House Democrats push forward with $25B Post Office bill, GOP dismisses rare Saturday vote as a 'joke

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

This kind of nonsense is why I cant support any democrat for office. Then when I remember the whole embarrassing Judge Kavanaugh spectacle, which was a joke. The 3 year Russian witch hunt that was a total farce,  The fake impeachment 3 ring circus because Trump asked them to investigate Biden, who bragged about using his office to do what they accused Trump of.

The fact Biden has been in office for 47 years and accomplished zero besides nepotism and wealth.

 

There are appox 150 million registered voters in the US. The USPS handles well over 400 million pieces of mail daily. Yet a percentage of people voting by mail is going to break the post office.

 

Its just absurd

 

 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-democrats-push-forward-with-25b-post-office-bill-gop-dismisses-as-a-joke

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

 

A little math problem for today.

The post office delivers 472 million peices of mail every day. 

 There are 150 million registered voters in America. 

If 70 million voted by mail.( which is a stretch) that would be 70 million votes.  

If those votes occurred over 10 days that would be approx  7 million votes per day.

That is an increase of about 1.48 % daily for 10 days. That is well within normal production variations and way less than the Christmas volume.

Wake up people.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

Yeah except Trump is trying to suppress/disenfranchise votes.

 

Just look at this:

 

Trump is now sending his goons to do graffiti and tag on mailboxes so minorities will be too afraid to vote. 100% proof of voter disenfranchisement! Impeach!

[TBoneTX 43,069]

The solution:  go postal.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

6 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

 

A little math problem for today.

The post office delivers 472 million peices of mail every day. 

 There are 150 million registered voters in America. 

If 70 million voted by mail.( which is a stretch) that would be 70 million votes.  

If those votes occurred over 10 days that would be approx  7 million votes per day.

That is an increase of about 1.48 % daily for 10 days. That is well within normal production variations and way less than the Christmas volume.

Wake up people.

So about the same rate as WuFlu, for which we crippled our nation in an election year?  Sounds about par for the course.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

5 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

The solution:  go postal.

I say defund the post office. Do we really still need it

[Neonred 3,446]

Can I FedEx my vote?  

[Steeleballz 7,550]

5 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I say defund the post office. Do we really still need it

 

    The USPS is self funded. Their operating budget comes from the sales of stamps and services. 

 

    The issue is how to address shortfalls.

[luckytxn 2,263]

7 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I say defund the post office. Do we really still need it

Should be sold off as a private company and ran like one.

[yuna628 9,530]

7 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I say defund the post office. Do we really still need it

I do indeed believe we still need it, and it is in the Constitution for a reason. I'd consider it just as another piece of critical infrastructure in this country that is in desperate need of repair and all people want to do is kick the can down the road. USPS and even the USPIS provide very important services every day for things that we rarely tend to think about, but things that UPS/Fedex/DHL could never provide, nor have they ever tried to. There are many ideas we could try to make the USPS more efficient and cut costs, if only those in charge would have the courage to try it. Most of the financial problem comes from needing to pay out huge amounts of benefits instead of letting retirees move into Medicare like everyone else. They are also bound by several archaic regulations that prevent them from investing retirement funds in a manner most other businesses would do. A whopping 80% of their budget goes to employee compensation of an aging workforce. Reducing these employees, hiring new employees at cheaper contracts with varying shifts, and fixing aging infrastructure (such as vehicles and machines) would cut costs dramatically. A lot of people scream about defunding or 'getting rid' of things these days... when what is needed is real meaningful reforms.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

It's not in the constitution that it must be publicly funded. All the constitution in Article I Section 8 says is The Congress shall have Power To establish Post Offices and post Roads. It doesn't say it must, it doesn't say no one else can (and clearly others have, given the market competition to USPS), and it doesn't say Congress can't kill the USPS. Necessary legal documents can be and are still delivered by other means with regularity, helping demonstrate that USPS isn't something necessary to be on taxpayer dime anymore. 

[Dashinka 23,252]

18 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

 

A little math problem for today.

The post office delivers 472 million peices of mail every day. 

 There are 150 million registered voters in America. 

If 70 million voted by mail.( which is a stretch) that would be 70 million votes.  

If those votes occurred over 10 days that would be approx  7 million votes per day.

That is an increase of about 1.48 % daily for 10 days. That is well within normal production variations and way less than the Christmas volume.

Wake up people.

NB is doing math?

 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

Self funded companies dont get taxpayer money

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

While true that the USPS doesn't get tax payer dollars, they DO get a lot of government help, such as low interest loans and a monopoly on delivery services.  They have also been going in the hole for some time now.

 

The Postal Service is especially burdened by 2006 federal legislation, the Postal Enhancement and Accountability Act, that required it to prefund all current and former employee retirement and health benefits in advance as opposed to a "pay as you go" system. The service saw its annual net losses double to $8.8 billion in 2019, and it currently has $160 billion in unfunded liabilities to those pre-paid pension and health plan obligations, according to the Washington Post.

 

Different site and numbers here:

 

https://fortune.com/2015/03/27/us-postal-service/amp/