NickD

Perhaps a mental exam is desired from dealing with the USCIS for over three years, but that is not required either. Just about all the evidence you supplied for your AOS AND I-751 is required again, plus any updates. Have to know how to read and write basic English, and only have to memorize six of the questions from that 100 question civics test, but I cannot tell you which six.

Over 16 is good, don't need any kind of permission from a biological parent. With your moms certificate of naturalization, birth certificate Wi, and green card. Heck its all in the passport application instructions. You can apply for one right now.
With over 9,000 DOS agents available, can certainly find one close to you. In our small town, we have two of them. Get into google and type in, applying for a US passport.

Probably the same question we all have, did the old INS or the new USCIS keep any records of your immigration status? Wonder why they say to keep a copy of your USC certificate in case you lost it, could be in a fire or a natural storm.
DOS site says this:
"If your passport is lost you will need to first report it as such to the passport office before requesting a new one." Did you try that?
In looking at my wife's old case status, read this:
"During this step, USCIS initiates the background checks of the applicant/petitioner and identifies issues that may need to be addressed either during an interview or by asking the applicant/petitioner to submit additional information or documentation."
If they can do a background check, your name has to be in a computer someplace, if all else fails, would contact your senators office. Did this woman ever register to vote? Is she paying taxes?

No dress code for biometrics, but are taking your photo now for your certificate, so comb your hair or whatever. Nothing more American than bluejeans, so they don't want you wearing those. Wife wore a very expensive business suit, but that was an overkill as she had a big fat woman IO that was wearing a black tent. Feel that worked against my wife. Would think dressing in a conservative fashion would be the best description for your interview.

What can you do with a corrupt government, still have a son stuck down there with two grandsons, extremely dangerous for me to go down with a US passport and now a visa is required.  Wife was able do visit about five years ago, but flew to Bogota first, than to Caracas, but she has a Colombian passport.
 
Now its no longer safe almost as bad as traveling to Germany in 1942 with a Jewish last name.
 
We were able to give her son a US credit card so her son can buy food for our two young grandsons,  US credit cards are like gold down there.  And we just prayer that crooked socialistic government will come to end.
 
Can get 15 million bucks if you capture Maduro and turn him in.  But with no 2nd amendments rights in Venezuela only will have a water gun against AK-47's.

Only thing you do with your kids on the N-400 is list their names, you do this for all of your kids, natural, step, adopted. Your IO should look over that list and tell you which ones automatically become US ctizens when you do. Provided of course you pass the interview. If one of your kids is barely over 18 and not listed as a US citizen, will be told that child would have to apply for the five year.
Can bring your to be naturalized kids with you to the oath ceremony, will be told they are US citizens just like you are, but without any proof, and they will walk out the door with their green cards. Yours will be taken away and given your certificate in exchange.
With that certificate in your hands, then you can apply for certificates for the kids that came here when you did with that N-600, need one for each kid plus a check of $600 for each kid plus the required evidence as listed in that form.
If you recall your AOS, had to have a full set of forms for each kid just you did. If you went through the ROC stage, there you got by with just an extra 80 bucks per kid. Well, citizenship is just like the AOS stage, but a different form, and about 80 bucks cheaper than you.

You can do it via mail, but have to send in your original certificate, sure wouldn't want to risk that, may never see it again. In going in, in person with that form already filled out and signed by the person on it, I could do that for my gang with the original certificate, take a copy of it, the form and that was it.
If you run across a hard head that insists you have to be in that database first, request to speak to the supervisor. They have a copy of your original certificate and your form, that is all they need. What these dingbats don't seem to realize, is you are going there to give them money, a lots of money that according to some congressman, you may never see again. 14.8% of your gross wages to be exact between you and your employer. If that isn't bad enough, you also have to pay income taxes on those FICA taxes.
When you go in there, should treat you like a pot of gold they are going to get a big hunk of, and their wages come out of that money. This makes us the boss, not the other way around.

Ha, my wife never received her ten year card until a month before her USC interview, then they took it back before her oath ceremony. Was a lot of money and work to get that card, just for a couple of months of usage.
Shouldn't they let us amortize the cost of that card and give us back 1-2/120 times our money back?

This was before he was married, how is your petition going?
 
Europe was a mess during WWI, my grandparents hopped on a boat to North America, my wife's grandparents to South American, but both our grandparents lived within 500 mile each other.
 
In this view, in the USA, all of us are immigrants, even the Native Americans were immigrants,  DNA has shown from Asia or Europe, long before Columbus discovered America.

Its my understanding the I-751 was instituted in around 1988 to catch fraud, ha, as a sponsor would want to collect at least a couple of million if this was the case for the risk involved.  But marriages still ended in divorce, spouse could claim abuse or hardships in returning to their home country and still get that card.
 
Can't forget about my stepdaughter, she was not affected by this, was in high school at the time, but she sure needed that green card to enter college, just started doing this at that time.  Was an article in the newspaper about a brother and a sister that were juniors and seniors at that university.  Guess they call them dreamers now, was certainly a debate what to do about this, but never learned what happened to them.
 
We had another situation with my stepdaughter, from the time we applied for that AOS, took over a year before we were called in.  When my wife received her US citizenship, my stepdaughter was 18 years and two weeks old.   If they just called us in 2-3 weeks earlier, she could have received her citizenship at the same time as her mom, but was another two years for her, another 1,350 miles of driving and another large fee for her.
 
With my wife, contacted the governors office, just appointed a new person to check on immigration status, didn't know anything about this subject, spent a week with him teaching him some of the facts.  At first they only wanted to issue her a driver's license until her one year extension notice expired, but with insistence got her a full 8 year license.  And of course, you have to be very very nice.
 
Ha, was with my wife when her 8 year driver's license expired, I slipped her US passport in my pocket, didn't want to renew her license until they saw it.   For voters registration, they didn't want to see it.  Well its all history now, see many here had problems when getting a driver's license in different states when their DVM assumed they were US citizens, sure got into trouble when applying for US citizenship.
 
Was also told, they were US citizens just like they were born here, but this is the USCIS, DOS is entirely different, I traveled with her to her home country, when they looked at her US Passport with her place of birth on it, would not admit her, but finally did, we spent over a week traveling around to renew her Colombian citizenship.  Not like here, had to hire an attorney, sure charged us, then had to apply for a Colombian passport.  The DOS calls this dual naturalization,  its not, its dual citizenship, you cannot get a passport until you are a citizenship.
 
When she visits her mom, needs her Colombian to get in, but when she leaves needs both, because she cannot get a US visa to come here with her Colombian passport, but her US passport works.
 
I called the DOS and politely asked, why can't the city she was naturalized in be her place of birth, replied, they don't know why, always been this way.  Then I had a person to person talk with both my senator and congressman, both told me they don't have any say with the Department of State, strictly under the executive branch, contacted them, no response.
 
So every five years have to make a trip to the Colombian consulate in Chicago, have to do this in person, at least its only 300 miles from us so can do this in a very long day.   Some live over a thousands miles away.  Just saying are journey is not over yet.

Has to be the individual you dealt with at your SS office, every so often can run into a hard head for lack of a better word. You already have an SS card, SS keeping track of your immigration status is relatively new. I took care of both my girls with SS from the very beginning, EAD card, green card, and certificate of citizenship. Did meet one hard head once, a little dip of a guy that couldn't even speak English very well. Good thing his supervisor came by and corrected him so I didn't have to.
Beside that, 14.8% of my income goes to SS and the way these politicians are talking, may never get it back, they are working for us, not we for them. Even with the DHS, thing, still have to bring in your certificate, not only to SS but to the DOS as well. DHS is just another form of BS.
Anyway, after this DHS stuff, took my stepdaughter's certificate in the day after, she signed the form that I changed the date and immigration status on, went in, took a photocopy of the certificate, handed it back to me, kept the form, and that was it. A couple of weeks latter she received a new card in the mail.

You have your expired conditional card and that one year extension letter, effectively extending that expired date for one more year.
Good question to ask, is why do they only make that extension letter only one year, can't even process your I-751 application in that very short time the way these service centers operate.
Once that one year extension letter expires you are no longer able to work or travel, so forced to make an infopass appointment to either get an I-551 stamp in your current valid passport, OR bring in two passport type photos and apply for an I-94.
Depending on the laws of your state, if you applied for your driver's license, it may have expired the same date your conditional card expired, you cannot drive with an expired driver's license. Even with that one year extension letter, may have our experience, and I quote, P what in the hell is this one year extension notice. And if you are working, your employer may say the same thing in a politically correct manner.
When you very politely reply, this is how the USCIS operates, you hear, what in the heck is the USCIS? Admittedly, all of my friends, relatives, and even myself never heard about the USCIS either. So this requires a lot of proof and explanation.
And even furthermore, they will ask, what in the heck is an I-551 stamp in your passport or that I-94? That requires even more explanation.
One key reason why we were prompted to apply for US citizenship practically exactly one year after we applied for the I-751, this everyone understood. Proof for natural born US citizens is a birth certificate.
But we still had to make that infopass appointment for either that I-551 stamp or that I-94, the latter is far more convenient. Just like your green card, you are required to carry that I-94 with you at all times. Well maybe not to your bathroom at home, but as soon as you leave your dwelling.
Yes, this was a very troubling time for practically all of us.

Same thing happened to us, as the USC went in with my wife for her renewal and she was rejected, what in the hell is a one year extension. I was so angry, came home and called our governor, was shifted to our newly appointed immigration officer that didn't know ####### about how the USCIS operates, so spent the next week burning up my fax machine educating him. Then he contacted the head of our DMV, a woman, forgot her name, she called me and apologized and said she called our local DMV and told them to issue my wife's license.
At first they only wanted to issue her license for the duration of her one year extension, said not good enough, it's not our fault that damned USCIS is so slow and we filed our I-751 a full 90 days, the maximum they would let us before her green card expired.
So I went back into our local DMV office with my wife, not a word was said, and they issued her the full eight year license with no restrictions on it.
This system we have may have started out okay, but is crazy when you have cities, townships, counties, states, and the federal government all making different rules and not one of them knows what the other is doing, but they all affect us as individuals because we have to abide by all these rules.
The USCIS is at the federal level and the states have no business interfering with them and I was not afraid to tell our newly appointed immigration officer that simple fact and with no argument, wife is here legally and that is all he should be concerned about.
When I hear a politician say we need local control, not the least bit afraid to tell him to his face, his only interest is keeping his overpaid under worked job. What's really stupid is when you have a school board consisting of ashpoles wanting to ban a book your kid needs to go to college. You get the point?
My wife is a guest of this country and all is new to her, I can't expect her to demand her rights, as the USC, you have to defend your spouses rights and you have to know the law! And you will be dealing with ashpoles, that guy put in charge helped the governor with his campaign just like the president puts jerks in charge of key agencies, the USCIS being no exception with Emilio, took the American board of immigration attorneys to get rid of that jerk that created a huge mess.
One thing I did like about our military, was the first place in my life we were one country, was really stupid in high school, was brainwashed into thinking our greatest enemy was the next high school in the next town about six miles away. If we couldn't beat them at football, had to drive around that town and do damage, I was brought up that way. Same ####### today, have to really defend my home on homecoming night, it's stupid, just plain downright stupid!!!! We should be but one country, dealing with the world now.

Ha, my kid born in the 80's here cost me 600 bucks for everything, his kid, my grandson cost him $16,000.00, not kidding, and this is after our new affordable health care act was passed.
Wife recently came home after visiting her family, got ill and had to see a doctor, cost her two bucks, here would cost her 600 bucks for the same visit and would have had to pay that cash because we didn't meet our new high deductible yet.
Just saying besides what you are trying to do is illegal, just don't expect any bargains here.

Your conditional green card has the date it was issued on.
You should apply for your I-751 90 days before your 2nd anniversary.
If still married, can apply for the N-400 90 days before the 3rd anniversary for US citizenship under the so called marriage privilege.
The entire US citizenship is done at your assigned local field office, they move a lot faster than these two service centers, have no idea what these service centers do, if anything.
We were required to submit all the same evidence we sent in for the I-751 plus the same exact evidence we sent in for the AOS, don't ask me why, how did my wife receive her conditional green card in the first place. Took about ten minutes for her interviewer to review all that evidence, passed the civics and English test. She had her interview about three days after her 3rd year anniversary, but we knew of some that received their interview a few days before their 3rd anniversary, but could not receive their citizenship certificate until after their 3rd anniversary.
My wife's oath ceremony was scheduled for a month later, she finally received her ten year card one week before her oath ceremony, only to give ig back. But we met people at her oath ceremony that never received their ten year card.
Wife also met two friends from her home country whose marriages did not work out, one was abuse, the other, they just didn't get along, but received their ten year cards, because married in good faith, also can claim a hardship to return to your home country. The same holds true for minor children that had no say in this matter, they also can apply for that ten year card. With her friends whose marriages did not work out, they could apply for the five year citizenship, here no evidence is required at all.
So this brings about questions as to exactly what good is this ROC phase for? But was sure a very frustrating experience for practically all of us.

Sounds like more of a AOS interview than an ROC interview, in our state, we could not lie about our previous marriages, both my wife and I were previously married. just once, so wanted to see our divorce papers before they issued a marriage license. Just wanted to see my driver's license as proof of residence of our state.
Wanted to see all this stuff at our AOS interview, not my driver's license, but my birth certificate as proof I was a US citizen, ironically all this stuff again, including my divorce papers, 51 pages at my wife's citizenship interview, how did she manage to get a green card in the first place?
Yes, have to list all of your kids, natural, adopted, step, for us that was eight. For the ROC, proof of our marriage was that we were paying taxes and bills together, had joint accounts, insurance, and joint ownership of legal stuff, like our home, vehicles, and dog. Ha, a good marriage is showing both your names are on a worthless utility bill. They don't care whose name is on that bill, always go against the homes owner for past unpaid bills.
Never asked us if we kissed or slept together. Didn't have anything to do with love.

Admittedly, we answered a question wrong on our N-400 that we caught the day after, some of those questions are brain twisters. We immediately did that one page and sent it right off with a letter explaining we believe we made an error on question so and so on page so and so. Please replace that page with the one enclosed. All was okay after this.

Ha, would always download the latest forms regardless of the forms, also had to invest in Adobe Arcobat Pro, until more recently couldn't even save your forms with that free reader. Also would let you insert those long Spanish names to automatic size to fit the fields, other wise would have to use a separate sheet of paper.
Then having a good 600 DPI laser printer, often made the comment, would be dead without a good computer, can't even do your taxes anymore without a good computer plus have to be on a high speed internet or else you will be cut off.
Another option is to have a good scanner, everything that came in from the USCIS was scanned, plus all the evidence.
Never a good idea to store all this stuff on one computer in Drive C, if you get a virus would lose everything, actually have three computers on a LAN, with all our immigration files in one directory on all the computers and even back them up on a DVD. Use compression, see that directory is already 233 MB long. Sub directories are under the name of the forms.
USCIS tends to "misplace" files, just have to print everything out, think of all the work you would have to go through again if they "misplace" your files.

Just download this form and the instructions and if you have questions, some of the good people here will help you.
http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-751.pdf
Ha, and a big ha at this, when I first read the waivers, started to wonder why the USCIS was even putting good marriages through all this misery.
Mentioned in another post about my wife's friend that was a very nice super sweet and beautiful young woman that married an abusive husband. She like you is here alone and afraid. She did request moving in with us, didn't feel this would be a good idea, since I would spend hours alone with her. But we found a home for her in Milwaukee that takes very good care of women in your situation, even educates and free legal help is available.
She made a life for herself here, and so can you and didn't have very much to go back to.
Shame on you people for being so critical and jumping to conclusions, here to help, not to hurt.
Yes you should send in your I-751 ASAP, that was good advice. Think of my own darling wife if our marriage didn't work out, sold her property, quit her job, and made a great personal sacrifice to come here. Would be an extreme hardship if she had to return.

Just download this form and the instructions and if you have questions, some of the good people here will help you.
http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-751.pdf
Ha, and a big ha at this, when I first read the waivers, started to wonder why the USCIS was even putting good marriages through all this misery.
Mentioned in another post about my wife's friend that was a very nice super sweet and beautiful young woman that married an abusive husband. She like you is here alone and afraid. She did request moving in with us, didn't feel this would be a good idea, since I would spend hours alone with her. But we found a home for her in Milwaukee that takes very good care of women in your situation, even educates and free legal help is available.
She made a life for herself here, and so can you and didn't have very much to go back to.
Shame on you people for being so critical and jumping to conclusions, here to help, not to hurt.
Yes you should send in your I-751 ASAP, that was good advice. Think of my own darling wife if our marriage didn't work out, sold her property, quit her job, and made a great personal sacrifice to come here. Would be an extreme hardship if she had to return.

Just download this form and the instructions and if you have questions, some of the good people here will help you.
http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-751.pdf
Ha, and a big ha at this, when I first read the waivers, started to wonder why the USCIS was even putting good marriages through all this misery.
Mentioned in another post about my wife's friend that was a very nice super sweet and beautiful young woman that married an abusive husband. She like you is here alone and afraid. She did request moving in with us, didn't feel this would be a good idea, since I would spend hours alone with her. But we found a home for her in Milwaukee that takes very good care of women in your situation, even educates and free legal help is available.
She made a life for herself here, and so can you and didn't have very much to go back to.
Shame on you people for being so critical and jumping to conclusions, here to help, not to hurt.
Yes you should send in your I-751 ASAP, that was good advice. Think of my own darling wife if our marriage didn't work out, sold her property, quit her job, and made a great personal sacrifice to come here. Would be an extreme hardship if she had to return.

Just download this form and the instructions and if you have questions, some of the good people here will help you.
http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-751.pdf
Ha, and a big ha at this, when I first read the waivers, started to wonder why the USCIS was even putting good marriages through all this misery.
Mentioned in another post about my wife's friend that was a very nice super sweet and beautiful young woman that married an abusive husband. She like you is here alone and afraid. She did request moving in with us, didn't feel this would be a good idea, since I would spend hours alone with her. But we found a home for her in Milwaukee that takes very good care of women in your situation, even educates and free legal help is available.
She made a life for herself here, and so can you and didn't have very much to go back to.
Shame on you people for being so critical and jumping to conclusions, here to help, not to hurt.
Yes you should send in your I-751 ASAP, that was good advice. Think of my own darling wife if our marriage didn't work out, sold her property, quit her job, and made a great personal sacrifice to come here. Would be an extreme hardship if she had to return.

From the time we submitted our AOS forms to approximately a year later when we finally had our AOS interview, couldn't do much of anything due to the American Patriot Act, not even open a tiny joint bank account, but could claim her as my wife on our very first income tax return. We could only show this joint stuff after she received her conditional green card, so all of our evidence started from that date. But did submit our very first joint tax return, was not required by the IRS to list her SS number. She couldn't even get on until she received her conditional green card.
Since we applied for ROC 90 days before her card expired that was about 21 months of evidence we accumulated over that time period, but since practically over a year went by, USCIS wanted an update for that extra year of evidence, mostly bank accounts and an extra tax return. We also purchased a new vehicle during that time, so could show a joint title.
But after that year went by, she was eligible to apply for US citizenship for the three year marriage privilage, so we submitted the same evidence again we used for the I-751, plus they also wanted just about all the evidence we already submitted during our AOS stage, proof I was a US citizen, freed to marry with yet another 51 pages of my divorce, and our marriage certificate. Could only ask why they wanted all this information again, because how could she get her green card in the first place.
For us a 450 mile round trip to our nearest USCIS office, 3 for biometrics, AOS interview, I-551 stamp, US citizenship interview, oath ceremony. 3150 miles of driving plus all those fees. Listened to that republican debate last night, one of the candidates said our legal system needs a major overhaul, he sure got that right. Plus all those fees.
Then bringing in refugees without even a background check, putting them in government housing, and giving free medical and food. We were sure on the opposite side of the fence for this, had to pay a small fortune for all of that medical out of my own pocket, not covered by our health insurance, times two, wife also had a daughter. For AOS, she was treated as a complete separate entity, kept on giving us separate dates for biometrics, wouldn't let us change so that was an extra 1,350 miles of driving, same for her citizenship.
Then I hear for all those minor children coming here illegally, the government is picking up the tab. None of these huge fees are tax deductible so had to be paid with after the tax dollars, and after that, wasn't very much left.

Sure does, but not at your office, depends who meets you at the door. Also depends on how far you live from your USCIS, may risk taking a very long trip for nothing. Believe the way it works the further away you live from your USCIS office, the ealier your appointment. We were split between both the Milwaukee and St. Paul office, and also with a stepdaughter, always sending us different appointment date for both our girls.
For our I-751, stepdaughter's appointment was scheduled a week later, but took her along anyway, have to be extremely nice, Milwaukee office would take her, but we were put at the end of the line requiring a two hour wait, but that sure was better than taking a second very long trip.
Another time, wife was scheduled for her US citizenship biometrics on a Monday morning at Milwaukee, but this was the only time we could get an infopass appointment at St. Paul, she needed that I-551 stamp in her current foreign passport book to keep herself legal. But we did have the option to show up at Milwaukee the following Wedneday at noon. That office was completely empty so only took two minutes. USCIS stated if you had biometrics within the last 18 months, you don't need another. Was told at the Milwaukee office, you don't believe everything you read.
We also requested that civics test CD and booklet, they had them, but took awhile to find one, we started to listen to that on the way home, but almost put us to sleep. Just saying you never know.

From the time we submitted our AOS forms to approximately a year later when we finally had our AOS interview, couldn't do much of anything due to the American Patriot Act, not even open a tiny joint bank account, but could claim her as my wife on our very first income tax return. We could only show this joint stuff after she received her conditional green card, so all of our evidence started from that date. But did submit our very first joint tax return, was not required by the IRS to list her SS number. She couldn't even get on until she received her conditional green card.
Since we applied for ROC 90 days before her card expired that was about 21 months of evidence we accumulated over that time period, but since practically over a year went by, USCIS wanted an update for that extra year of evidence, mostly bank accounts and an extra tax return. We also purchased a new vehicle during that time, so could show a joint title.
But after that year went by, she was eligible to apply for US citizenship for the three year marriage privilage, so we submitted the same evidence again we used for the I-751, plus they also wanted just about all the evidence we already submitted during our AOS stage, proof I was a US citizen, freed to marry with yet another 51 pages of my divorce, and our marriage certificate. Could only ask why they wanted all this information again, because how could she get her green card in the first place.
For us a 450 mile round trip to our nearest USCIS office, 3 for biometrics, AOS interview, I-551 stamp, US citizenship interview, oath ceremony. 3150 miles of driving plus all those fees. Listened to that republican debate last night, one of the candidates said our legal system needs a major overhaul, he sure got that right. Plus all those fees.
Then bringing in refugees without even a background check, putting them in government housing, and giving free medical and food. We were sure on the opposite side of the fence for this, had to pay a small fortune for all of that medical out of my own pocket, not covered by our health insurance, times two, wife also had a daughter. For AOS, she was treated as a complete separate entity, kept on giving us separate dates for biometrics, wouldn't let us change so that was an extra 1,350 miles of driving, same for her citizenship.
Then I hear for all those minor children coming here illegally, the government is picking up the tab. None of these huge fees are tax deductible so had to be paid with after the tax dollars, and after that, wasn't very much left.