Please, help me understand all these specifics better

[dosthell 2]

Greetings, I am a 22 year old Ukrainian woman. To get one thing out of the way straight away, I am not entirely sure of U4U program. I've searched the web for sponsors, but for some reason they're either suspicious or there's some weird specifics that pop up on different websites. In a nutshell, I am not entirely sure if U4U might work for me. If I some emergency happens back at home and I'll need to leave US, I won't be able to come back into the States.

Now onto the main topic, I have a boyfriend in the US who's 23 years old. We've been talking daily for 8 years. For obvious reasons we haven't been able to meet. At first we were minors with no money, then Covid-19 hit and now the war escalated over here. And to top it all off we both had struggled financially. I have absolutely no intention of abusing the system to get a US citizenship effortlessly. This is a man I really care about and I intend to start a family with him.

While I don't struggle with English language, I sure as hell struggle understanding some things with immigration laws.

What is the way to go about this, for example:

1. We get married in Ukraine, he goes back into US, fills out forms and he gets me into US.
2. We fill out fiancé visa and all those forms, I go there, we get married and so on.

   OR I get over my fears of U4U, go into USA and get married to him while there.

    

   I'd also like to know how important it is to be able to prove your romantic relationship in the last 2 year in the second case (flight tickets, pictures, love letters and whatnot). Considering our circumstances mentioned above, it would be quite a challenge.

    

    

[JeanneAdil 6,201]

u r required to meet no matter which visa u choose

i prefer spouse as there are so many advantages but not familiar with possibilities to do this at present time in Ukraine

 

his airline boarding passes would show he came to meet u

photos of u together prove u did

 

Go for the guy and marriage if possible and we will pray for u

 

don't be afraid of U4U but understand the US is only saying that at present time it is not a permanent move

 

Generally, Ukrainian citizens and their immediate family members granted travel authorization under Uniting for Ukraine will be paroled into the United States for up to two years.Sep 27, 2022

[Lynxyonok 316]

He needs to be able to meet income or asset guidelines whichever way you both go. That's not something that can be bypassed.

[Boiler 43,437]

He can sponsor you for U4U and then marry and adjust

[TBoneTX 43,058]

Thread is moved from the K-1 Case Progress subforum to the Russia/Ukraine/Belarus regional forum, where this topic is heavily discussed.

[dosthell 2]

12 hours ago, JeanneAdil said:

u r required to meet no matter which visa u choose

i prefer spouse as there are so many advantages but not familiar with possibilities to do this at present time in Ukraine

 

his airline boarding passes would show he came to meet u

photos of u together prove u did

 

Go for the guy and marriage if possible and we will pray for u

 

don't be afraid of U4U but understand the US is only saying that at present time it is not a permanent move

 

Generally, Ukrainian citizens and their immediate family members granted travel authorization under Uniting for Ukraine will be paroled into the United States for up to two years.Sep 27, 2022

Oh yeah I understand the part about it being not a permanent move. That's why I was thinking of marrying him within those two years if I go to US by U4U.
I'm kind of hesitant of K1 since it said that you must have been seeing each other last 2 years in person. Unfortunately enough, last two years had been the toughest for us financially. And till looking what we really want to do in life and stuff. Luckily for him, he found himself sooner then I found myself.

[dosthell 2]

12 hours ago, Lynxyonok said:

He needs to be able to meet income or asset guidelines whichever way you both go. That's not something that can be bypassed.

Is there any way to find out the income minimum he needs to have? Or is it different depending on each case or something. I've seen it mentioned a lot but not in the greatest of detail

[JeanneAdil 6,201]

5 hours ago, dosthell said:

Oh yeah I understand the part about it being not a permanent move. That's why I was thinking of marrying him within those two years if I go to US by U4U.
I'm kind of hesitant of K1 since it said that you must have been seeing each other last 2 years in person. Unfortunately enough, last two years had been the toughest for us financially. And till looking what we really want to do in life and stuff. Luckily for him, he found himself sooner then I found myself.

if u marry while here on U4U , u can file to adjust status and stay 

best to u

[Boiler 43,437]

I 134 and I 864 both list the aounts involved.

[slavaskii 885]

Paging @Supernatural who I think went through nearly an identical situation, albeit with far less time knowing his significant other in Ukraine. I believe the conclusion was that you could file the I-485 (Adjustment of Status) after coming on U4U and marrying. I'm not sure, but I think he was pursuing a K-1 at the time the war started. The following is the thread:

 

 

Best of luck to you, stay safe wherever you are. 

[Lynxyonok 316]

8 hours ago, dosthell said:

Is there any way to find out the income minimum he needs to have? Or is it different depending on each case or something. I've seen it mentioned a lot but not in the greatest of detail

I tried pulling up I-134 forms as advised by Boiler but couldn't find anything. Finally, a boundless link showed $22,887.

 

Essentially, requirements are very low by US standards as almost anyone with a full-time job should be able to have that much.

 

It all comes to the definition of financial struggle. If he has his own place he can afford, he may make enough. Even if he can't afford Starbucks daily.

[Boiler 43,437]

https://www.uscis.gov/i-134

 

Top hit, 5 seconds.

[dosthell 2]

23 hours ago, Boiler said:

https://www.uscis.gov/i-134

 

Top hit, 5 seconds.

As I've looked around this forum some more, I've found a whole post dedicated to i-130. And one thing that got me scared is that there's some weird scenarios of where your applications might be seen as fraudulent.
For example, if I do come into USA, marry my man and then we file a i-130 with everything else, can we be rejected? The basis for rejection being that I used humanitarian parole for marriage+immigration?
I don't know maybe I'm overthinking it? Reading many articles really has clouded the hell out of my mind.

My boyfriend and I want to be as prepared for it as possible, because we really really want to live together. And if somehow our forms would get rejected in the worst, it would mean that I wouldn't be able to go into US.

[dosthell 2]

On 11/6/2022 at 5:02 PM, slavaskii said:

Paging @Supernatural who I think went through nearly an identical situation, albeit with far less time knowing his significant other in Ukraine. I believe the conclusion was that you could file the I-485 (Adjustment of Status) after coming on U4U and marrying. I'm not sure, but I think he was pursuing a K-1 at the time the war started. The following is the thread:

 

 

Best of luck to you, stay safe wherever you are. 

Thank you very much, that post was quite insightful! Much appreciated.

[Lynxyonok 316]

6 hours ago, dosthell said:

As I've looked around this forum some more, I've found a whole post dedicated to i-130. And one thing that got me scared is that there's some weird scenarios of where your applications might be seen as fraudulent.
For example, if I do come into USA, marry my man and then we file a i-130 with everything else, can we be rejected? The basis for rejection being that I used humanitarian parole for marriage+immigration?
I don't know maybe I'm overthinking it? Reading many articles really has clouded the hell out of my mind.

My boyfriend and I want to be as prepared for it as possible, because we really really want to live together. And if somehow our forms would get rejected in the worst, it would mean that I wouldn't be able to go into US.

 

Yes, there's always a chance of rejection. Marriage visas see a lot of fraud, and USCIS and like officers are very keen.

 

That said.

 

I am going to assume that your mutual feelings are genuine, that it is not a quest for the blue passport, and that the two of you want to be with each other no matter what.

 

Then who cares if you get rejected.

 

Oh, don't get me wrong. A rejection sucks. And no one in the world starts out waiting to be rejected, save for a few very unique individuals.

 

So, here goes.

 

1. Read all forms, rules, and instructions. Read the heck out of this website. Out of all other sites. Learn from other people's experiences.

2. Be genuine. For the process is too long for any mask to stay on one's face.

3. Be prepared to up the stakes. It is an option to go to another country and live there together as a couple, preparing to come back to the States.

 

Sigh. The last sentence that you had used does scare me though. Is it him you love or the US?

 

Don't answer. I will assume that it's him. So, charge ahead. And prevail you will.