B2 Visitor Visa for my relatives

[As123 0]

Seriously need some expert opinion here guys. We are just tired of this process.

 

My wife is expecting in Feb 2021 and we really want our close family members to visit for for a small in house baby shower/blessings and all (I hope the COVID travel would permit by that time). Fingers crossed.

My Brother-in-law and Sister-in-law are going to apply visitor visa for first time and I am thinking for my Mom-in-law to also go with them for interview.

 

My mom-in-law go rejected 4 times i guess due to the reason being not showing strong ties to her home country.

Her quick History:

1st time - Both mom-in-law and FIL went for interview

2nd time - Again Both

3rd time - Just MIL (as a widow)

4th time - MIL and his 35 yrs son

( I don't what could be the better ties to home country where you my MIL is living with his son and his wife, his 2 kids, property on her name etc)

 

Questions:

1) Is it a best approach for all of 3 to go together for interview? Seems like MIL got rejected when she went alone.

2) I am also thinking to get referral from state senator. Not sure if it would negatively impact the case for all interviewees?

 

Been 10 tiring years for my mom-in-law trying to get a visitor VISA

[aaron2020 11,651]

Hi,

 

1.  Will not make a difference.  MIL is judged on her circumstances and ability to overcome the legal presumption that all applicants intend to illegally immigrate; not who she applies with.

2.  Nothing a state senator can do to help your MIL overcome the presumption that all immigrants intend to illegally immigrate.

Sorry.

[Crazy Cat 39,226]

18 minutes ago, As123 said:

Seriously need some expert opinion here guys. We are just tired of this process.

 

My wife is expecting in Feb 2021 and we really want our close family members to visit for for a small in house baby shower/blessings and all (I hope the COVID travel would permit by that time). Fingers crossed.

My Brother-in-law and Sister-in-law are going to apply visitor visa for first time and I am thinking for my Mom-in-law to also go with them for interview.

 

My mom-in-law go rejected 4 times i guess due to the reason being not showing strong ties to her home country.

Her quick History:

1st time - Both mom-in-law and FIL went for interview

2nd time - Again Both

3rd time - Just MIL (as a widow)

4th time - MIL and his 35 yrs son

( I don't what could be the better ties to home country where you my MIL is living with his son and his wife, his 2 kids, property on her name etc)

 

Questions:

1) Is it a best approach for all of 3 to go together for interview? Seems like MIL got rejected when she went alone.

2) I am also thinking to get referral from state senator. Not sure if it would negatively impact the case for all interviewees?

 

Been 10 tiring years for my mom-in-law trying to get a visitor VISA

Sadly, there is nothing you or a Senator can do to enhance the chances of her success.  It seems she has no strong ties to her country (which is the biggest factor). The assumption of pre-conceived intent to immigrate is a high hurdle to overcome.  Her previous denials do not help her case.  

Edited August 15, 2020 by Lucky Cat

[Lucky2Lucky 2,526]

21 minutes ago, As123 said:

Seriously need some expert opinion here guys. We are just tired of this process.

 

My wife is expecting in Feb 2021 and we really want our close family members to visit for for a small in house baby shower/blessings and all (I hope the COVID travel would permit by that time). Fingers crossed.

My Brother-in-law and Sister-in-law are going to apply visitor visa for first time and I am thinking for my Mom-in-law to also go with them for interview.

 

My mom-in-law go rejected 4 times i guess due to the reason being not showing strong ties to her home country.

Her quick History:

1st time - Both mom-in-law and FIL went for interview

2nd time - Again Both

3rd time - Just MIL (as a widow)

4th time - MIL and his 35 yrs son

( I don't what could be the better ties to home country where you my MIL is living with his son and his wife, his 2 kids, property on her name etc)

 

Questions:

1) Is it a best approach for all of 3 to go together for interview? Seems like MIL got rejected when she went alone.

2) I am also thinking to get referral from state senator. Not sure if it would negatively impact the case for all interviewees?

 

Been 10 tiring years for my mom-in-law trying to get a visitor VISA

What is her job? 
A senator has no clout on a foreigner wanting to visit the US

[As123 0]

Just now, Luckycuds said:

What is her job? 
A senator has no clout on a foreigner wanting to visit the US

She is a homemaker. I don't know what else can be shown to confirm strong ties except she has all family , friends in India and also properties.

18 minutes ago, aaron2020 said:

Hi,

 

1.  Will not make a difference.  MIL is judged on her circumstances and ability to overcome the legal presumption that all applicants intend to illegally immigrate; not who she applies with.

2.  Nothing a state senator can do to help your MIL overcome the presumption that all immigrants intend to illegally immigrate.

Sorry.

Thanks aaron. 

[JFH 12,189]

Much as the situation is sad, it is by no means unique. There are thousands of immigrants who have to face the fact that their parents or siblings may never be able to visit here and the only way to see them is to travel there or meet in a third country. 
 

Each applicant is individually assessed and either approved or denied based only on their own circumstances. It is possible (and we have seen it here) that a person is approved but their spouse is denied. Applying with or without other people makes no difference to your approval.

 

Can the family members get visas for Canada? Might be nice for all of you to meet there. 

Edited August 15, 2020 by JFH

[As123 0]

9 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

Sadly, there is nothing you or a Senator can do to enhance the chances of her success.  It seems she has no strong ties to her country (which is the biggest factor). The assumption of pre-conceived intent to immigrate is a high hurdle to overcome.  Her previous denials do not help her case.  

Thanks. she is a homemaker and i am not sure what else can be shows as strong ties except a big family, friends and her properties in India. It seems like a big deadlock in Immigartion systems where an elderly person/ or widow person is always seems to be with a immigration intent

[Lucky2Lucky 2,526]

1 minute ago, As123 said:

She is a homemaker. I don't know what else can be shown to confirm strong ties except she has all family , friends in India and also properties.

Thanks aaron. 

Unfortunately being a homemaker isn’t a tie to her country. She can do that in your home in the US. She can’t prove what she doesn’t have.
I understand the frustration That some of us have to go through where our parents basically have 0 chance of visiting the US while others can just basically hop on a plane and travel.

[As123 0]

4 minutes ago, Luckycuds said:

Unfortunately being a homemaker isn’t a tie to her country. She can do that in your home in the US. She can’t prove what she doesn’t have.
I understand the frustration That some of us have to go through where our parents basically have 0 chance of visiting the US while others can just basically hop on a plane and travel.

 Its unfortunate that she her passport is filled with various country stamps like (France, Canada, UAE, UK) but still being getting rejected for US

[SusieQQQ 11,584]

16 minutes ago, As123 said:

Thanks. she is a homemaker and i am not sure what else can be shows as strong ties except a big family, friends and her properties in India. It seems like a big deadlock in Immigartion systems where an elderly person/ or widow person is always seems to be with a immigration intent

Immigrant intent has to be assumed by law. Unfortunately the fact that many parents granted a tourist visa decide to stay and adjust status does not help. Part of the blame lies with those who have abused the immigration system before. Plenty such parents leave family behind, leave property (rent it out in their absence or let family life there), etc. Living with her son in India, might move to living with her child in the US. It seems she has been refused on various occasions at various life stages so not sure what else you can do, maybe they will be lenient this time.

 

14 minutes ago, As123 said:

 Its unfortunate that she her passport is filled with various country stamps like (France, Canada, UAE, UK) but still being getting rejected for US

Unless she has children in those countries, it does not help her case. 
 

 

[NancyNguyen 1,657]

With 4 rejections, chance is slim if there is no change in her situation.

Edited August 15, 2020 by NancyNguyen

[geowrian 22,335]

3 hours ago, As123 said:

It seems like a big deadlock in Immigartion systems where an elderly person/ or widow person is always seems to be with a immigration intent

It's a result of others from her country getting a visa then staying in the US (legally via AOS, or illegally by overstaying). Now they are more restrictive about who they give a visa to so they don't do the same.

[Boiler 43,434]

Sadly this board has many examples of those who have used a visitor visa to immigrate and Parents/India seem a very common combination.

[As123 0]

41 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Sadly this board has many examples of those who have used a visitor visa to immigrate and Parents/India seem a very common combination.

No offense to the system but I always think how anyone can immigrate on a "visitor visa"? I mean they are in system and system/law is watching them. How somebody could have abused it? If anyone have abused it, then it s a flaw in a system. System should be strong enough to curb them instead of making thosands of genuine people suffer due to few.

[SusieQQQ 11,584]

15 minutes ago, As123 said:

No offense to the system but I always think how anyone can immigrate on a "visitor visa"? I mean they are in system and system/law is watching them. How somebody could have abused it? If anyone have abused it, then it s a flaw in a system. System should be strong enough to curb them instead of making thosands of genuine people suffer due to few.

The “flaw” is that the category of immediate relatives of US citizens are allowed to do things normally not allowed (such as adjusting from VWP, adjusting from overstay, adjusting having worked illegally, etc). Essentially this category of immigrant faces almost no consequences for breaking normal immigration laws, as long as they enter with inspection. And once they have been allowed to enter then they can’t be denied on a finding that they had immigrant intent.  So the “solution” becomes to stop them entering, example by denying a visa.
 

 

Edited August 16, 2020 by SusieQQQ