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I agree with you there - though I'm more disgusted with Tony Blair than I am with Bush, as Blair insisted on staying in the job while the best of his cabinet resigned around him.

I'm disgusted with Blair because there were so many opportunities where he could have stepped up and said "enough is enough." But he continued to stay in lock-step with Bush, even after it had become clear that he'd been duped. (and quite frankly, I'm only giving him the benefit of the doubt that he'd been duped, because I honestly don't believe British intelligence were that stupid.) It's really a shame because I think Blair could have made a huge difference in how things turned out. He certainly could have kept Britain and Europe's hands a lot cleaner.

Well they weren't stupid - the Downing St. Memo is quite clear on that.

A lot was expected from Blair, certainly given the high idealism with which he went into the job after years of Tory misrule, only for him to end up as corrupt as the rest. My gut reaction is that Obama will turn out much the same, though on the basis of the campaigns - he was miles better than the opposition.

Yeah I wouldn't condemn intelligence gathering on either side of the pond on those issues.

I think its pretty clear that Bush et al used the available intelligence as a menu to choose the best justification for a pre-determined war.

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I think so, too.

Don't just open your mouth and prove yourself a fool....put it in writing.

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If Bush is as evil as some people like pretending, he would have had the man "accidentally" shot outside or something. You think someone like Saddam would just have joked and waved off his guards like it was no big deal? Puh-lease. :rolleyes:

Of course, if the defense of the man is "This proves he isn't as bad as Saddam Hussein".... what's the phrase? Damning with faint praise?

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Wonder if there will be new laws here on when you can wear shoes.

You already have to take them off at the airport, maybe now we'll have to check them in, or put them in a 1 gallon plastic bag.

That's our typical response to threats, right?

That said, fear not...I believe we're still only at threat level orange...continue to be afraid as usual.

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The Iraq War was the single most vile act of criminality committed by the Bush administration.

If he deserves to be hit by a shoe for anything, this was it.

AGREE.. :thumbs:

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I asked my dog what he thought about all this "Iraqi reporter throws shoes at Bush, calls him dog", he said, that should be fun for Bush to go fetch, and calling him a dog was a supreme compliment, but an insult to real dogs.

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I asked my dog what he thought about all this "Iraqi reporter throws shoes at Bush, calls him dog", he said, that should be fun for Bush to go fetch, and calling him a dog was a supreme compliment, but an insult to real dogs.

I've kept my dog away from the TV, radio, and newspapers. If he hears that someone compared Bush to a dog, he's gonna be piiiiiisssssed.

And so I confess I did not read this thread, although I saw the video in discussion yesterday.

Was impressed with W's supreme ducking abilities.

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No offense meant to Olivia, but that part of the coverage made me laugh. Crazy orientalist media. Oooh, the mystical Arabs, where throwing shoes at people is an insult. Fortunately the media was there to explain this strange incident to Americans, who otherwise might have thought it was a sign of respect! :jest::rolleyes:

:lol:

That's the least that little #### kicker deserves.

I hope the guy got his shoes back

Sorry got sent back to you.

Sad to say most likey not big enough to keep your

one sided ####### to yourself. Why dont you jerks spew

your non-sense on some yahoo group. We dont need

your #######.

huh?

Clearly we all know I don't like Bush, but I thought the way he handled it was pretty great.

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No offense meant to Olivia, but that part of the coverage made me laugh. Crazy orientalist media. Oooh, the mystical Arabs, where throwing shoes at people is an insult. Fortunately the media was there to explain this strange incident to Americans, who otherwise might have thought it was a sign of respect! :jest:

:rolleyes:

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I consider it Iraq threw a shoe at America and I'm personally insulted. At least that would be the interpretation by an Arab who understands the insult from the culture.

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So perhaps it will be the Iraqi people throwing roses at Obama after all. He is withdrawing the troops intelligently, or so we are told.

current tense used - right now obama isn't doing a dayum thing like that.

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No offense meant to Olivia, but that part of the coverage made me laugh. Crazy orientalist media. Oooh, the mystical Arabs, where throwing shoes at people is an insult. Fortunately the media was there to explain this strange incident to Americans, who otherwise might have thought it was a sign of respect! :jest:

:rolleyes:

Sign of contempt

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http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleea...9453773379.html

Al Jazeera TV pkg

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleea...9453773379.html

I consider it Iraq threw a shoe at America and I'm personally insulted. At least that would be the interpretation by an Arab who understands the insult from the culture.

Well from what I've been reading it seems that this guy is a Baathist. Its a shame that he wasn't a regular Iraqi citizen. It would have had more significance if he were an Average Joe.

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i'm not outraged by the shoes...

i'm more thinking: where the heck were the secret service guys? by the time the ss guy got on the stage, the journalist had reached down, not once, but twice, to remove his shoes and hurl them at Bush, with pretty good accuracy... that's crazy...

what if it had been something more dangerous like a cue ball, or a bow & arrow, or a poison dart or something ?

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So perhaps it will be the Iraqi people throwing roses at Obama after all. He is withdrawing the troops intelligently, or so we are told.

current tense used - right now obama isn't doing a dayum thing like that.

Is it Jan 20 already?

This is what Obama is doing until then.....

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I also think his "Goodbye" visit to Iraq was beyond ridiculous.

yep

Not right but at same time hilarious in a sick way!

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i'm not outraged by the shoes...

i'm more thinking: where the heck were the secret service guys? by the time the ss guy got on the stage, the journalist had reached down, not once, but twice, to remove his shoes and hurl them at Bush, with pretty good accuracy... that's crazy...

what if it had been something more dangerous like a cue ball, or a bow & arrow, or a poison dart or something ?

I wondered that too...

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