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Applying for an immigrant visa and having it refused does not make somebody ineligible for an F-1 visa. However the reason for the refusal may be an issue. To be refused an immigrant visa, there needs to be a reason. The vast majority of those reasons would apply to most visas (so it's not that applying for / being refused the visa is the issue - it's just something that would apply to both visa classes).

Ok this passport number being blamed is now demonstrably false - because the passport requirement only came in last year’s entry forms for the first time, and those selected using that basis have literally only just been notified this past Saturday. So she could not have both already been selected and claimed passport number in the entry form as a problem back in February. 
More likely what happened: she was selected the previous year and they suspected that once she was in the US on a student visa, she would adjust status. That is a perfectly valid 214b rejection, for intended misuse of a NIV. (And much more relevant to your specific case to begin with, as we had said back early in the thread...)
 
The doctrine of consular non-reviewability means a consular denial cannot be appealed, by the way.

Having worked in the F1 space I can tell you that you need be ready to submit the F1 now to be there in August assuming the school is going to be open, etc.  A TA isn't just going to show up a week before classes. I;m sure you would be expected to be there as soon as the 30 day window opens.  The school needs to get the DS-2019 done.  In a non COVID19 environment, consulates would have been ready for the F/M/J rush for the start of an academic year by having more slots open for those.  Now no one knows. If the EOs continue and the consulates reman quickly there should be some slots available.
 
I do agree with @SusieQQQ but as of this moment there are a lot of unknowns but getting the DS-2019 doesn't cost you anything.  Then later you can make the decision about paying the SEVIS and Visa fees.   Plus a denial of a NIV visa won't impact the DV.

In this thread for a Dv2021 where the earliest possible visa issuance is 1 October, it’s irrelevant. 

Also note that proclamation specifies EDT.

Ok, 1 minute before 23 June. Unlikely to make a practical difference to anyone.

To be precise 11:59 PM EDT on 04/23 plus 60 days is 11:59 PM EDT on 06/22
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/04/27/2020-09068/suspension-of-entry-of-immigrants-who-present-a-risk-to-the-united-states-labor-market-during-the

For EU? Yes, that’s low. Historically this kind of number would have usually interviewed December/January.

It would be highly unusual to not get a DV visa with a low case number. Not everyone understands the process well.  What is your case number btw? 
There is currently a ban on DV visa issuance. May or may not be extended after 23 June. No need to rush the DS260 till you see where this stands. 

To get approved for an F1 student visa, you must prove that you intend to leave the US after finishing your program.  An F1 student visa is a non-immigrant visa and you must have non-immigrant intent to get one.

You can not use an F1 student visa to wait in the US for your green card.  Wanting a green card is evidence that you have immigrant intent.

You will have to make a choice.  It's not possible to have everything you want.   Delay your education and enroll after you get green card.  Nothing's guarantee so you will be taking your chances with the DV lottery.  

Think of what is more important to you. If you really want a green card - deferring your masters for a year is not such a big price to pay (especially given the concerns over how fall classes will be taught amid covid). (If you have a low number and can do a spring start on your masters that would probably be ideal, but not sure how many schools do a spring start like that).
 
Once you have submitted a DS260, you have signaled immigrant intent.

dont think he will get F1 considering he has DV lottery. You cannot immigrate on an Non immigrant visa 

You can apply for the F1 - but bear in mind there is a chance they may not give it to you as you would effectively be entering the US on a non immigrant visa with intent to stay and adjust status (the process for getting a green card if you are already in the US).  I think you should apply for the F1 as soon as embassies reopen just so you have some certainty. 
 
On the timeline - DV2021 visas will be issued between October 2020 and September 2021. Your case number will determine where in the queue you end up.  Suggest, if you have not already, that you browse the britsimonsays website as there is a lot of information about the DV process, it can be a little confusing to get your head around at first.

Given the school could start (or not) in August and they can’t start issuing DV visas before October 1, F1 would be common sense. You’d then have to watch your DV number and go AOS route. 

It might if your case number was low enough for an October interview, but I don’t think that’s the case.  If the EO is extended beyond August, then I’d say don’t fill it in yet as you won’t know when or if you can actually get a DV green card, and go for the F1. As time goes on after you start studying you can then judge whether or not you’ll be able to get a green card depending on developments later.

If the EO is not extended- can’t say your preference but this is what I’d do - defer the masters admission and get the green card first.
 
Bear in mind also advantages to having a green card while you’re a student. More funding options, ability to work freely rather than the usual F1 restrictions, etc. If you do defer you can also move to the US when you get your green card (you won’t have the one month F1 restriction either) and depending on your financial situation, you can either start working to help fund your college fees, or take a few months you might not get otherwise to travel round the US a bit. 

No, I mean, I absolutely get that part. My only doubt was that NOWHERE I’ve read that you need to wait until they send you the instructions for P3 to send P3 (and then they review it and send P4 with instructions and permission to book interview and medical). That was my doubt; I would not dare (nor I can) book the interview or anything else. Just wanted to know about P3. 
Thats why I was not understanding why that’d jeopardize my visa. I won’t do it; I mean I haven’t sacrifice this much for nothing. But I was just confused. We were talking about different things!! Problem solved 😂😂

As far as I know, but please do confirm with someone that knows 100% sure; but if the mom works, you won’t need to claim her as a dependent. As she is paying for herself. 

I am so happy for all of you guys. One step closer for this whole thing to be over... some might have enjoyed it but I.CANNOT.WAIT for the nightmare to end! 

I am so happy for all of you guys. One step closer for this whole thing to be over... some might have enjoyed it but I.CANNOT.WAIT for the nightmare to end! 

Alright, this has to count as cheating!! 
How on earth did they deliver it so fast? 😂 

NVC confirmed our case is in transit as well; the website still says “at NVC” but the guy over the phone said that it left at some point today.
 
I guess were just not that lucky with the websites, USCIS hasn’t updated our case in theirs yet either lol. 

NVC confirmed our case is in transit as well; the website still says “at NVC” but the guy over the phone said that it left at some point today.
 
I guess were just not that lucky with the websites, USCIS hasn’t updated our case in theirs yet either lol. 

NVC confirmed our case is in transit as well; the website still says “at NVC” but the guy over the phone said that it left at some point today.
 
I guess were just not that lucky with the websites, USCIS hasn’t updated our case in theirs yet either lol. 

That’s the exact same example I give when people ask me if my case is almost done now that the NVC is done with it!! 😂 I always tell them there’s the possibility that the plane that brings my paperwork for Madrid might fall into the ocean. The other day i was telling that to my mom while we were walking down the street and an old lady started yelling at me for saying such things 😂😂

That’s the exact same example I give when people ask me if my case is almost done now that the NVC is done with it!! 😂 I always tell them there’s the possibility that the plane that brings my paperwork for Madrid might fall into the ocean. The other day i was telling that to my mom while we were walking down the street and an old lady started yelling at me for saying such things 😂😂