/14/24: approved at interview, same-day oath ceremony in San Francisco 🥳 🇺🇸

 

Passport

06/10/24: application submitted at post office for passport book and card, paid for expedited processing and shipping

06/24/24: received email notification that passport was approved, then shipped with tracking number

06/25/24: passport received

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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You say they have dual citizenship but is one of these 2 US?? If they are USCs then they should have a US passport, and provided your wife went through the process of declaring their birth abroad as US citizens, then there's no problem. They already are American citizens.

:thumbs:

If your wife truly did life her whole life in your country, then the kids are unlikely to have US citizenship, unless she went back to the USA to give birth.

Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Japan
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Posted

:thumbs:

If your wife truly did life her whole life in your country, then the kids are unlikely to have US citizenship, unless she went back to the USA to give birth.

Yep.

You need 5-10 years of physical presence in America with 2-5 years after the age of 14 (depends on your birth year) to pass citizenship to your child when born overseas with a non-citizen spouse.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Posted

Can you please explain a little more about your wife's and your children's citizenship?

Good luck

USCIS
August 12, 2008 - petition sent
August 16, 2008 - NOA-1
February 10, 2009 - NOA-2
178 DAYS FROM NOA-1


NVC
February 13, 2009 - NVC case number assigned
March 12, 2009 - Case Complete
25 DAY TRIP THROUGH NVC


Medical
May 4, 2009


Interview
May, 26, 2009


POE - June 20, 2009 Toronto - Atlanta, GA

Removal of Conditions
Filed - April 14, 2011
Biometrics - June 2, 2011 (early)
Approval - November 9, 2011
209 DAY TRIP TO REMOVE CONDITIONS

Citizenship

April 29, 2013 - NOA1 for petition received

September 10, 2013 Interview - decision could not be made.

April 15, 2014 APPROVED. Wait for oath ceremony

Waited...

September 29, 2015 - sent letter to senator.

October 16, 2015 - US Citizen

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Belgium
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Can you please explain a little more about your wife's and your children's citizenship?

Good luck

Sure,

My wife is American by birth out of European parents. She returned to live in the States for 2 years, from te age of 6 till 8.

After our first born arrived we went for dual citizenship at our local ambassy. They were granted both the dual and received their US passport after presenting evidence of those 2 years.

As they have their passports I assume they just 'move back' to the States, without having to go through administrative threadmill.

09/2011: Trying to get my wife's birth certificate (took 4 months, thx to USPS)

14/02/12: Marriage

21/02/12: I-130 package sent.

24/02/12: I-130 package arrived @ Chicago lockbox

29/02/12: NOA 1 by E-mail

29/02/12: Contacted US accountant for IRS filing.

07/03/12: NOA 2 by E-mail - Your I-130 was approved in 7 days from your NOA1 date

12/03/12: File arrived at NVC

29/03/12: Confirmation of e-mailed DS-3032

30/03/12: Received DS-3032 / I-864 Bill by e-mail

04/04/12: I-864 & DS-230 fee bill paid.

05/04/12: NVC payment portal shows 'paid' status.

13/04/12: Sent out DS-230 & I-864 Package

16/04/12: DS-230 & I864 package received by NVC

21/04/12: Received Checklist for proof of of residency & foreign tax

25/04/12: Sent out reply on checklist

01/05/12: Telephone confirmation of a closed case!

11/05/12: Case complete e-mail and interview date

23/05/12: Medical

05/06/12: Interview!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Australia
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Sure,

My wife is American by birth out of European parents. She returned to live in the States for 2 years, from te age of 6 till 8.

After our first born arrived we went for dual citizenship at our local ambassy. They were granted both the dual and received their US passport after presenting evidence of those 2 years.

As they have their passports I assume they just 'move back' to the States, without having to go through administrative threadmill.

You assume correctly that if they have US passport they are able to just move to the states.

I am curious though. So you wife was born in the US and only lived there for 2 years total? Or has she lived in the states for longer? Based on your above post she doesn't appear to have enough legal presence to pass on citizenship to the kids but she HAS passed it on... so there must be something I'm missing.

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Belgium
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Posted

You assume correctly that if they have US passport they are able to just move to the states.

I am curious though. So you wife was born in the US and only lived there for 2 years total? Or has she lived in the states for longer? Based on your above post she doesn't appear to have enough legal presence to pass on citizenship to the kids but she HAS passed it on... so there must be something I'm missing.

That's why I'm curious also ;)

You're not missing anything... all 3 of them have a valid US passport.

09/2011: Trying to get my wife's birth certificate (took 4 months, thx to USPS)

14/02/12: Marriage

21/02/12: I-130 package sent.

24/02/12: I-130 package arrived @ Chicago lockbox

29/02/12: NOA 1 by E-mail

29/02/12: Contacted US accountant for IRS filing.

07/03/12: NOA 2 by E-mail - Your I-130 was approved in 7 days from your NOA1 date

12/03/12: File arrived at NVC

29/03/12: Confirmation of e-mailed DS-3032

30/03/12: Received DS-3032 / I-864 Bill by e-mail

04/04/12: I-864 & DS-230 fee bill paid.

05/04/12: NVC payment portal shows 'paid' status.

13/04/12: Sent out DS-230 & I-864 Package

16/04/12: DS-230 & I864 package received by NVC

21/04/12: Received Checklist for proof of of residency & foreign tax

25/04/12: Sent out reply on checklist

01/05/12: Telephone confirmation of a closed case!

11/05/12: Case complete e-mail and interview date

23/05/12: Medical

05/06/12: Interview!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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Maybe one of the CO's missed something, thought she'd been there longer. Anyways they have passports so they are free to move to the US whenever they (well, you!) want.

Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Russia
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Maybe one of the CO's missed something, thought she'd been there longer. Anyways they have passports so they are free to move to the US whenever they (well, you!) want.

Well, not quite. Since they are also Belgians (assuming based on the flag), they have to follow all their rules for allowing citizen minors out of the country.

Filed: Other Country: China
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Well, not quite. Since they are also Belgians (assuming based on the flag), they have to follow all their rules for allowing citizen minors out of the country.

Generally the rules are covered by traveling in the company of both parents but it's worth checking on.

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Filed: Other Timeline
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Usually the U.S. Department of State doesn't make mistakes. Everybody does, but they don't.

In order to transfer U.S. citizenship from parent to child, they absolutely require proof of the parent's residency in the U.S. which needs to be at least 7 years, of which 2 have to be after the age of 14 (This used to be 10/5.). If the parent cannot meet these requirements, residency of a grandparent can be used. So my guess is that this is the case here, as it is unthinkable and unheard of that they mistakenly issued U.S. passports for the kids.

In any case, that's water under the bridge now; being U.S. citizens the children can enter the U.S. freely, albeit with a U.S. passport.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Belgium
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I've checked the old website from the embassy with http://web.archive.org and none of the actual requirements you guys mentioned above, were needed a that time.

I remember we did had to present evidence of physical presence in the States of my wife, but the 2 years were aparantly suficient.

So, I remain confident there will no need to fill in some extra immigration forms, when reading the posts above :)

09/2011: Trying to get my wife's birth certificate (took 4 months, thx to USPS)

14/02/12: Marriage

21/02/12: I-130 package sent.

24/02/12: I-130 package arrived @ Chicago lockbox

29/02/12: NOA 1 by E-mail

29/02/12: Contacted US accountant for IRS filing.

07/03/12: NOA 2 by E-mail - Your I-130 was approved in 7 days from your NOA1 date

12/03/12: File arrived at NVC

29/03/12: Confirmation of e-mailed DS-3032

30/03/12: Received DS-3032 / I-864 Bill by e-mail

04/04/12: I-864 & DS-230 fee bill paid.

05/04/12: NVC payment portal shows 'paid' status.

13/04/12: Sent out DS-230 & I-864 Package

16/04/12: DS-230 & I864 package received by NVC

21/04/12: Received Checklist for proof of of residency & foreign tax

25/04/12: Sent out reply on checklist

01/05/12: Telephone confirmation of a closed case!

11/05/12: Case complete e-mail and interview date

23/05/12: Medical

05/06/12: Interview!

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