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Okay assisting a friend here and here's the scenario. I'm sure this has been asked here before but having a hard time to find the thread.

 

* Will be qualified to apply under 5 Years on May 2021

* New n400 Filing Fee will start on October 2, 2020

* Processing time of the USCIS office where my friend belong takes 1 year or more

 

 

So if my friend file N400 under 3 Years before October 2, 2020 (taking advantage of the current 700$ something fee) 

 

and assuming n400 interview date will be August or September 2021, is it possible that the interviewer will convert the application from 3 years to 5 years? What normally happens in this case?

 

In my experience, I know how hard to gather evidence  for the 3 years requirements but due to this ridiculous fee increase now it makes any applicant think twice

 

to apply before the new fee deadline(more requirements but less fee) or wait until May 2021 (less requirement but higher fee) 

 

Opinion please? And thank you in advance.

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There’s no “converting” to the 5-year rule even if your application takes 3 years to process (as is almost the case at my local office). 
 

If you apply based on the 3-year rule, you must provide the evidence of the marital

union right up to interview stage. Even if you have been an LPR for 5 years by the time you get your chance to sit on the interview chair. 
 

What’s so difficult about providing evidence of being in marital union for 3 years?  

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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17 minutes ago, tomigaoka said:

Okay assisting a friend here and here's the scenario. I'm sure this has been asked here before but having a hard time to find the thread.

 

* Will be qualified to apply under 5 Years on May 2021

* New n400 Filing Fee will start on October 2, 2020

* Processing time of the USCIS office where my friend belong takes 1 year or more

 

 

So if my friend file N400 under 3 Years before October 2, 2020 (taking advantage of the current 700$ something fee) 

 

and assuming n400 interview date will be August or September 2021, is it possible that the interviewer will convert the application from 3 years to 5 years? What normally happens in this case?

 

In my experience, I know how hard to gather evidence  for the 3 years requirements but due to this ridiculous fee increase now it makes any applicant think twice

 

to apply before the new fee deadline(more requirements but less fee) or wait until May 2021 (less requirement but higher fee) 

 

Opinion please? And thank you in advance.

If the fee increase is a concern, Just file asap........case closed....easy decision.

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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If your friend is eligible under the 3 year rule it will be cheaper to apply now. The volume of evidence is not overwhelming compared with a green card application.

 

I don’t think there’s any “conversion” and each interview seems to be unique with what the IO asks to see - for either the 3 or 5 year rule. 

 

First Entered US with TN Status: 04/13/2012
Engaged: 08/24/2012
Married: 08/10/2013

Adjustment of Status from TN Status to Permanent Resident:
Day 00: AOS mailed by USPS priority Post: 05/19/2014
Day 02: AOS package arrived: 05/21/2014
Day 08: Text/email notice of acceptance: 05/27/2014
Day 11: NOAs for I-130, I-485, I-765, I-131 received, 05/30/2014
Day 14: Biometrics notice received with an appointment of June 17, 2914 at 3pm. 06/02/2014
Day 15: attempted walk-in successful after a very long wait 06/03/2014
Day 38: email notice that I-485 has moved to testing & interview! 06/26/2014
Day 77: EAD/AP - card production 08/06/2014
Day 84: EAD/AP card received 08/13/2014
Day 129: Infopass appointment for an update (very helpful!) 09/24/2014
Day 136: Email received with interview date 10/01/2014
Day 138: Interview notice received! 10/03/2014
Day 170: Green Card Approved on the Spot! 11/04/2014
Day 178: Green Card Received 11/12/2014

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS:

Day 00: ROC Package (Weighing 1.7kg -- 3lbs 13oz) mailed by USPS Priority Post: 09/13/2016

Day 03: ROC Package Received: 09/16/2016

Day 07: Check Cashed: 09/20/2016

Day Too many to count: Received Approval 02/05/2018

NATURALIZATION

Day 00: Submitted file online for N400 -- 07/31/2020

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Just now, Quarknase said:

Your friend will be interviewed on the basis they apply for.

100% correct.    There is no "converting".....🤣

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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