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    T. P. Ho Chi Minh (Saigon), Vietnam is a busy city with a high number of K1 visas being processed by the US Consulate there. This page attempts to aid those who are filing K1 visas that will be processed there.

     

    Since I'm starting this article, it will be based mostly on my experiences in going thru this process. I hope that others will add to this so it will be a benefit to everyone filing a K1 visa that will be processed in HCMC.

     

    Having no idea originally of what to do, I googled K1 visas and found lots of links but most were not that helpful or had out dated material. Thru lots of time searching and finding Visa Journey, I have managed to be successful with my visa process as it is so far. As of February 27, 2008, my fiance passed her interview.


    Here are the steps I followed and ones I discovered on the way. I am not a lawyer and this is not intented to be legal advice, this is only my opinion of what I think should be done and what I did in my case. This is for informational purposes only.
     

    Step One. Fall in love with someone from Vietnam. When you and the one love you decide you want to be together forever, you will find there's a lot you should have done but probably didn't. Don't worry, everyone does that:

         a. Do you want to petition for a K1 (fiance) visa 
            or K3 (spouse) visa. There are other places 
            to help you decide which is right for you. I'm 
            writing for K1 and some but not all will apply to
            K3.
         b. Before you start to fill out any forms, you need 
            to collect evidence. That is what the US Government
            calls proof you have a real relationship. The kinds
            of evidence you need are:
                1. Communications between you, your loved one,
                   your family, their family, your friends,
                   their friends. This will be letters, cards,
                   phone logs, emails, IM chats (text and
                   voice). The purpose is to show the two of
                   you have a relationship that others know
                   and support. Most people only include the 
                   communications between them and their loved
                   one. That is important but the Consulate
                   also looks to the wider support your
                   relationship has. In this case more is 
                   better.
                2. Have you bought presents for your fiance(e)? Do you            
                   now or soon plan to support your fiance(e)? This
                   can also be support for the family or fiance(e)'s 
                   children if any. If you haven't been keeping 
                   records, start doing so now. 
                3. You need to have met your fiance(e) at least once
                   in the last two years. You should have or get
                   proof of your trip(s):
                      a. You should have credit card/bank 
                         statements/cancelled checks/cash 
                         receipts/reward points that show the dates
                         and amount paid for your trips. Also you need
                         to have your boarding passes and baggage 
                         claim checks. 
                      b. Your passport should have stamped visas 
                         showing the dates of your trip. Also helpful 
                         can be receipts (USPS money order, credit   
                         card, etc) that show purchase of the visa  
                         from the Vietnamese Consulate or Embassy. I 
                         also kept my USPS Express mail receipt and 
                         envelope.
                      c. Where did you stay? If you stayed with your 
                         relatives or your fiance(e)'s family they may 
                         have filed out the household temporary 
                         residency book. Get photocopies of that. 
                         If you stayed in a Hotel they should have 
                         records for your stay they can supply you and    
                         if you paid by credit card then you have 
                         those records too.
                      d. What did you do on your trip to see your 
                         fiance(e) the first time? If you haven't yet 
                         visited then you can save yourself a lot of I 
                         should have that.... If you travel anywhere 
                         by taxi, bus, private car, get whatever  
                         receipt you can to show that. I kept every 
                         local bus ticket but didn't get any for our 
                         trip to Vung Tau Beach. It wasn't a problem 
                         but would have been better if it was 
                         included. Go to the Zoo? Go out to dinner? 
                         Get receipts..
                      e. Pictures. Get pictures that you can match 
                         with receipts whenever possible. Be aware of 
                         what you wear because you don't want all your  
                         pictures taken in the same clothes. If you go 
                         on more than one trip, try to take different 
                         clothes on each trip. (I would recommend as 
                         many trips as possible not just because it's 
                         good for the interview, but also it's fun!)
                         You want pictures of you and your fiance(e) 
                         doing things to together but you should also 
                         include as many family members as possible  
                         doing things together with you and your 
                         fiance(e).
    


    Step Two. Now you may think you have everything you need but you don't. Here's where you think like the USCIS and US Consulate in HCMC. You have to objectively look at your petition. What events or situations could be a problem or red flag? Is there a "red flag" that is definately going to stop your petition or deny your fiance(e) a visa? NO, if you are a spouse beater, criminal, terrorist, or have certain diseases, there are roadblocks that may stop you but the US can allow "reformed" and treatable persons to marry. However the odds of being sucessful are small if you fall into those categories. IF you are in any of these categories, I would suggest you get professional help with a good immigration lawyer and other professionals to help you with your case.

    For the rest of of us, here is a checklist I've complied with what you should watch out for:

         a. FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS. While it seems simple enough, 
            most RFEs and blue slips are caused by this. You forget to 
            list your fiance(s)'s mother maiden name, or forget to 
            include required evidence like a photocopy of a birth certificate. 
            These will get you a RFE (USCIS)or blue slip (Interview).
         b. Don't "fudge" or lie on your forms or statements. Yes, you 
            want to be with your fiance(e) but once the truth is known 
            by the USCIS or Consulate, you may not be able to fix the 
            problems it caused. For Example if you are Vietnamese 
            American and your Fiancee is Vietnamese and you are 
            distant relatives, don't try to hide it. Get the evidence 
            to show how distant you are. Get enough Birth certificates 
            to show how related you are. Write a statement explaining 
            how related you are. The Consulate will be looking for 
            links between you. If they supect you are related they 
            will ask you to show how related you are. It's better to 
            be prepared before hand. Whether you include it in your 
            I-129f as supporting evidence or just have it in hand for 
            the Interview is up to you and how you want to proceed 
            with your case. 
         c. How did you meet? There is one rule about this and it 
            concerns match makers. Otherwise the USCIS and Consulate 
            will look at how you met in context to others who have 
            met in a similar way. Here are a couple of examples:
                1. If you met thru relatives, you will need to have 
                   extra evidence to show why you were introduced this 
                   way. Do you have an Aunt who thought the two of you 
                   are pefect for each other? Or did the Aunt offer 
                   you money to marry? The Consulate will want to 
                   know. They have reason to believe the worst so you 
                   have to prove otherwise. Get notorized statements 
                   from those involved in your introduction. If at a 
                   party are there pictures?
                2. If you met online at a dating site or chat room, 
                   you need to have evidence showing that. Your first 
                   email from the dating site will be helpful but not 
                   a red flag if you don't have it. In my case, we 
                   didn't keep our emails from that time because we 
                   hadn't yet decided we were in love. In my I-129f 
                   statement about how we met, I included a sentence 
                   that we lost our our emails when we deleted our 
                   profiles from the dating site. In the Proof of On 
                   Going Relationship Statement, I included the email 
                   notice about receiving an email from my fiancee 
                   from the dating site's email server as well as our 
                   Yahoo emails about having stopped using the dating 
                   site. At her interview, the CO asked her how we met 
                   but didn't ask any questions about the dating site 
                   or why we used it, etc. I suspect the lack of 
                   questions was because they already knew the answers 
                   and didn't care to quiz my fiancee about them 
                   assumming she knew as well.
         d. When did you meet in person? And just as important what 
            did you do? As mentioned earlier, you need evidence to 
            show exactly when you met what you did when you met. 
            Everyone's case is different so you have to think in terms 
            of context. For example if you are a Native Born US 
            Citizen and your fiance(e) is Vietnamese, you will be 
            treated differently than a Vietnamese Naturalized US 
            Citizen who has a Vietnamese fiance(e). While the ACLU and 
            others debate the right and wrong of these kinds of 
            things, I won't here. The opinion of most people who have 
            gone thru this process is the US Consulate does treat them 
            differently. DO you need to do things to make the 
            Consulate happy? NO. Do what you want to do, just have 
            evidence to show you did it. I don't think going to the 
            Saigon Zoo so you can list that in your evidence is good. 
            Going to the Saigon Zoo because it's a totally different 
            experience than any US zoo? Yes, I have been to Saigon Zoo 
            and it's a great unless you don't like watching the lions 
            and tigers eating small live animals. Just don't go to 
            their cages during feeding time if it bothers you to see 
            that. It's also a nice park to relax in too. I want to go 
            back when we have time as we didn't see everything the 
            time we went.
         e. This is the most important step of the process if you have any possible "issues". It 
            is at this step you can present your case your way, showing the USCIS and later the 
            Consulate why your issues aren't a problem to granting approval at USCIS and a visa 
            at the Consulate. Also you can "fix" any problems before they are problems, here are 
            some examples of what I'm refering to:
                1. If your fiance(e) doesn't speak English, now would be a good time to get your      
                   fiance(e) enrolled in an English School. If there isn't on close to your    
                   fiance(e), there are online/software/CD courses available (Fidelización clientes). Speaking English 
                   isn't a requirement, however it appears that the better your finace(e) speaks 
                   English, the easier the interview will be. 
                2. If your fiancee is pregnant, now is a good time to deal with it. If the baby         
                   will be born before the interview (or when you guess the interview could be),  
                   then you should include in your I-129f evidence to show that you are the 
                   father and that you plan on bringing the baby to the US. File the proper 
                   papers, etc. If the baby will be born after the interview, you should still 
                   include the baby in your I-129f.  
                3. If you have income problems, it may be better to wait (yes, I know that's not 
                   what you want to do.....)if showing a new job at a higher pay will help you 
                   meet the poverty guidelines. Or if waiting to file a tax return or a tax 
                   transcript (preferred by the Consulate) will meet the guidelines.


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    NOTE: The above information does not address the specific requirements for any given case and is not a substitute for the advice of an attorney.





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